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 252016-02-01T02:21:23  <gmaxwell> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1347997.0
 262016-02-01T02:21:40  <gmaxwell> "hint : create manually "banlist.dat" in "blockchain" folder if bitcoin-qt.exe crash after the check of the local blockchain."  <- cargo cult fixes due to spurrious log entries that we've never fixed?
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 282016-02-01T02:34:00  <phantomcircuit> ha
 292016-02-01T02:34:45  <phantomcircuit> gmaxwell, the failure rate is going to skyrocket as the utxo db grows and cpu load increases
 302016-02-01T02:34:56  <phantomcircuit> we're already shaking loose unstable hardware all over the place
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 912016-02-01T08:59:03  <GitHub71> [bitcoin] gladoscc opened pull request #7451: Add link to bitcoin whitepaper (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7451
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 932016-02-01T09:07:08  <GitHub62> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #7445: rename COPYING to LICENSE (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7445
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 982016-02-01T09:22:18  <GitHub46> bitcoin/master 93fc58c Jorge Timón: Consensus: Remove calls to error() and FormatStateMessage() from some consensus code in main
 992016-02-01T09:22:19  <GitHub46> bitcoin/master 31ec14b Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #7287: Consensus: Remove calls to error() and FormatStateMessage()...
1002016-02-01T09:22:23  <GitHub158> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #7287: Consensus: Remove calls to error() and FormatStateMessage() (master...consensus-decouple-util-0.13.99) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7287
1012016-02-01T09:35:47  <wumpus> Rebroad: what compile error do you get?
1022016-02-01T09:39:48  <wumpus> gmaxwell: right, a missing banlist.dat should be harmless. The only non-condiational log message I can find relating to it is "Invalid or missing banlist.dat; recreating\n", which is given when it doesn't exist yet and is being created
1032016-02-01T09:40:09  <wumpus> the other banlist.dat related messages all go to category net
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1052016-02-01T09:44:33  <gmaxwell> Did we fix it so that it actually got created.
1062016-02-01T09:47:06  <GitHub83> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 3 new commits to 0.12: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/cb83beb3759b...e2d9a5858807
1072016-02-01T09:47:06  <GitHub51> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #7438: Do not absolutely protect local peers; decide group ties based on time. (0.12...dont_protect_local) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7438
1082016-02-01T09:47:07  <GitHub83> bitcoin/0.12 46dbcd4 Gregory Maxwell: Do not absolutely protect local peers from eviction....
1092016-02-01T09:47:07  <GitHub83> bitcoin/0.12 8e09f91 Gregory Maxwell: Decide eviction group ties based on time....
1102016-02-01T09:47:08  <GitHub83> bitcoin/0.12 e2d9a58 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #7438: Do not absolutely protect local peers; decide group ties based on time....
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1132016-02-01T09:48:15  <wumpus> well my nodes have a banlist.dat and I haven't created it manually so I guess so
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1152016-02-01T09:51:56  <wumpus> oh not all of them, I guess only the ones that have banlists
1162016-02-01T09:52:31  <wumpus> strange. you knew this was a problem? why isn't there an issue open for it
1172016-02-01T09:53:11  <wumpus> 2016-01-13 09:35:05 ERROR: Read: Failed to open file /home/orion/.bitcoin/banlist.dat / 2016-01-13 09:35:05 Invalid or missing banlist.dat; recreating
1182016-02-01T09:53:13  <wumpus> appears every time
1192016-02-01T09:53:14  <gmaxwell> I thought there was. Sorry, so many things going on.
1202016-02-01T09:53:44  <wumpus> no problem, it's hardly critical, but especialy minor things like this should have an issue so that they don't get lost. I'll open one, np
1212016-02-01T09:53:55  <gmaxwell> I'm sure its some trivial fix; I'm not prone to whine about things that I think I ought to just go fix.
1222016-02-01T09:54:18  <gmaxwell> I think I whined to pieter about it in person and he already knew about it; or something like that.
1232016-02-01T09:54:40  <gmaxwell> I'm sorry. I'm not operating very effectively these days.
1242016-02-01T09:56:07  <wumpus> no need to fix it yourself, these are the right kind of issues for someone just getting into the code
1252016-02-01T09:56:46  <gmaxwell> point.
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1372016-02-01T11:06:00  <wumpus> I want to wrap up rc3 soon; any opinions on https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7431 / Rename permitrbf to replacebyfee and provide minimal string-list forward compatibility  ?
