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 282017-04-05T03:00:21  <chatter29> hey guys
 292017-04-05T03:00:24  <chatter29> allah is doing
 302017-04-05T03:00:29  <chatter29> sun is not doing allah is doing
 312017-04-05T03:00:31  <chatter29> to accept Islam say that i bear witness that there is no deity worthy of worship except Allah and Muhammad peace be upon him is his slave and messenger
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 652017-04-05T05:59:23  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master bd41d98 Andrew Chow: Datadir option in linearize scripts...
 662017-04-05T05:59:24  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fadf078 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #10104: linearize script: Option to use RPC cookie...
 672017-04-05T05:59:46  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #10104: linearize script: Option to use RPC cookie (master...linearize-use-cookie) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10104
 682017-04-05T06:11:03  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 4 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/fadf078c9cd7...5fc6a77aa626
 692017-04-05T06:11:04  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 5b95a19 Alex Morcos: Make pcoinsTip memory calculations consistent...
 702017-04-05T06:11:04  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master f33afd3 Alex Morcos: Lower default memory footprint slightly
 712017-04-05T06:11:05  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 1b55e07 Alex Morcos: Make threshold for flushing more conservative....
 722017-04-05T06:11:23  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #10133: Clean up calculations of pcoinsTip memory usage (master...cachememory) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10133
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 762017-04-05T06:23:39  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/0.14 ab864d3 Alex Morcos: Make pcoinsTip memory calculations consistent...
 772017-04-05T06:23:39  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/0.14 d686768 Alex Morcos: Lower default memory footprint slightly...
 782017-04-05T06:23:40  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/0.14 0e5133c Alex Morcos: Make threshold for flushing more conservative....
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 842017-04-05T06:37:14  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master ba7dd8b Suhas Daftuar: Test prioritisetransaction and ancestor fee state...
 852017-04-05T06:37:14  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 9bef02e Suhas Daftuar: Bugfix: ancestor modifed fees were incorrect for descendants...
 862017-04-05T06:37:15  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master f93f9b9 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #10144: Prioritisetransaction wasn't always updating ancestor fee...
 872017-04-05T06:37:33  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #10144: Prioritisetransaction wasn't always updating ancestor fee (master...2017-04-fix-mempool-modified-ancestor-fees) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10144
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 892017-04-05T06:52:16  <wumpus> I think we're ready to tag 0.14.1rc1 again
 902017-04-05T06:55:52  <jonasschnelli> ack
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1012017-04-05T07:10:40  <fanquake> I didn't realise we'd already done it once
1022017-04-05T07:13:09  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 3 new commits to 0.14: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/0e5133cb2ef8...47d24c85b71b
1032017-04-05T07:13:10  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/0.14 d947afc Suhas Daftuar: Test prioritisetransaction and ancestor fee state...
1042017-04-05T07:13:10  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/0.14 ea060c7 Suhas Daftuar: Bugfix: ancestor modifed fees were incorrect for descendants...
1052017-04-05T07:13:11  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/0.14 47d24c8 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Bump version to 0.14.1
1062017-04-05T07:13:29  <wumpus> no I didn't actually do it last friday, but was about to
1072017-04-05T07:14:32  <gmaxwell> technically we're supposted to update the assumevalid, and work.. doesn't really matter much if we don't. But stating it for the future.
1082017-04-05T07:16:00  <wumpus> that would need another review cycle
1092017-04-05T07:16:15  <wumpus> it's not 'obvious' like the version bump
1102017-04-05T07:18:03  <gmaxwell> yea, thats why I'm not saying "hold up hold up"
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1132017-04-05T07:20:00  <wumpus> but yes it's close enough after 0.14.0 that it shouldn't really matter
1142017-04-05T07:20:19  <gmaxwell> yea, it's fine.
1152017-04-05T07:21:37  <wumpus> v0.14.1rc1 pushed
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1172017-04-05T07:24:20  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/f93f9b92969b...fade78854cf4
1182017-04-05T07:24:21  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master faab624 MarcoFalke: logging: Fix off-by-one for shrinkdebugfile
1192017-04-05T07:24:21  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fade788 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #10153: logging: Fix off-by-one for shrinkdebugfile default...
