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 612016-06-10T07:52:04  <GitHub113> bitcoin/master d096d22 Wladimir J. van der Laan: build: Get rid of `CLIENT_DATE`...
 622016-06-10T07:52:05  <GitHub113> bitcoin/master 9201ce8 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #8181: build: Get rid of `CLIENT_DATE`...
 632016-06-10T07:52:14  <GitHub127> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #8181: build: Get rid of `CLIENT_DATE` (master...2016_06_bye_client_date) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8181
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 662016-06-10T08:06:23  <GitHub14> bitcoin/master 0cb0f26 Cory Fields: build: out-of-tree fixups...
 672016-06-10T08:06:23  <GitHub14> bitcoin/master fc4ad0c Cory Fields: build: more out-of-tree fixups...
 682016-06-10T08:06:24  <GitHub14> bitcoin/master ab95d5d Cory Fields: build: a few ugly hacks to get the rpc tests working out-of-tree...
 692016-06-10T08:06:27  <GitHub24> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #8133: build: Finish up out-of-tree changes (master...out-of-tree-clean) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8133
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1652016-06-10T09:29:17  <GitHub15> [bitcoin] theuni opened pull request #8188: Add armhf/aarch64 gitian builds (master...arm-bins) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8188
1662016-06-10T09:29:57  <GitHub143> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/ac8d0418ed28...67db011e1259
1672016-06-10T09:29:57  <GitHub143> bitcoin/master 654a211 Kaz Wesley: developer notes: updates for C++11...
1682016-06-10T09:29:58  <GitHub143> bitcoin/master 67db011 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #8177: developer notes: updates for C++11...
1692016-06-10T09:30:07  <GitHub177> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #8177: developer notes: updates for C++11 (master...no-c-casts) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8177
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1732016-06-10T10:03:28  <MarcoFalke> cfields_: I broke the gitian windows build. Not sure how to proceed :/
1742016-06-10T10:04:19  <MarcoFalke> If you can't figure out why, I think the best is to revert my recent patch to the gitian descriptors.
1752016-06-10T10:05:16  <sipa> which patch broke it?
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1772016-06-10T10:08:30  <MarcoFalke> pull #7283, I haven't marked it as [WIP], so it got merged even though there was the failure
1782016-06-10T10:09:41  <btcdrak> mardown tasklists are better for giving visibility into process and remaining.
1792016-06-10T10:09:45  <btcdrak> progress*
1802016-06-10T10:10:26  <btcdrak> it also renders in any references, or PR lists.
1812016-06-10T10:10:36  <MarcoFalke> log: https://bitcoin.jonasschnelli.ch/nightlybuilds/2016-06-10/build-win.log
1822016-06-10T10:12:39  <sipa> are you sure that's the result of your PR, MarcoFalke?
1832016-06-10T10:13:27  <MarcoFalke> At least it is the same error I reported here: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7283#issuecomment-208076819
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1882016-06-10T11:17:46  <jonasschnelli> Oh. Is the windows nightly gitian build broken?
1892016-06-10T11:21:17  <MarcoFalke> Apparently you can fix it by adding an additional gnu compiler package, but I fail to see why my refactoring triggered this.
1902016-06-10T11:21:45  <MarcoFalke> jonasschnelli: I don't think the problem is on your server
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2032016-06-10T13:41:21  <GitHub66> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/67db011e1259...3e4cf8fe2644
2042016-06-10T13:41:21  <GitHub66> bitcoin/master 2ca8962 Cory Fields: travis: use slim generic image, and some fixups...
2052016-06-10T13:41:22  <GitHub66> bitcoin/master 3e4cf8f Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #8067: travis: use slim generic image, and some fixups...
2062016-06-10T13:41:31  <GitHub145> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #8067: travis: use slim generic image, and some fixups (master...travis-generic-image) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8067
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2102016-06-10T14:08:41  <cfields_> hmm, I saw some problems with gitian, but didn't test win
2112016-06-10T14:09:08  <cfields_> the problem i saw had to do with timestamps and caching. timestamps end up moving backwards and build refuses to continue
2122016-06-10T14:09:26  <cfields_> I wasn't sure if the issue was local
2132016-06-10T14:10:32  <cfields_> so yea, if 7283 is causing some other issue, i'd say +1 to reverting it for now
2142016-06-10T14:12:59  <GitHub135> [bitcoin] instagibbs opened pull request #8189: rename mapAddrCount to mapNetGroupNodes (master...mapAddrCounts) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8189
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2162016-06-10T14:37:48  <GitHub39> [bitcoin] theuni closed pull request #6526: Move blocksize and related parameters to consensusparams (master...blocksize-consensus) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/6526
2172016-06-10T14:41:30  <wumpus> cfields_: strange - I had no problems with gitan
2182016-06-10T14:41:39  <wumpus> cfields_: maybe pre-7283 caches cause trouble?
