12016-02-17T00:00:43 <phantomcircuit> wump, the payment protocol appears to be exposing a very large attack surface, this glibc exploit being a prime example
22016-02-17T00:07:23 <btcdrak> You mean wumpus I assume :-)
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52016-02-17T00:24:10 <Luke-Jr> phantomcircuit: indeed
62016-02-17T00:24:20 <Luke-Jr> would be nice to somehow sandbox it
72016-02-17T00:24:33 <Luke-Jr> but even moving it to another process may be useless
82016-02-17T00:24:44 <phantomcircuit> btcdrak, i do, but his nick has changed for some reason
92016-02-17T00:25:00 <Luke-Jr> at least we build with hardening options
102016-02-17T00:25:01 <phantomcircuit> Luke-Jr, it seems like disabling it by default is necessary
112016-02-17T00:25:11 <Luke-Jr> phantomcircuit: noooooooo then people will use addresses :<
122016-02-17T00:25:11 <phantomcircuit> "I KNOW WHAT IM DOING LET ME CHECK THE BOX"
132016-02-17T00:25:23 <phantomcircuit> Luke-Jr, have you looked at the code?
142016-02-17T00:25:25 <Luke-Jr> no
152016-02-17T00:25:35 <phantomcircuit> it's attack surface alone is larger than the entire rest of bitcoin-qt
162016-02-17T00:25:46 <Luke-Jr> of course it is
172016-02-17T00:25:52 <phantomcircuit> all of openssl tls, all of protobufs
182016-02-17T00:25:55 <Luke-Jr> that's inherent in doing secure connections with third parties
192016-02-17T00:25:59 <phantomcircuit> protobufs machine generated code
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262016-02-17T01:17:55 <gmaxwell> "errors": "WARNING: abnormally high number of blocks generated, 191 blocks received in the last 4 hours (24 expected)"
272016-02-17T01:18:07 <gmaxwell> ... syncing a brand new testnet node.
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302016-02-17T01:22:36 <warren> Hmm, I saw complaints about that warning on the forums lately. It might be buggy.
312016-02-17T01:23:05 <gmaxwell> it has several issues; they're known. just irritates me.
322016-02-17T01:24:08 <warren> I wonder if people ignore the warnings coming from the API because of false warnings.
332016-02-17T01:24:45 <gmaxwell> basically I think the _only_ requirement for hurestic danger condition warnings is that they be effectively free of false positives.
342016-02-17T01:34:58 <btcdrak> gmaxwell: is there any open issue about it?
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372016-02-17T01:36:13 <gmaxwell> yes
382016-02-17T01:36:56 <gmaxwell> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/7488
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542016-02-17T02:36:50 <Luke-Jr> dunno, I'd expect that on testnet regardles
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662016-02-17T03:36:10 <phantomcircuit> gmaxwell, the warning is actually correct on testnet, although not by anywhere near the margin in the error
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692016-02-17T03:56:24 <GitHub39> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #7548: Correct duplicate names in release notes (0.12...fix-release-note-names) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7548
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762016-02-17T05:23:29 <Luke-Jr> wump: we should switch from a time-based release schedule to block height :D
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802016-02-17T06:11:25 <warren> Luke-Jr: miners get to choose the release schedule in addition to the rules!
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832016-02-17T06:50:54 <Luke-Jr> XD
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1082016-02-17T08:40:27 <GitHub85> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to 0.12: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/b4662646352d...188ca9c305d3
1092016-02-17T08:40:28 <GitHub85> bitcoin/0.12 ea52530 fanquake: Fix duplicate names in release notes...
1102016-02-17T08:40:28 <GitHub159> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #7548: Correct duplicate names in release notes (0.12...fix-release-note-names) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7548
1112016-02-17T08:40:28 <GitHub85> bitcoin/0.12 188ca9c Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #7548: Correct duplicate names in release notes...
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1162016-02-17T09:22:19 <wumpus> phantomcircuit: yes, sandboxing that code would be nice. Although arguably, against libc exploits, no one stands a chance. If bitcoin-qt doesn't get exploited itself some other service or process will, and they'll pwn the box anyway.
1172016-02-17T09:26:52 <wumpus> I'm competely shocked that there is an exploitable vulnerability in DNS lookup in 2016, in the early days of the internet this wouldn't have been so surprising, but this really makes me sad. It fits in the category of 'winnuke' anno 1995.