1382016-02-01T11:10:24  <gmaxwell> I don't have any objection there. I do think replacebyfee= is better named. Though if it's pluggable policy for luke I wonder why he didn't call it -mempoolreplace
1392016-02-01T11:11:56  <wumpus> good point
1402016-02-01T11:12:16  <wumpus> if it's general, why stick to replacing by fee
1412016-02-01T11:13:13  <gmaxwell> I want replace by moon.. uses a lunar calandar to select transactions.
1422016-02-01T11:14:31  <wumpus> to at least make centuries of superstition about lunar phases concrete
1432016-02-01T11:28:46  <petertodd> wumpus: I have no opinion on the names
1442016-02-01T11:29:19  <petertodd> wumpus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ussCHoQttyQ
1452016-02-01T11:29:31  <wumpus> petertodd: me neither, but if we're going to change it then it helps if people actually agree on it, so we don't get yet another pull request changing it to yet something else
1462016-02-01T11:29:59  <petertodd> wumpus: fine then, -replacebyfee or I kill you all with fire
1472016-02-01T11:30:08  <wumpus> lol
1482016-02-01T11:30:30  <petertodd> wumpus: -permitrbf is the type of name only bad people, incapable of love, would come up with
1492016-02-01T11:30:34  <gmaxwell> fee is just an acronym.  Function Evaluating Everything.
1502016-02-01T11:32:38  <wumpus> -replacebyfreedom
1512016-02-01T11:33:02  <gmaxwell> petertodd: ^ you're an idiot for not calling it that to begin with.
1522016-02-01T11:33:09  <gmaxwell> or replacementfreedom
1532016-02-01T11:33:44  <petertodd> gmaxwell: hey, not too late to release my own Bitcoin Freedom Edition fork
1542016-02-01T11:34:40  <petertodd> or Bitcoin Objectivism... free in every box of Ayn Bran!
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1622016-02-01T12:21:55  <gmaxwell> wumpus: is there anything else needed for the next RC?
1632016-02-01T12:22:48  <MarcoFalke> I think travis is failing due to missing doc
1642016-02-01T12:22:55  <MarcoFalke> one sec...
1652016-02-01T12:23:20  <wumpus> MarcoFalke: strange, I can't fin this in the output at least
1662016-02-01T12:23:55  <MarcoFalke> gmaxwell, I assume you need to add the arg to the blacklist in check-doc.py as well
1672016-02-01T12:24:20  <gmaxwell> oh interesting.
1682016-02-01T12:24:57  <MarcoFalke> I am using regex to collect all args, so there are some false positives
1692016-02-01T12:25:01  <wumpus> I think we should revert the argument checking for now - it's not apparent in the travis output at all
1702016-02-01T12:25:26  <MarcoFalke> The command "if [ "$RUN_TESTS" = "true" ]; then contrib/devtools/check-doc.py; fi" exited with 1.
1712016-02-01T12:25:31  <gmaxwell> I can try just pushing the check-doc update that suggested.
1722016-02-01T12:25:33  <MarcoFalke> wumpus, ^
1732016-02-01T12:25:36  <wumpus> this will confuse lots of people
1742016-02-01T12:25:57  <gmaxwell> I do as you command. Just tell me what to do.
1752016-02-01T12:25:59  <wumpus> gmaxwell: sure, but this is just not clear, we don't want tests where people have to guess what they have to change
1762016-02-01T12:26:21  <gmaxwell> oh you mean the test.
1772016-02-01T12:27:38  <MarcoFalke> gmaxwell, vim  contrib/devtools/check-doc.py , Then add it in the line where 'benchmark' is.
1782016-02-01T12:27:52  <wumpus> MarcoFalke: it needs a more clear message
1792016-02-01T12:28:08  <wumpus> people don't expect the tests to fail because of this
1802016-02-01T12:28:14  <wumpus> certainly not on all platforms
1812016-02-01T12:29:08  <MarcoFalke> wumpus, This is with all travis checks? You need to grep for the exit status in the output to find out what failed
1822016-02-01T12:29:43  <wumpus> for other failures, say while building or running the RPC tests there will be an actual error message
1832016-02-01T12:29:50  <wumpus> I've never had to "grep for an exit status"
1842016-02-01T12:30:51  <wumpus> also I think it'd make sense to do this check first
1852016-02-01T12:31:11  <wumpus> so people don't have to wait for all the other, more time-consuming tests, before failing on something silly like this
1862016-02-01T12:31:45  <MarcoFalke> it is first
1872016-02-01T12:31:55  <MarcoFalke> Right after make distdir
1882016-02-01T12:32:10  <wumpus> then why does e.g. "32-bit+dash" only fail after 19 minutes?