2192016-06-10T14:42:23  <wumpus> cfields_: yes, I think that's the problem. 7283 sets faketime for the dependencies to a date in 2000, instead of 2006
2202016-06-10T14:42:29  <cfields_> wumpus: could be. I didn't look into it at the time, I just nuked the cache and the next build succeeded
2212016-06-10T14:42:40  <wumpus> right
2222016-06-10T14:44:34  <wumpus> so: if during gitian build you get errors about timestamps, try removing your caches
2232016-06-10T14:44:53  <wumpus> if we have to revert 7283 I'd say don't merge it again, it's just not worth it
2242016-06-10T14:44:55  <cfields_> wumpus: iirc the issue was that timestamps were in the future. So I assumed that it had something to do with committing a change on my machine and quickly building it inside gitian, where the current time may be slightly behind the committed time
2252016-06-10T14:46:31  <cfields_> cory@cory-i7:~/dev/bitcoin(arm-bins)$ date
2262016-06-10T14:46:32  <cfields_> Fri Jun 10 10:52:33 EDT 2016
2272016-06-10T14:46:43  <cfields_> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ date
2282016-06-10T14:46:43  <cfields_> Fri Jun 10 14:46:03 UTC 2016
2292016-06-10T14:47:42  <cfields_> ^^ my system clock is indeed apparently skewed. so building a commit within ~6min could've caused me issues i think?
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2312016-06-10T14:48:51  <cfields_> oh, and those timezones are confusing too :)
2322016-06-10T15:08:12  <sipa> http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/45771/mempool-filled-with-14kb-transactions-tons-of-inputs-0-15-mbtc-fee?noredirect=1#comment53373_45771
2332016-06-10T15:08:43  <sipa> our modified txsize calculation is being abused by huge cheap transactions with tons of inputs
2342016-06-10T15:14:03  <sipa> i
2352016-06-10T15:14:06  <wumpus> ugh
2362016-06-10T15:14:10  <sipa> i'm unsure whether this is intended behaviour
2372016-06-10T15:14:17  <sipa> it's clearly cleaning up lots of utxos
2382016-06-10T15:14:31  <wumpus> large transactions with lots of inputs have always been quite popular
2392016-06-10T15:14:42  <sipa> it's certainly suboptimal for miners
2402016-06-10T15:14:58  <wumpus> but it getting away with so little fee is curious
2412016-06-10T15:15:15  <sipa> well in modified txsize, inputs are free
2422016-06-10T15:17:10  <sipa> (unless they have a scriptSig of over 110 bytes)
2432016-06-10T15:18:12  <warren> I've always felt that costs should be imposed during creation of each UTXO, but it's too late to change that without upsetting people...
2442016-06-10T15:21:37  <sipa> gmaxwell: ^
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2482016-06-10T15:33:40  <wumpus> having inputs entirely free is a curious decision, although it works to clean up utxos I guess
2492016-06-10T15:47:20  <morcos> sipa: i'm not sure what the concern is exactly
2502016-06-10T15:47:28  <morcos> modified tx size is only used for priority
2512016-06-10T15:47:50  <morcos> these things are still booted from a limited mempool by feerate based on actual tx size
2522016-06-10T15:48:12  <sipa> ah, i see
2532016-06-10T15:49:03  <morcos> i'm guessing they are just getting in via the free tx rate limiting
2542016-06-10T15:50:48  <sipa> morcos: thanks for clearing that up, i forgot it didn't apply everywhere
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2582016-06-10T16:20:44  <gmaxwell> why pinging me, the modified txsize stuff was only ever used for priority.
2592016-06-10T16:21:02  <sipa> ok, false alarm :)
2602016-06-10T16:21:22  <sipa> it also explains why they aren't confirming
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2782016-06-10T18:57:58  <gmaxwell> sipa: thanks for the change to outpoint, thats indeed much better.  Any thoughts on the recursive orphan issue?  I was thinking of just adding the insertion time to the maporphan object and just deleting old orphans from time to time... which is probably an independantly good thing to do.
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2812016-06-10T18:59:02  <sipa> gmaxwell: i'd go further and make an encapsulated OrphanMap object that just has 'add','delete', 'deleterecursive'
2822016-06-10T18:59:17  <sipa> but trying to limit changes now
2832016-06-10T19:00:20  <gmaxwell> kind of an annoying thing about just deleting recursively, ... say the orphan was included in a block instead of conflicted, in that case the deletion should not be recursive.
2842016-06-10T19:01:17  <sipa> yes, that's why you'd also have a non-recursive delete
2852016-06-10T19:01:27  <sipa> it's very similar to the mempool, actually...
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3102016-06-10T21:26:14  <cfields_> cya everyone, back in a few weeks.
3112016-06-10T21:26:18  <helo> o/
3122016-06-10T21:26:40  <btcdrak> cfields_ enjoy :)
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