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492017-05-10T04:21:04 <jl2012> does --prematurewitness work on mainnet?
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512017-05-10T04:22:33 <jl2012> i think it works.
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922017-05-10T05:43:02 <wumpus> MarcoFalke: thanks for letting me know, I'll have a look what went wrong
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1042017-05-10T06:13:01 <wumpus> doxygen shoould be up to date again
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1272017-05-10T09:24:51 <kallewoof> Is there a neat and tidy way to store metadata on a per address (or key) basis? CKeyMetadata does not seem to ever be updated, and CAddressBookData seems to be about accounts not addresses (at least "name" is the account name).
1282017-05-10T09:25:05 <kallewoof> Since accounts are about to be thrown out I don't really wanna touch the latter.
1292017-05-10T09:26:33 <kallewoof> And besides, I can't tell how persistent either of them are. I don't want the data to vanish suddenly.
1302017-05-10T09:33:37 <wumpus> kallewoof: DestData
1312017-05-10T09:33:59 <wumpus> it stores data on per-address/destination basis
1322017-05-10T09:34:14 <wumpus> this is used to store metadata such as payment requests
1332017-05-10T09:35:44 <kallewoof> wumpus: Ahh, thanks!
1342017-05-10T09:38:06 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] madeo opened pull request #10380: [doc] Removing comments about dirty entries on txmempool (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10380
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1412017-05-10T10:39:22 <jl2012> Want to double check, according to BIP9, height of the first block with new rules is divisible by 2016?
1422017-05-10T10:39:53 <jl2012> (Not 1 before or after?)
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1732017-05-10T15:14:34 <wumpus> jl2012: AFAIK that is correct
1742017-05-10T15:17:06 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 6 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/4b766fcdd4ca...a26280bc1415
1752017-05-10T15:17:07 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 7d92c6f fanquake: [depends] Latest config.guess and config.sub
1762017-05-10T15:17:07 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master d78269a fanquake: [depends] Boost 1.64.0
1772017-05-10T15:17:08 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master daeb767 fanquake: [depends] libevent 2.1.8-stable
1782017-05-10T15:17:35 <jl2012> wumpus: thanks. Say it activates at 201600, if I want to make sure my tx won't get in an earlier block, the nLockTIme should be 201599, right?
1792017-05-10T15:17:44 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #10325: 0.15.0 Depends Updates (master...depends-0-15-0) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10325
1802017-05-10T15:22:23 <wumpus> yes
1812017-05-10T15:22:53 <wumpus> eh I'm not entirely sure actually if nLockTime would need to be 201600 or 201599
1822017-05-10T15:24:36 <wumpus> I think 201599 but not 100% sure
1832017-05-10T15:29:23 <SopaXorzTaker> wait
1842017-05-10T15:29:34 <SopaXorzTaker> AntPool mine nearly empty blocks for their advantage
1852017-05-10T15:29:45 <SopaXorzTaker> why can't we implement proof-of-UTXO
1862017-05-10T15:30:22 <SopaXorzTaker> e.g. a block must include at least len(UTXO)/n transactions or 1 MB of them, either is smaller
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1942017-05-10T16:05:46 <instagibbs> SopaXorzTaker, this is more for #bitcoin, as it's not short-term development
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1962017-05-10T16:16:08 <SopaXorzTaker> instagibbs, this is about the core, though
1972017-05-10T16:16:30 <SopaXorzTaker> how do I write a BIP? *excited*
1982017-05-10T16:18:02 <sipa> SopaXorzTaker: this idea gets proposed about once per month for the past few years. it's utterly broken, as miners can just stuff their blocks with their own transactions
1992017-05-10T16:18:20 <sipa> SopaXorzTaker: and bitcoin development is not just bitcoin core development
2002017-05-10T16:18:55 <SopaXorzTaker> hmm
2012017-05-10T16:19:40 <SopaXorzTaker> maybe a subreward based on the coin age (since the input TX)?
2022017-05-10T16:19:56 <sipa> take it elsewhere, sorry
2032017-05-10T16:20:16 <SopaXorzTaker> no problem, I understand this is not the right place
2042017-05-10T16:20:17 <sipa> we're developing software here, not wonder idly about tweaks to the consensus protocol
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2072017-05-10T16:21:19 <sipa> discussions like this belong on the mailing list, where they're open for everyone
2082017-05-10T16:24:07 <sipa> but again, such ideas really don't work
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2242017-05-10T17:49:35 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] paveljanik opened pull request #10381: Shadowing is not enabled by default, update doc accordingly (master...20170510_Wshadow_not_enabled_by_default) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10381
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2392017-05-10T18:45:59 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Casimir1904 opened pull request #10382: test (master...release) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10382
2402017-05-10T18:46:15 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Casimir1904 closed pull request #10382: test (master...release) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10382
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2492017-05-10T19:54:19 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jnewbery opened pull request #10383: [logging] log system time and mock time (master...log_mocktime) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10383
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2542017-05-10T20:12:14 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jonasschnelli opened pull request #10384: Make sure we disable NODE_BLOOM when pruning is enabled (master...2017/05/prune_bloom) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10384
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2562017-05-10T20:15:48 <jonasschnelli> BlueMatt: but in prune, we disable NODE_NETWORK but *NOT* NODE_BLOOM
2572017-05-10T20:15:59 <jonasschnelli> So.. in prune mode, we can't offer bloom filtering..
