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122017-08-01T01:10:12 <jnewbery> sipa: I've updated the pre-0.8 to 0.15 upgrade advice here: https://github.com/bitcoin-core/bitcoin-devwiki/wiki/0.15.0-Release-notes/6b2669777228f8b0f4059ca3ba1010041e34c4b3
132017-08-01T01:10:26 <sipa> jnewbery: i saw
142017-08-01T01:10:30 <jnewbery> Block file upgrade code removed here: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/9822
152017-08-01T01:12:06 <jnewbery> It's a bit pedantic - probably no-one is running pre-0.8 anymore. I have a slight preference to include the upgrade advice, but won't be too upset if other people vote to remove it.
162017-08-01T01:15:14 <sipa> oh, it was actually removed!
172017-08-01T01:15:15 <sipa> ok
182017-08-01T01:15:28 <sipa> jnewbery: i've also changed all v0.15 notation into 'version' or 'Bitcoin Core'
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202017-08-01T01:24:00 <jnewbery> I saw. Looks good to me.
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262017-08-01T01:50:58 <Emcy_> 'On Windows, do not forget to uninstall all earlier versions of the Bitcoin client first.' Is this really *necessary*. No one ever does this
272017-08-01T01:51:05 <Emcy_> over the top installs happen
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322017-08-01T02:10:43 <luke-jr> Emcy_: I have no idea, but we said that in older versions
332017-08-01T02:10:51 <luke-jr> Emcy_: if you can confirm it isn't needed, maybe it can be removed
342017-08-01T02:12:22 <Emcy_> it seems to be one of those fluff recommendations that windows software makes, like 'reboot your machine after install' as if anyone really does that.
352017-08-01T02:12:50 <Emcy_> If its just copying new files over the top i dont see why its necessary. Ill try it when 0.15 comes out
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392017-08-01T02:23:55 <theymos> I've never given the advice to uninstall first. In fact, that could conceivably cause problems because uninstalling sometimes creates a one-time run-at-boot task which removes some files that the uninstaller couldn't immediately remove.
402017-08-01T02:24:19 <theymos> (Speaking generally here -- I've never looked at the Bitcoin Core installer.)
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422017-08-01T02:31:45 <Emcy_> thats true
432017-08-01T02:32:26 <Emcy_> tahts what it says in those draft rls notes though, twice in fact and the second time makes it sound like not-boilerplate
442017-08-01T02:32:33 <Emcy_> thats why i asked
452017-08-01T02:35:18 <theymos> Old versions recommended installing over the old one: https://bitcoin.org/en/release/v0.12.0
462017-08-01T02:35:39 <theymos> The uninstall note must've been added recently. Maybe there's some reason for it, or maybe it was added in error.
472017-08-01T02:39:49 <gmaxwell> I've always told people to overinstall.
482017-08-01T02:40:09 <gmaxwell> I would be kinda worried about someone managing to delete their chain or wallet if I instructed them to remove!
492017-08-01T02:41:15 <gmaxwell> might be useful to investigate the history to see if there was a reason or if it was a copyediting error.
502017-08-01T02:41:46 <gmaxwell> generally I'm super scared about telling users to remove or delete anything; lest the next thing I see from them was "okay, I used the system recovery DVD"
512017-08-01T02:43:40 <Emcy_> lol
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582017-08-01T03:07:38 <luke-jr> Emcy_: when 0.15 comes out, it will be too late to change..
592017-08-01T03:08:12 <luke-jr> theymos: I copied the uninstall bit from 0.8 or 0.9 IIRC
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612017-08-01T03:09:46 <luke-jr> where are we at with a 0.14.3 with BIP148? I'm going to miss next meeting most likely again :/
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902017-08-01T06:31:45 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] coblee opened pull request #10968: Add instructions for parallel gitian builds. (master...coblee_multi_core) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10968
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932017-08-01T06:39:35 <BitMEX_Wally> There is a chainsplit in testnet and my 14.1 node is refusing to follow the longest chain after I ran invalidateblock on the short chain
942017-08-01T06:39:54 <BitMEX_Wally> getchaintips shows the longest chain as 'headers-only'
952017-08-01T06:42:13 <arubi> which block is that BitMEX_Wally ?