1892016-02-01T12:32:18  <wumpus> and the others after 11?
1902016-02-01T12:32:22  <wumpus> this could fail after less than one
1912016-02-01T12:33:04  <wumpus> to be clear I'm talking about: https://travis-ci.org/bitcoin/bitcoin/builds/106013074
1922016-02-01T12:33:17  <MarcoFalke> got this
1932016-02-01T12:33:42  <MarcoFalke> will pull a fix after lunch
1942016-02-01T12:33:48  <wumpus> thanks
1952016-02-01T12:34:03  <gmaxwell> MarcoFalke: I knw how to update it. But I wasn't sure if wumpus wanted me to. I just did, at least it'll see if travis passes.
1962016-02-01T12:34:10  <wumpus> gmaxwell: sure, that still makes sense
1972016-02-01T12:34:35  <wumpus> gmaxwell: my complaints about the test system are pretty much orthogonal :)
1982016-02-01T12:36:49  <gmaxwell> lol my comment karama in /r/btc is 16 now, will probably go negative tonight.
1992016-02-01T12:38:24  <wumpus> that should be worth a medal
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2012016-02-01T12:43:13  <wumpus> gmaxwell: re: rc3, #7439 is pretty much all, apart from some minor things like the -forcebyfee naming
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2032016-02-01T12:44:01  <gmaxwell> -freedomfee
2042016-02-01T12:45:01  <aj> typical of a blockstreamer, negative freedom and fees...
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2062016-02-01T12:45:43  <gmaxwell> he was kidding!
2072016-02-01T12:45:49  <aj> (it's true! i was!)
2082016-02-01T12:46:05  <wumpus> yes, I realized in time :)
2092016-02-01T12:46:12  <gmaxwell> hahah
2102016-02-01T12:47:03  <gmaxwell> Sometimes you just have to laugh, ... something is needed to blow the tears off the keyboard.
2112016-02-01T12:47:06  <aj> i've never thought of ops as concealed-carry before though
2122016-02-01T12:47:31  <gmaxwell> Perhaps others who share my sense of humor will also laugh at this:  https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/43kyev/greg_maxwell_accidentally_tells_the_truth/czjhpkz?context=4
2132016-02-01T12:47:50  <wumpus> hahahah me neither
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2162016-02-01T12:57:17  <MarcoFalke> travis is green. Looking forward to let gitian heat my room a bit.
2172016-02-01T12:59:22  <wumpus> nice
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2192016-02-01T13:11:47  <GitHub88> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 3 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/31ec14b74ba3...58a8574400c6
2202016-02-01T13:11:48  <GitHub88> bitcoin/master 325c725 Gregory Maxwell: Add whitelistforcerelay to control forced relaying....
2212016-02-01T13:11:49  <GitHub88> bitcoin/master 89d113e Gregory Maxwell: Blacklist -whitelistalwaysrelay; replaced by -whitelistrelay.
2222016-02-01T13:11:49  <GitHub88> bitcoin/master 58a8574 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #7439: Add whitelistforcerelay to control forced relaying. [#7099 redux]...
2232016-02-01T13:11:52  <GitHub115> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #7439: Add whitelistforcerelay to control forced relaying. [#7099 redux] (master...control_relay_force) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7439
2242016-02-01T13:12:17  * gmaxwell waits for the conspiracy theories.
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2262016-02-01T13:15:35  <aj> gmaxwell: while wumpus still has his @ drawn? no way man
2272016-02-01T13:16:02  <GitHub182> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 1 new commit to 0.12: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/86755bc85a869e7da4c9112604db5132e6dc6823
2282016-02-01T13:16:03  <GitHub182> bitcoin/0.12 86755bc Gregory Maxwell: Add whitelistforcerelay to control forced relaying. [#7099 redux]...
2292016-02-01T13:16:46  * wumpus puts his @ down
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2332016-02-01T13:23:38  <wumpus> http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2016-January/000191.html    "Malleus Mikehearnificarum." WTF haha
2342016-02-01T13:24:43  * wumpus will be serious from now on, otherwise this channel shall be retagged buttcoin-core-dev
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2392016-02-01T14:10:05  <GitHub132> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/58a8574400c6...196ad6913ff5
2402016-02-01T14:10:05  <GitHub132> bitcoin/master 6795851 gladoscc: Add link to whitepaper
2412016-02-01T14:10:06  <GitHub132> bitcoin/master 196ad69 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #7451: Add link to bitcoin whitepaper...
