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  82016-06-24T00:54:55  <phantomcircuit> sipa: is the block/headers synchronziation strategy documented anywhere?
  92016-06-24T00:55:15  <phantomcircuit> (mostly im interested in the intended operation)
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 232016-06-24T05:10:12  <sipa> phantomcircuit: it's complicated...
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 252016-06-24T05:16:45  <phantomcircuit> sipa, that's uh
 262016-06-24T05:16:50  <phantomcircuit> sipa, can you explain it to me?
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 282016-06-24T05:29:21  <sipa> yes
 292016-06-24T05:30:03  <sipa> during initial sync, we send a getheaders to one peer only; outside of it we send it to all
 302016-06-24T05:30:23  <sipa> from headers responses we learn what blocks peers have
 312016-06-24T05:31:10  <sipa> and then in sendmessages determine which blocks to fetch from whom, subject to various conditions
 322016-06-24T05:31:33  <sipa> that's the parallel fetch
 332016-06-24T05:32:34  <sipa> there is also the direct fetch, in response to a block 'inv', which (a) sends a getheaders from that inv (b) sends a getdata if we believe we're close to being synced
 342016-06-24T05:33:16  <sipa> and then there is bip130, which introduces direct fetch in response to headers
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 362016-06-24T05:34:37  <sipa> phantomcircuit: for more detail i need to look at the code
 372016-06-24T05:36:12  <phantomcircuit> sipa, ok that's helpful
 382016-06-24T05:37:14  <sipa> an invariant is that we never send a second request for a block that is already in flight, but we have timeouts that will disconnect (but not ban) a peer that takes too long
 392016-06-24T05:41:07  <gmaxwell> with compact blocks that could potentially be relaxed in the future. fetching a redundant compact block is not going to push you over being able to keep up with the network.
 402016-06-24T05:41:20  <gmaxwell> nor would a redundant blocktxn so long as it was less than half the block worth of data.
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 432016-06-24T07:02:57  <GitHub139> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #8252: [trivial] Add aarch64 to depends .gitignore (master...depends-aarch-gitignore) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8252
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 452016-06-24T07:18:08  <GitHub135> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #8253: [TEST] [Travis] Remove hostname workaround (master...remove-travis-workaround) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8253
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 472016-06-24T07:35:43  <GitHub29> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #8254: [doc] Add OSX ZMQ requirement to QA readme (master...qa-readme-zmq) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8254
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 552016-06-24T10:24:13  <wumpus> so, time to merge segwit today?
 562016-06-24T10:24:18  <GitHub67> [bitcoin] fsb4000 opened pull request #8256: BUG: bitcoin-qt crash (master...patch-4) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8256
 572016-06-24T10:40:04  <GitHub13> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/08338942b50f...c2c69edf37b5
 582016-06-24T10:40:05  <GitHub13> bitcoin/master d241487 fanquake: [doc] Add OS X ZMQ requirement to QA readme
 592016-06-24T10:40:05  <GitHub13> bitcoin/master c2c69ed MarcoFalke: Merge #8254: [doc] Add OSX ZMQ requirement to QA readme...
 602016-06-24T10:40:14  <GitHub132> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #8254: [doc] Add OSX ZMQ requirement to QA readme (master...qa-readme-zmq) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8254
 612016-06-24T10:45:20  <GitHub155> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/c2c69edf37b5...5cd35d3dbc8b
 622016-06-24T10:45:21  <GitHub155> bitcoin/master 133deb8 Pieter Wuille: Mark my dnsseed as supporting filtering
 632016-06-24T10:45:21  <GitHub155> bitcoin/master 5cd35d3 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #8247: Mark my dnsseed as supporting filtering...
 642016-06-24T10:45:31  <GitHub107> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #8247: Mark my dnsseed as supporting filtering (master...newseed) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8247
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 692016-06-24T11:48:35  <GitHub66> bitcoin/master d7828ab fsb4000: check that transactionView->selectionModel()->selectedRows(0) exists
 702016-06-24T11:48:36  <GitHub66> bitcoin/master af2421c Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #8256: BUG: bitcoin-qt crash...
 712016-06-24T11:48:45  <GitHub124> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #8256: BUG: bitcoin-qt crash (master...patch-4) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8256
 722016-06-24T11:58:51  <Lauda> Has the source of the re-index slowdown been discovered?
 732016-06-24T12:03:36  <wumpus> I don't think so? I don't think it's even clear yet whether there is one, but you should refer to the issue:  https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/8245
 742016-06-24T12:03:59  <wumpus> you could help by doing reindex tests with different revisions/versions
 752016-06-24T12:15:18  <Lauda> Does someone have a link to download a/some version(s)? I'd waste additionaly time building them otherwise
 762016-06-24T12:15:24  <Lauda> I'd be happy to help.