1202017-04-05T07:24:41  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #10153: logging: Fix off-by-one for shrinkdebugfile default (master...Mf1704-offbyoneDebug) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10153
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1242017-04-05T07:26:51  <wumpus> MarcoFalke: off-by-one errors on booleans are an interesting concept :)
1252017-04-05T07:27:08  <wumpus> off-by-one and off-by-everything at the same time
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1312017-04-05T07:49:29  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj opened pull request #10155: build: Deduplicate version numbers (master...2017_03_version_bump) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10155
1322017-04-05T07:52:06  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] AllanDoensen opened pull request #10156: Fix for issues with startup and mutiple monitors on windows. (master...masterMultiMonFix) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10156
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1472017-04-05T09:28:35  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/fade78854cf4...3c95bd43d8ff
1482017-04-05T09:28:35  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master faafa80 MarcoFalke: init: Remove redundant logging code
1492017-04-05T09:28:36  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 3c95bd4 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #10154: init: Remove redundant logging code...
1502017-04-05T09:28:55  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #10154: init: Remove redundant logging code (master...Mf1704-lognodebug) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10154
1512017-04-05T09:30:28  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/3c95bd43d8ff...c7e73eafa139
1522017-04-05T09:30:28  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master cd7f394 John Newbery: initialize flag variable to 0 (and continue if GetLogCategory() fails)
1532017-04-05T09:30:29  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master c7e73ea Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #10151: [logging] initialize flag variable to 0 (and continue if GetLogCategory() fails)...
1542017-04-05T09:30:52  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #10151: [logging] initialize flag variable to 0 (and continue if GetLogCategory() fails) (master...logging_initialization) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10151
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1602017-04-05T09:53:04  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 1 new commit to 0.14: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/920acbcca8240cb11a74055a81d5129c8a4c85af
1612017-04-05T09:53:04  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/0.14 920acbc Wladimir J. van der Laan: doc: Update release notes for 0.14.1
1622017-04-05T09:53:22  <wumpus> anoyone care to write something about notable changes in 0.14.1? https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/0.14/doc/release-notes.md#notable-changes
1632017-04-05T09:55:57  <wumpus> (or if you contributed to 0.14.1 and somehow your name is missing in the credits, let me know)
1642017-04-05T10:03:30  <sipa> only behavior changes are the already listed arg rename, memory usage changes, and default segwit enable?
1652017-04-05T10:04:20  <wumpus> yes, I think so
1662017-04-05T10:05:29  <wumpus> lol "#10094 37bf0d5 0.14: Clear release notes (MarcoFalke)" I left a meta-PR in
1672017-04-05T10:05:30  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/10094 | 0.14: Clear release notes by MarcoFalke · Pull Request #10094 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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1732017-04-05T10:38:31  <fanquake> Looks alright
1742017-04-05T10:39:13  <fanquake> wumpus will you try push detached sigs tonight? I'll upload my unsigned sigs in a minute.
1752017-04-05T10:41:22  <wumpus> fanquake: that's up to cfields, I think he waits for a few unsigned sigs first
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1802017-04-05T11:03:02  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 1 new commit to 0.14: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/df82ea914f6f569e244ab59ca24e4eea898eb1a9
1812017-04-05T11:03:02  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/0.14 df82ea9 Wladimir J. van der Laan: doc: Remove release note about release notes
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1832017-04-05T11:08:24  <Victorsueca> lol, release-note-inception
1842017-04-05T11:09:02  <wumpus> yeah :-)
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1942017-04-05T12:22:45  <sdaftuar> wumpus: i think the backport of the test in #10144 to the 0.14 branch is broken, due to the api change in prioritisetransaction
1952017-04-05T12:22:47  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/10144 | An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
1962017-04-05T12:23:34  <wumpus> okay
1972017-04-05T12:24:25  <sdaftuar> i'll try to pr a fix shortly
1982017-04-05T12:25:20  <wumpus> yes I only looked whether the test wouldn't start failing after backport
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2002017-04-05T12:25:35  <wumpus> it could be passing wrongly
2012017-04-05T12:25:35  <BlockchainKid> hi
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2032017-04-05T12:27:11  <sdaftuar> wumpus: odd, the test is failing for me locally due to the api change, maybe its an extended test?
2042017-04-05T12:27:45  <sdaftuar> ah, yes its an extended test
2052017-04-05T12:33:17  <wumpus> oh indeed didn't check the extended ones
2062017-04-05T12:34:34  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] sdaftuar opened pull request #10157: [0.14] Fix the mempool_packages.py test (0.14...test-0.14.1rc1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10157
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2182017-04-05T13:32:29  <achow101> weren't there some memory usage improvements in 0.14.1?
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2202017-04-05T13:35:49  <BlueMatt> achow101: for default configs, yes, and slightly reduced in general from 0.14.0, yes?
