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62019-11-13T00:06:32 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 opened pull request #17458: Refactor OutputGroup effective value calculations and filtering to occur within the struct (master...cleanup-outputgroups) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17458
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122019-11-13T00:12:12 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] theStack opened pull request #17459: Remove redundant NDEBUG preprocessor checks (master...20191112-remove-redundant-ndebug-checks) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17459
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182019-11-13T00:24:32 <jeremyrubin> fyi if you have an opinion on OP_SECURETHEBAG naming convention please chime in on https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/dviy6i/should_op_securethebag_be_renamed/ or the twitter poll. Trying to finalize a name (naming it is difficult as the boring but technically accurate name is OP_CHECKOUTPUTSANDSEQUENCESANDSCRIPTSIGSANDLOCKTIMEANDVERSIONANDNVINVERIFY is a bit too wordy). Hoping to resolve naming concerns so that focus
192019-11-13T00:24:33 <jeremyrubin> can hone in on implementations...
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302019-11-13T01:24:10 <BlueMatt> jnewbery: note that "Add new peer state tracking class to reduce cs_main contention" only vaguely makes sense on its own - the vast majority of the contension is around cs_main for a reason...witout the rest of the patch to make ProcessNewBlock and the like not take cs_main it is a lot of code movement for not very much performance gain.
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552019-11-13T03:31:29 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] theStack opened pull request #17461: test: check custom descedant limit in mempool_packages.py (master...20191112-test-check_custom_descendant_limit_in_mempool-packages) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17461
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642019-11-13T04:21:26 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] RandyMcMillan opened pull request #17462: build: macOS fix Info.plist (master...info-plist) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17462
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852019-11-13T05:50:15 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] luke-jr opened pull request #17463: Bugfix: GUI: Restore SendConfirmationDialog button default to "Yes" (master...gui_custom_sendyes) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17463
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1242019-11-13T09:21:35 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fab9850 MarcoFalke: scripted-diff: Avoid hardcoded libfaketime dir in gitian
1252019-11-13T09:21:36 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 3333629 MarcoFalke: doc: Explain $LIB in LD_PRELOAD in gitian descriptors
1262019-11-13T09:21:36 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master cd6cb97 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #17409: build: Avoid hardcoded libfaketime dir in gitian
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1292019-11-13T09:21:53 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #17409: build: Avoid hardcoded libfaketime dir in gitian (master...1911-gitianArm64) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17409
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1442019-11-13T10:23:14 <JeremyCrookshank> What does everyone use to develop on Bitcoin with? Visual studio code?
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1822019-11-13T13:04:00 <jonatack> JeremyCrookshank: why not, fwiw i know several who use vim and also have seen emacs and atom used
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2252019-11-13T16:46:06 <MarcoFalke> <JeremyCrookshank> What does everyone use to develop on Bitcoin with? Visual studio code?
2262019-11-13T16:46:21 <MarcoFalke> I use vanilla vim, sipa uses mcedit: https://twitter.com/pwuille/status/1192141975358541825, not sure about others
2272019-11-13T16:48:34 <sipa> real programmers use emacs: https://xkcd.com/378/
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2322019-11-13T17:05:57 <jonatack> afaik achow101 uses atom, jnewbery, ariard, MarcoFalke, and (iirc) ryanofsky use vim (atm i use emacs)
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2342019-11-13T17:06:33 <jonatack> clearly they can all do the job :)
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2512019-11-13T17:51:01 <instagibbs> i see im too late for the minecraft joke
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2572019-11-13T18:07:15 <luke-jr> JeremyCrookshank: I use Kate
2582019-11-13T18:07:35 <JeremyCrookshank> Not heard of that one
2592019-11-13T18:08:18 <elichai2> I use CLion and i'm not ashamed :P
2602019-11-13T18:08:30 <luke-jr> JeremyCrookshank: KDE's Advanced Text Editor
2612019-11-13T18:09:08 <luke-jr> https://kate-editor.org/
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2642019-11-13T18:13:06 <JeremyCrookshank> Also not heard of clion
2652019-11-13T18:13:55 <JeremyCrookshank> I suppose nowadays most of these editors are the same :P
2662019-11-13T18:14:28 <sipa> nah, they're all very different in appearance ans features
2672019-11-13T18:14:52 <sipa> but it depends way more on your own way of working
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2692019-11-13T18:15:19 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] dongcarl opened pull request #17466: depends: qt: Fix C{,XX} pickup (master...2019-11-qt-CC-CXX-pickup) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17466
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2722019-11-13T18:16:22 <JeremyCrookshank> elichai2 clion looks decent what's the stigma?
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2802019-11-13T18:27:16 <sipa> jonasschnelli: real_or_random and i jad some thoughts on simplifying future upgrades in the v2 protocol, ping me when you have some time
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2822019-11-13T18:28:57 <elichai2> JeremyCrookshank: the stigma is that real devs use vim/emacs :)
2832019-11-13T18:29:40 <sipa> real devs use butterflies
2842019-11-13T18:29:51 <sipa> who cares
2852019-11-13T18:34:07 <midnight> µEmacs overlords
2862019-11-13T18:36:33 <luke-jr> elichai2: Kate does have a VI Mode
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2892019-11-13T18:49:37 <MarcoFalke> clion has a vi mode, but it feels wrong to vanilla vim
2902019-11-13T18:50:13 <luke-jr> well, vim isn't vi :P
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2992019-11-13T19:07:08 <jamesob> anyone ever apply lock annotations to a lambda? is possible?