 772016-06-24T12:15:54  <Lauda> additional*
 782016-06-24T12:19:26  <MarcoFalke> Lauda: there are nightly builds
 792016-06-24T12:19:31  <Lauda> Where?
 802016-06-24T12:20:07  <MarcoFalke> https://bitcoin.jonasschnelli.ch/nightlybuilds/
 812016-06-24T12:20:52  <Lauda> Thanks. I'm on it, and will post the results once done.
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 922016-06-24T13:55:47  <sipa> the ThreadSafeMessageBox for "Do you want to reindex now" only has an BTN_ABORT button?
 932016-06-24T13:57:07  <sipa> why is it even a yes/no question then
 942016-06-24T13:58:17  <wumpus> it should have a yes/no button
 952016-06-24T13:58:22  <wumpus> if not, that's a regression
 962016-06-24T14:00:11  <wumpus> it's the only place where the return value of ThreadSafeMessageBox is used
 972016-06-24T14:00:20  <wumpus> if there is only one return value that's pertty pointless
 982016-06-24T14:01:22  <sipa> i think that function should just be replaced with two simpler functions void UIMessage(string) and bool UIQuestion(string)
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1002016-06-24T14:02:04  <sipa> ah, MODAL is used for payment protocol
1012016-06-24T14:02:17  <sipa> isn't that unnecessarily intrusive?
1022016-06-24T14:02:26  <wumpus> adding an UIQuestion would make sense, it could return a default value in case of no ui
1032016-06-24T14:02:34  <wumpus> I don't think it's a good time to change the rest of that stuff
1042016-06-24T14:03:05  <sipa> agree
1052016-06-24T14:04:44  <sipa> i'll make a minimal change for 0.13, and a follow-up refactor for master post branching
1062016-06-24T14:05:44  <wumpus> sounds good to me
1072016-06-24T14:06:33  <wumpus> sipa: it should have an OK button too
1082016-06-24T14:06:44  <wumpus> sipa: MSG_ERROR = (ICON_ERROR | BTN_OK | MODAL)
1092016-06-24T14:06:48  <sipa> ah!
1102016-06-24T14:06:57  <wumpus> CClientUIInterface::MSG_ERROR | CClientUIInterface::BTN_ABORT
1112016-06-24T14:07:03  <sipa> that's confusing, but agree
1122016-06-24T14:07:07  <wumpus> so it has an OK and ABORT button
1132016-06-24T14:07:55  <wumpus> yes, well, that stuff was inherited from the wx client, I agree it would be better in terms of UIMessage, UIQuestion, the MODAL stuff is only used within the GUI code itself so could use something else
1142016-06-24T14:08:56  <wumpus> (the problem there is that paymentserver wasn't designed in the typical qt way with a model and view, so instead of displaying a alert directly, which would be weird in server code, it works around that by abusing the core->ui messaging system :-)
1152016-06-24T14:09:50  <wumpus> so once you start refactoring you'll probably bump against all kinds of things which grew over time and don't exactly fit into the new, cleaned vision
1162016-06-24T14:12:47  <wumpus> paymentserver should have a dedicated signal for messages to the user
1172016-06-24T14:12:55  <wumpus> (and the GUI should subscribe to that)
1182016-06-24T14:13:22  <sipa> there are 9 call sites to ThreadSafeMessageBox
1192016-06-24T14:13:34  <sipa> that's more than i expected, but not particularly much either
1202016-06-24T14:14:01  <wumpus> must of the calls are InitMessage/InitWarnings
1212016-06-24T14:14:15  <wumpus> InitError*
1222016-06-24T14:14:18  <sipa> i call those as a single call site
1232016-06-24T14:14:21  <sipa> *count
1242016-06-24T14:14:31  <wumpus> I know, but I mean, all in al the function is used quite a lot
1252016-06-24T14:14:37  <sipa> right
1262016-06-24T14:15:04  <wumpus> ideally the core would communicate with the GUI through status codes/bits instead of sending whole messages
1272016-06-24T14:15:17  <wumpus> I mean, the user-facing text belongs in the GUI
1282016-06-24T14:15:42  <wumpus> the _(...) workaround which is hooked by the GUI is pretty weird
1292016-06-24T14:15:56  <sipa> yes
1302016-06-24T14:16:11  <wumpus> then again, it was never really urgent to change, at least it works
1312016-06-24T14:16:32  <wumpus> these are things you can spent weeks on, without anything affecting the user-facing side
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1362016-06-24T14:35:54  <GitHub195> [bitcoin] sipa opened pull request #8257: Do not ask a UI question from bitcoind (master...noask) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8257
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1542016-06-24T16:07:37  <wumpus> okay, here we go
1552016-06-24T16:07:59  <wumpus> IRC flood upcoming
1562016-06-24T16:08:09  <btcdrak> LOL
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1592016-06-24T16:09:53  <GitHub54> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 28 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/af2421c291c4...d61283781402
1602016-06-24T16:09:54  <GitHub54> bitcoin/master ecacfd9 Pieter Wuille: --- [SEGWIT] begin: P2P/node/consensus ---
1612016-06-24T16:09:55  <GitHub54> bitcoin/master 7030d9e Pieter Wuille: BIP144: Serialization, hashes, relay (sender side)...