2212017-04-05T13:43:09  <achow101> Ok. Well I think they should be documented in the release notes
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2362017-04-05T16:22:53  <cfields> I'm working on building/signing rc1. I'm out of town and using my laptop, so it's a bit painful and slower than usual.
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2532017-04-05T17:17:53  <bincap> when writting functional tests in python, we can use .generate to add blocks to test blockchain; and can I add a block with manually set flags, like segwit signalling on/off?
2542017-04-05T17:20:29  <bincap> also, how to set given date of the block generation? I want to test bip148 that rejects blocks that do not signal for segwit activation
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2562017-04-05T17:27:22  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] gmaxwell opened pull request #10158: Add some more release notes for 0.14.1. (0.14...relnote141) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10158
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2752017-04-05T19:57:39  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jnewbery opened pull request #10159: [tests] color test results and sort alphabetically (master...sort_test_results) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10159
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2882017-04-05T21:40:39  <gmaxwell> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2017-April/013996.html
2892017-04-05T21:49:05  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jnewbery opened pull request #10160: [WIP] updatepeer RPC (master...updatepeer) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10160
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2932017-04-05T22:22:47  <jeremyrubin> gmaxwell: I think your asicboost description is backwards?
2942017-04-05T22:23:04  <jeremyrubin> or am I misunderstanding
2952017-04-05T22:23:38  <jeremyrubin> distinct first 64-byte chunks but identical 16-byte
2962017-04-05T22:25:50  <jeremyrubin> Oh maybe I'm misunderstanding how asicboost works?
2972017-04-05T22:26:33  <gmaxwell> I think you were misunderstanding, or my explination is unclear.
2982017-04-05T22:27:30  <gmaxwell> for asic boost you need multiple different first-compression runs for each second compression run.  This allows you to reuse the computation for the message expansion in the second compression run.
2992017-04-05T22:27:55  <jeremyrubin> yeah I'm misunderstanding merkle damgard
3002017-04-05T22:28:05  <gmaxwell> I think part of the reason people haven't taken it seriously as a threat is because it's tricky to understand.
3012017-04-05T22:29:26  <gmaxwell> while talking about it privately for the last month I ran into many experts that kept lapsing into thinking that the collision required 2^32 work, and other misunderstandings.
3022017-04-05T22:31:28  <jeremyrubin> gmaxwell: I think it gets a bit scarier if you don't include any transactions?
3032017-04-05T22:32:10  <jeremyrubin> gmaxwell: Maybe this is related to why ------- is mining empty blocks?
3042017-04-05T22:32:32  <jeremyrubin> gmaxwell: or if you only include stale transactions you control and guarantee won't be spent in a prior block
3052017-04-05T22:33:32  <jeremyrubin> gmaxwell: this would suggest your solution of including header hash is worth it
3062017-04-05T22:36:51  <gmaxwell> My goal here is only to block the form which is incompatible with protocol improvements like segwit that add additional per transaction data.  I leave blocking asicboost more generally an open question.  A miner could mine empty blocks too, but they'll at least be disadvantaged by the loss of fee income-- so, personally, I feel that is largely self correcting.
3072017-04-05T22:37:45  <jeremyrubin> I see; I think that's reasonable.
3082017-04-05T22:38:33  <jeremyrubin> You don't nescessarily lose that much fee though this way, I'd point out. You can just mine things closer to the bottom which are unlikely to get mined.
3092017-04-05T22:39:10  <jeremyrubin> You can also mask it by mining a full block with only your transactions in it.
3102017-04-05T22:40:53  <Taek> even masked, you are still disadvantaged
3112017-04-05T22:42:08  <jeremyrubin> Taek: yeah, but you get a huge benefit, because your set of valid RHS commitments goes up over time and only decreases (by 1) when you mine
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3152017-04-05T23:02:55  <gmaxwell> jeremyrubin: if you can't do the left/right split trick you have to do a log(txn) hashes for each try.
3162017-04-05T23:03:38  <gmaxwell> In any case: the goal, again, isn't to stop asicboost but to stop forms that are incompatible with protocol extensions. I believe anything that works after this bip works just as well with segwit and friends.
3172017-04-05T23:04:14  <gmaxwell> I expect other people to make proposals to block asicboost more completely (in fact, I kind of cut off private discussion along these lines with this proposal-- because I think it's critical to seperate the concerns)
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3202017-04-05T23:32:50  <btcdrak> There's a writeup of the process https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/JjfwEylh/
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