2582017-05-10T20:16:03 <BlueMatt> that is correct
2592017-05-10T20:16:14 <BlueMatt> we can bloom in prune mode, though
2602017-05-10T20:16:21 <jonasschnelli> Not reliable...
2612017-05-10T20:16:27 <BlueMatt> we will still filter mempool requests and can provide filtered access to recent blocks
2622017-05-10T20:16:35 <BlueMatt> what do you mean not reliably? we still provide the last few blocks
2632017-05-10T20:16:38 <BlueMatt> and mempool
2642017-05-10T20:17:07 <jonasschnelli> You argument would also say that we can serve "blocks"...
2652017-05-10T20:17:16 <BlueMatt> hmm?
2662017-05-10T20:17:27 <sipa> NODE_NETWORK indicates we can serve blocks
2672017-05-10T20:17:32 <Eliel_> you might not be able to provide all transaction history, but you'll be able to provide all the data the light node needs to make transactions.
2682017-05-10T20:17:36 <sipa> NODE_BLOOM indicates we can filter whatever is served
2692017-05-10T20:17:39 <BlueMatt> sipa: in this case !NODE_NETWORK
2702017-05-10T20:17:42 <jonasschnelli> If we can't server blocks we can't filter them
2712017-05-10T20:17:48 <sipa> jonasschnelli: yes, so?
2722017-05-10T20:18:02 <BlueMatt> i mean maybe the correct response is to add the new recent blocks serve bits
2732017-05-10T20:18:04 <sipa> NODE_BLOOM does not mean "i provide access to all historical blocks"
2742017-05-10T20:18:07 <BlueMatt> and then we can do those | NODE_BLOOM
2752017-05-10T20:18:33 <jonasschnelli> sipa: hmm.. okay. I see your point.
2762017-05-10T20:19:13 <jonasschnelli> I was misinterpreting NODE_BLOOM
2772017-05-10T20:19:23 <BlueMatt> jonasschnelli: proposed BIP text updates? :p
2782017-05-10T20:19:49 <sipa> jonasschnelli: well it can be clarified in the BIP i guess
2792017-05-10T20:19:56 <jonasschnelli> Na... I think it's good.
2802017-05-10T20:19:56 <sipa> jonasschnelli: but it's the most useful interpretation
2812017-05-10T20:20:08 <sipa> independent bits for independent features
2822017-05-10T20:20:15 <BlueMatt> jonasschnelli: misunderstandings are usually an indication that the BIP text needs to be clarified
2832017-05-10T20:20:26 <BlueMatt> just because you can go back and read it a different way isnt a useful outcome :p
2842017-05-10T20:20:27 <jonasschnelli> I was a bit confused about the use case NODE_BLOOM & ~NODE_NETWORK...
2852017-05-10T20:20:36 <BlueMatt> great, should be clarified! :p
2862017-05-10T20:20:38 <sipa> jonasschnelli: there is likely none
2872017-05-10T20:20:45 <jonasschnelli> mempool filtering maybe
2882017-05-10T20:20:57 <sipa> jonasschnelli: but there likely will be a use case for NODE_BLOOM & NODE_LAST_WEEK_BLOCKS
2892017-05-10T20:21:03 <sipa> s/&/|/
2902017-05-10T20:21:13 <BlueMatt> or (NODE_BLOOM & ~NODE_NETWORK) | SERVES_RECENT_BLOCKS
2912017-05-10T20:21:19 <jonasschnelli> Yes... i was stumbled over this during my NODE_NETWORK_LIMITED work
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2932017-05-10T20:22:43 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jonasschnelli closed pull request #10384: Make sure we disable NODE_BLOOM when pruning is enabled (master...2017/05/prune_bloom) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10384
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3052017-05-10T21:40:21 <BlueMatt> sipa: have you seen http://www.agner.org/optimize/optimizing_cpp.pdf ?
3062017-05-10T21:41:23 <BlueMatt> figured you might be curious given your occasional overoptimization tendancies :p
3072017-05-10T21:42:15 <sipa> how do you mean 'occasional'? ;)
3082017-05-10T21:42:39 <BlueMatt> guy also has a everything-you-didnt-want-to-know-about-x86-internals pdf on the same site
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3112017-05-10T21:48:53 <gmaxwell> yea, his figures are pretty good.
3122017-05-10T21:49:44 <TD-Linux> yes, his microarchitecture guides and instruction cycle PDFs are the only such resource out there if you're doing assembly
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3282017-05-10T23:22:31 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] pinheadmz opened pull request #10385: RPC: getblock returns coinbase scriptsig (master...cbtext) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10385
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