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1202016-02-17T09:27:35 <Luke-Jr> wumpus: I didn't read all the details, but from what I saw, it looked like a potential intentional exploit
1212016-02-17T09:28:21 <wumpus> well if this vulnerability was created intentionall ywith our taxpayer dollars that woud be sad^infinity, the human race is doomed
1222016-02-17T09:28:44 <gmaxwell> Luke-Jr: come on, it's not like there is some big attacker with global infrastructure specifically built to monitor and spoof/race DNS responses in real time-- that would be needed to really make the best use of this.
1232016-02-17T09:29:44 <Luke-Jr> gmaxwell: lol (that's sarcasm, right?)
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1252016-02-17T09:29:56 <gmaxwell> right.
1262016-02-17T09:30:34 <wumpus> I can believe in stupidity, but such level of malice...
1272016-02-17T09:30:35 <Luke-Jr> hm, ttyl I guess :|
1282016-02-17T09:30:36 <Luke-Jr> [09:29:25] [Notice] -kloeri- [Global Notice] It's upgrade all the things day which also means lots of reboots. This will unfortunately be quite noisy. Remember connecting to chat.freenode.net, stay calm and don't panic!
1292016-02-17T09:30:40 <wumpus> later
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1322016-02-17T09:32:12 <Luke-Jr> fwiw here's the Gentoo bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=574880
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1342016-02-17T09:32:55 <Luke-Jr> wumpus: AIUI, basically they allocated the buffer correctly, but "forgot" to set the old pointer var to the new buffer, while using the newly allocated buffer's size still
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1372016-02-17T09:37:00 <wumpus> Luke-Jr: that would be problematic on the heap, but with alloca doubly so, as stack overflows are much easier to exploit
1382016-02-17T09:38:44 <Luke-Jr> there was also something removed by the patch that explicitly disabled GCC warnings about something too, not sure if related
1392016-02-17T09:38:59 <Luke-Jr> actually, I think that's on the Gentoo side of the merge, nm
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1412016-02-17T09:41:21 <wumpus> at least stack canaries should be some help, given that there's not some convenient heartbleed-like leak somewhere, or a convenient variable to overwrite on the stack before the canary; after all, alloca() by necessity gets allocated *before* the rest of the stack frame so it can overwrite anything else on it
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1452016-02-17T09:44:35 <gmaxwell> the problem is that honest mistakes tend to look more suspicious than bugdoors.
1462016-02-17T09:45:06 <Luke-Jr> gmaxwell: that's a good point
1472016-02-17T09:45:22 <gmaxwell> because a mistake is a roll of dice, you didn't intend to make it-- so if it's suspicious looking or not is pure chance... while a bugdoor is intentional and can be carefully crafted to look accidental.
1482016-02-17T09:46:07 <gmaxwell> Luke-Jr: gentoo has updated ebuilds but they're still masked. 2.21-r2 and 2.22-r2
1492016-02-17T09:46:15 <wumpus> yes, that's true
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2522016-02-17T11:20:56 <randy-waterhouse> more like a welcome mat than a bugdoor
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2562016-02-17T11:33:02 <GitHub5> [bitcoin] ptschip opened pull request #7549: Fix for locking issue and compile warning (master...BUIP010_pt3) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7549
2572016-02-17T11:35:20 <GitHub100> [bitcoin] ptschip closed pull request #7549: Fix for locking issue and compile warning (master...BUIP010_pt3) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7549
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4692016-02-17T14:15:29 <GitHub33> [bitcoin] laanwj opened pull request #7550: rpc: Input-from-stdin mode for bitcoin-cli (master...2016_02_cli_stdin2) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7550
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5222016-02-17T17:45:26 <GitHub144> [bitcoin] pedrobranco opened pull request #7551: Add importmulti RPC call (master...feature/rpc-import-multi) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7551
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5282016-02-17T17:56:15 <GitHub6> [bitcoin] laanwj opened pull request #7552: rpc: Add `verifyrawtransactions` call (master...2016_02_verifytransaction) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7552
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5442016-02-17T20:15:04 <AndreySamohvalov> Hi!
5452016-02-17T20:16:04 <btcdrak> hi
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