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3012019-11-13T19:07:26 <MarcoFalke> jamesob: no not possible
3022019-11-13T19:07:30 <jamesob> dammit
3032019-11-13T19:07:37 <MarcoFalke> You'd have to use AssertLockHeld
3042019-11-13T19:07:56 <MarcoFalke> jamesob: It is not possible because you can pass the lambda into a different translation unit
3052019-11-13T19:08:01 <MarcoFalke> I don't think clang can handle that
3062019-11-13T19:08:07 <JeremyCrookshank> why you want to
3072019-11-13T19:08:29 <MarcoFalke> JeremyCrookshank: Anywhere a lambda is used, you might want to add locking annotations
3082019-11-13T19:08:30 <jamesob> MarcoFalke: but AssertLockHeld won't make clang lock analysis happy, eh?
3092019-11-13T19:08:49 <MarcoFalke> For the same reason that you want to use locking annotations normally (in non lambdas)
3102019-11-13T19:08:54 <MarcoFalke> jamesob: I think it does
3112019-11-13T19:09:29 <MarcoFalke> jamesob: If not, you can use LockAssertion
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3132019-11-13T19:11:17 <jamesob> ah right on, LockAssertion looks like it'll do it. thanks.
3142019-11-13T19:11:38 <sipa> according to this, it's possible: https://stackoverflow.com/a/40483407/8342274
3152019-11-13T19:13:39 <jamesob> argh, capturing a ::cs_main reference apparently isn't possible due to its storage duration
3162019-11-13T19:14:42 <jamesob> I'll just use a private method instead of a lambda
3172019-11-13T19:17:31 <luke-jr> MarcoFalke: but lock annotations are part of the type, no?
3182019-11-13T19:18:16 <jonasschnelli> sipa: Great. Happy to hear it.
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3212019-11-13T19:22:45 <MarcoFalke> sipa: It is possible to put the annotation in, but I don't think the compiler can evaluate the annotation when the lambda is passes as a std::function into a different function in a different translation unit
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3232019-11-13T19:23:11 <sipa> MarcoFalke: in that case, sure
3242019-11-13T19:23:22 <sipa> but usually lambdas are passed as a templated type
3252019-11-13T19:23:35 <sipa> which doesn't require collapsing to an std::function type
3262019-11-13T19:23:36 <MarcoFalke> There might be discussion about that in the commit in clang that added the possibility to annotate lambdas
3272019-11-13T19:24:01 <sipa> actually, perhaps clang supports having locking annotations on std::function types too; not sure
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3292019-11-13T19:25:48 <MarcoFalke> sipa: Sure if it is templated then the Mutex is available in the translation unit, so it might be possible. However when it is a std::function, the header that defines the Mutex might not be included, so I dont' think clang can do its magic
3302019-11-13T19:27:13 <MarcoFalke> [14:13] <jamesob> argh, capturing a ::cs_main reference apparently isn't possible due to its storage duration
3312019-11-13T19:27:22 <MarcoFalke> hmm, are you sure? I think I did that recently
3322019-11-13T19:27:29 <MarcoFalke> maybe I didnt' compile with clang, though?
3332019-11-13T19:27:41 <jamesob> yeah, I got a clang warning
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3372019-11-13T19:43:13 <jonasschnelli> <sipa> jonasschnelli: real_or_random and i jad some thoughts on simplifying future upgrades in the v2 protocol, ping me when you have some time
3382019-11-13T19:43:19 <jonasschnelli> Do you have time to explain it further?
3392019-11-13T19:43:46 <sipa> jonasschnelli: probably should do it when real_or_random is available too
3402019-11-13T19:44:14 <jonasschnelli> Okay. Let see if we find a overlapping timezone window. :)
3412019-11-13T19:46:02 <MarcoFalke> jamesob: That compiled for me btw: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/fa19ddc2bf8ee8f1ce621611a90f8b9e380b1517
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3672019-11-13T20:27:33 <jamesob> MarcoFalke: hm weird, wonder what the difference was with my code. thanks.
3682019-11-13T20:27:46 <MarcoFalke> How did you capture?
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3732019-11-13T20:43:23 <jamesob> tried capture and no capture - clang doesn't like the attempted capture-by-reference ("'cs_main' cannot be captured because it does not have automatic storage duration [clang-diagnostic-error]"). then when I write `LockAssertion(::cs_main)` I get "definition or redeclaration of 'cs_main' cannot name the global scope [clang-diagnostic-error]"
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3752019-11-13T20:48:01 <MarcoFalke> jamesob: globals are already captured
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3892019-11-13T21:15:37 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #17466: depends: qt: Fix C{,XX} pickup (master...2019-11-qt-CC-CXX-pickup) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17466
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3922019-11-13T21:15:57 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke reopened pull request #17466: depends: qt: Fix C{,XX} pickup (master...2019-11-qt-CC-CXX-pickup) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17466
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3962019-11-13T21:17:17 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #17469: test: Remove fragile assert_memory_usage_stable (master...1911-testFragileMem) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17469
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4022019-11-13T21:31:31 <jamesob> MarcoFalke: yeah in the second case I'm not doing a capture
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4182019-11-13T22:24:35 <JeremyCrookshank> @a5
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4322019-11-13T23:03:19 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #17470: ci: Use clang-8 for fuzzing to run on aarch64 ci systems (master...1911-ciFuzzClang8) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17470
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