2422016-02-01T14:10:15  <GitHub147> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #7451: Add link to bitcoin whitepaper (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7451
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2462016-02-01T14:33:22  <GitHub102> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #7453: [0.13] Missing patches from 0.12 (master...Mf1601-013Forwardports) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7453
2472016-02-01T14:34:19  <MarcoFalke> wumpus, actually two pulls missed master. ^
2482016-02-01T14:35:29  <wumpus> HUH
2492016-02-01T14:36:11  <wumpus> wait, one of those is #7082
2502016-02-01T14:37:58  <wumpus> but don't know about "Get rid of inaccurate ScriptSigArgsExpected"
2512016-02-01T14:39:37  <wumpus> the other one is #7387
2522016-02-01T14:40:33  <wumpus> which has no master counterpart, good catch
2532016-02-01T14:42:40  <MarcoFalke> Would it make sense to merge  #7438 into master as well? (To make the #7082-diff smaller?)
2542016-02-01T14:44:14  <wumpus> depends on how different the 0.12 and master solution are, the 0.12 one is supposed to be a much simplified version that can go in quickly, in master we don't have so much of a hurry
2552016-02-01T14:45:27  <wumpus> but this is exactly why I prefer things to be in master first, this makes sure a major version upgrade is never a reversion
2562016-02-01T14:46:03  <wumpus> the only time I deviate from that is right before releases, for last minute changes
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2652016-02-01T15:24:13  <Rebroad> quick question.. does bitcoin core check block headers when it receives the headers AND when it receives the block?
2662016-02-01T15:24:38  <helo> surely
2672016-02-01T15:24:48  <Rebroad> and does the checking of the header take much time? if so, can it skip doing it upon receiving the block since it already did it when it received the header?
2682016-02-01T15:24:55  <instagibbs> I believe so since headers can be received out of order.
2692016-02-01T15:25:10  <instagibbs> you have to check it meets the correct PoW target once it's in the correct order
2702016-02-01T15:25:11  <helo> it can't all of the block (the merkle root) until it receives the block
2712016-02-01T15:25:19  <instagibbs> ^ that too
2722016-02-01T15:25:22  <helo> all of the block *header
2732016-02-01T15:25:36  <Rebroad> helo, yes, it would still need to check the merkle, but it wouldn't need to check the header again, right?
2742016-02-01T15:25:56  <helo> it could verify it matched the header it had retrieved instead
2752016-02-01T15:26:07  <instagibbs> you'd probably have to read the code to figure it out. The block validation timeline is a bit fuzzy for me. There are various stages.
2762016-02-01T15:26:36  <Rebroad> helo, yes... although would that save CPU doing it that way?
2772016-02-01T15:26:57  <wumpus> I don't think it will save CPU/time, verifying the header is neglible compared to the rest of block verification
2782016-02-01T15:27:06  <Rebroad> helo, and anyway, surely the hash of the block would be enough to be sure it was the same header, wouldn't it?
2792016-02-01T15:30:59  <helo> the header is the only part that is hashed afaik.
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2832016-02-01T15:38:23  <wumpus> helo: right; all the transactions are hashed in a merkle tree, the result is put in the header, then the header is hashed. THe block as a whole is never hashed.
2842016-02-01T15:39:01  <GitHub4> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #7455: [travis] Exit early when check-doc.py fails (master...Mf1601-travisCheckDoc) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7455
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2892016-02-01T15:52:14  <sdaftuar> instagibbs: while blocks can be received out of order, headers are not (we make sure we have the header for hashPrev when accepting a new block header)
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2912016-02-01T15:52:28  <instagibbs> derp, DoS risk, right
2922016-02-01T15:52:52  <instagibbs> I only know the ConnectBlock code intimately
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2972016-02-01T16:49:53  <MarcoFalke> wumpus, > if [a command] returns an exit code of 1, the following command [...] is still run, but the build will result in a failure. (cited from the travis doc)
2982016-02-01T16:50:22  <MarcoFalke> I don't think we can exit early
2992016-02-01T16:51:12  <MarcoFalke> At least right now, we are not doing an early exit
3002016-02-01T16:51:34  <MarcoFalke> Let's say `make` fails. Travis will still run the rpc test suite
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3102016-02-01T17:13:11  <wumpus> MarcoFalke: right, you need to explicitly exit, unless you use 'set -e' to terminate the script on every failed command
3112016-02-01T17:18:08  <MarcoFalke> Good enough for our current .travis.yml ...