1622016-06-24T16:09:55  <GitHub54> bitcoin/master 449f9b8 Pieter Wuille: BIP141: Witness program
1632016-06-24T16:09:58  <GitHub34> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #8149: Segregated witness rebased (master...segwit-master2) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8149
1642016-06-24T16:10:27  <wumpus> that's disappointing, does it print only at most three commits?
1652016-06-24T16:10:35  <jl2012> \o/
1662016-06-24T16:10:44  * sipa vacation.
1672016-06-24T16:11:04  <achow101> woo!
1682016-06-24T16:11:22  <wumpus> sipa: yes like true developers, let's do a release now and go on holiday :')
1692016-06-24T16:12:03  <sipa> of course
1702016-06-24T16:12:12  <wumpus> it's deployed! seeya!
1712016-06-24T16:12:13  <Ylbam> lol
1722016-06-24T16:12:23  <Ylbam> anyway \o/
1732016-06-24T16:12:46  <GitHub158> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/d61283781402...5cdc54b4b62d
1742016-06-24T16:12:47  <GitHub158> bitcoin/master f70bcfc fanquake: [trivial] Add aarch64 to depends .gitignore
1752016-06-24T16:12:47  <GitHub158> bitcoin/master 5cdc54b Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #8252: [trivial] Add aarch64 to depends .gitignore...
1762016-06-24T16:12:51  <GitHub8> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #8252: [trivial] Add aarch64 to depends .gitignore (master...depends-aarch-gitignore) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8252
1772016-06-24T16:12:57  <achow101> so what about the deployment stuff for segwit?
1782016-06-24T16:13:15  <wumpus> achow101: it's all described here: https://bitcoincore.org/en/2016/06/24/segwit-next-steps/
1792016-06-24T16:15:22  <instagibbs> \o/
1802016-06-24T16:15:26  <achow101> When do we decide deployment parameters
1812016-06-24T16:15:36  <instagibbs> achow101, after/during backport i think
1822016-06-24T16:16:00  <wumpus> yes
1832016-06-24T16:16:12  <achow101> ok
1842016-06-24T16:16:16  <wumpus> needs to be determined for the 0.12.2 release
1852016-06-24T16:21:08  <GitHub18> [bitcoin] sipa closed pull request #7910: Segregated witness (master...segwit-master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7910
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1872016-06-24T16:44:36  <gmaxwell> Yippie.
1882016-06-24T16:48:30  <wumpus> yes, congrats everyone!
1892016-06-24T16:58:25  <GitHub9> [bitcoin] jl2012 opened pull request #8258: RPC: Hide softfork if timeout is 0 (master...bip9rpcdisable) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8258
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1922016-06-24T16:59:30  <helo> pretty exciting
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2252016-06-24T21:01:03  <GitHub154> [bitcoin] NicolasDorier opened pull request #8259: Cache hashes (master...cachedhashes) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8259
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2382016-06-24T23:41:30  <randy-waterhouse> so git head should run fine on on testnet3 without any additional config changes or needs to go on segnet?
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2402016-06-24T23:42:11  <gmaxwell> yes, though there may not be enough testnet nodes with it yet that you can get it to work right without an addnode.
2412016-06-24T23:42:27  <gmaxwell> One of the todos coming out of the meeting this week was to get more segwit testnet nodes up.
2422016-06-24T23:43:21  <randy-waterhouse> k, thnx ... what is the "Rewinding" part doing?
2432016-06-24T23:44:07  <gmaxwell> What it says-- segwit has been active on testnet for a couple months-- but your node wasn't able to verify the segwit rules... so it's undoing the chain and revalidating it to make sure there were no violations since it activated.
2442016-06-24T23:44:30  <gmaxwell> If you had been running segwit code on testnet before it activated you wouldn't have expirenced that.
2452016-06-24T23:45:34  <randy-waterhouse> ok, looks like I'm gonna need some addnodes, can I find a list of seggers?
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2472016-06-24T23:46:02  <randy-waterhouse> or is it segwitters?
2482016-06-24T23:50:06  <randy-waterhouse> nm ... found one randomly
2492016-06-24T23:50:38  <randy-waterhouse> 119.246.245.241
2502016-06-24T23:50:39  <sipa> i think we should call transactions with an invalid witness segfaults
2512016-06-24T23:50:59  <randy-waterhouse> please no segfaults
2522016-06-24T23:53:57  <randy-waterhouse> and here come the blocks ... my blockchain will never be the same again
2532016-06-24T23:54:08  <randy-waterhouse> feels like I just exited something
2542016-06-24T23:54:19  <randy-waterhouse> blexit