3122016-02-01T17:19:33  <helo> "set -e" has some side effects
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3142016-02-01T17:21:41  <wumpus> helo: side effects?
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3162016-02-01T17:24:06  <helo> you probably are aware, but just wanted to mention... e.g. you can't check the value of $? with "set -e"
3172016-02-01T17:30:49  <wumpus> that's, imo, the main effect, not a side effect :) any non-zero return value will terminate your script so you'll never get to the $? check unless it was 0
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3192016-02-01T17:36:49  <Tasoshi> "[T]his channel shall be retagged buttcoin-core-dev". Lol, I can imagine people taking that out of context
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3212016-02-01T17:42:59  <wumpus> well that channel is still empty so apparently no one did
3222016-02-01T17:48:23  <Tasoshi> Some people do wonder whether the prevalent thought here is that bitcoin does not work though...
3232016-02-01T17:50:41  <wumpus> if it didn't work, why would people bother to keep working on it... anyhow, off topic
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3252016-02-01T17:56:31  <Tasoshi> because they have their own ideas of how to "fix it"
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3322016-02-01T18:57:03  <Luke-Jr> any objections to redoing https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7431#issuecomment-177924839 with -mempoolreplace=1 or =fee ?
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3352016-02-01T19:05:29  <OxADADA> btcdrak: sounds good
3362016-02-01T19:06:14  <OxADADA> -ignore- ^^^
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3402016-02-01T19:15:44  <jtimon> #7287 has been merged! Please review #7310 (#7311 and #7091 are libconsensus related too)
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3422016-02-01T19:30:54  <Luke-Jr> wumpus: mempoolreplacement change done
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3442016-02-01T19:34:54  <AngryInca> Hello!
3452016-02-01T19:35:58  <AngryInca> Can anyone tell me, do you have to checkout a specific branch from https://github.com/bitcoinclassic/bitcoinclassic.git to be running bitcoin classic? Or will just https://github.com/bitcoinclassic/bitcoinclassic.git, cd bitcoinclassic, ./autogen.sh && ./configure && make && make install work?
3462016-02-01T19:40:29  <paveljanik> OMG
3472016-02-01T19:40:44  <instagibbs> You seem to be looking at the wrong repo, try https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin
3482016-02-01T19:41:51  <AngryInca> hah, lol, well, thats embarrassing!  No offence.  I'm just looking around different builds.
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3552016-02-01T20:05:32  <gmaxwell> k, brought my laptop to current 0.12 and rpc is no longer binding to IPv4. I'm not sure when I last tested 0.12 branch on this host.
3562016-02-01T20:06:26  <gmaxwell> 2016-02-01 20:00:39 Binding RPC on address ::1 port 8332
3572016-02-01T20:06:27  <gmaxwell> 2016-02-01 20:00:39 Binding RPC on address 127.0.0.1 port 8332
3582016-02-01T20:06:27  <gmaxwell> 2016-02-01 20:00:39 libevent: getaddrinfo: address family for nodename not supported
3592016-02-01T20:06:29  <gmaxwell> 2016-02-01 20:00:39 Binding RPC on address 127.0.0.1 port 8332 failed.
3602016-02-01T20:06:40  <gmaxwell> any idea what might have broken this?
3612016-02-01T20:07:32  <OxADADA> is another process running on that port?
3622016-02-01T20:10:29  <gmaxwell> No.
3632016-02-01T20:12:07  <helo> dns failed, apparently?
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3652016-02-01T20:22:18  <gmaxwell> Git master works. 0.12 fails.
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3692016-02-01T20:32:58  <gmaxwell> well crap, working now. wtf was that.
3702016-02-01T20:33:29  <gmaxwell> (means my master vs 0.12 differential test is likely broken)
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3942016-02-01T22:39:48  <Luke-Jr> jonasschnelli: <jonas.schnelli@include7.ch>: host mail.include7.ch[80.74.145.70] said: 554    5.7.1 Service unavailable; Client host [192.3.11.21] blocked using    zen.spamhaus.org; https://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/query/SBL281118 (in reply to    RCPT TO command)
3952016-02-01T22:40:09  <OxADADA> uh oh.
3962016-02-01T22:40:19  <Luke-Jr> your email host sucks. fix it? :P  (Spamhaus abuses their position to blackmail datacentres)
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4032016-02-01T23:31:39  <Luke-Jr> for anyone not reading bitcoin-dev ML: https://github.com/luke-jr/bips/blob/bip-biprevised/bip-biprevised.mediawiki
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