962017-08-01T06:42:31 <BitMEX_Wally> {
972017-08-01T06:42:31 <BitMEX_Wally> "height": 1155846,
982017-08-01T06:42:31 <BitMEX_Wally> "hash": "00000000c164f6ac32ee23d104a81d7308d23b7a54745b4d613442c8a6c6ee1e",
992017-08-01T06:42:33 <BitMEX_Wally> "branchlen": 41,
1002017-08-01T06:42:35 <BitMEX_Wally> "status": "headers-only"
1012017-08-01T06:42:37 <BitMEX_Wally> },
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1042017-08-01T06:44:15 <arubi> I have it too
1052017-08-01T06:45:17 <arubi> well, if the node doesn't have the blocks then it can't change to the other chain. maybe someone testing lite wallets?
1062017-08-01T06:46:19 <BitMEX_Wally> My other node is following that chain
1072017-08-01T06:46:22 <BitMEX_Wally> So are block explorers: https://live.blockcypher.com/btc-testnet/
1082017-08-01T06:46:46 <gmaxwell> it's really common for the testnet chain with the most work to have fewer blocks FWIW.
1092017-08-01T06:46:51 <BitMEX_Wally> So how do I get my node to download those blocks? It is currently stuck on 1155805 / 00000000000005757375cdb666a319cf6758d54af7a19da42a96a0551f342d6b and not updating
1102017-08-01T06:47:09 <BitMEX_Wally> This chain has the most work as far as I can tell
1112017-08-01T06:47:20 <BitMEX_Wally> height=1155846 log2_work=69.338015
1122017-08-01T06:47:37 <gmaxwell> BitMEX_Wally: run getblockchainfo to see how much work you have in useful units
1132017-08-01T06:47:43 <gmaxwell> "chainwork": "000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000028707f523ddd5abd07",
1142017-08-01T06:48:17 <BitMEX_Wally> "chain": "test",
1152017-08-01T06:48:17 <BitMEX_Wally> "blocks": 1155805,
1162017-08-01T06:48:17 <BitMEX_Wally> "headers": 1155846,
1172017-08-01T06:48:19 <BitMEX_Wally> "bestblockhash": "00000000000005757375cdb666a319cf6758d54af7a19da42a96a0551f342d6b",
1182017-08-01T06:48:21 <BitMEX_Wally> "difficulty": 2597896.746553252,
1192017-08-01T06:48:23 <BitMEX_Wally> "mediantime": 1501547517,
1202017-08-01T06:48:25 <BitMEX_Wally> "verificationprogress": 0.9997853208317297,
1212017-08-01T06:48:27 <BitMEX_Wally> "chainwork": "0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000286d17360b5491b2c3",
1222017-08-01T06:48:29 <BitMEX_Wally> "pruned": false,
1232017-08-01T06:48:31 <BitMEX_Wally> "softforks": [
1242017-08-01T06:48:55 <gmaxwell> okay thats less work than I have. Do you see any invalid in getchaintips or your debug log?
1252017-08-01T06:50:40 <BitMEX_Wally> [
1262017-08-01T06:50:40 <BitMEX_Wally> {
1272017-08-01T06:50:40 <BitMEX_Wally> "height": 1155846,
1282017-08-01T06:50:41 <BitMEX_Wally> "hash": "00000000c164f6ac32ee23d104a81d7308d23b7a54745b4d613442c8a6c6ee1e",
1292017-08-01T06:50:43 <BitMEX_Wally> "branchlen": 41,
1302017-08-01T06:50:45 <BitMEX_Wally> "status": "headers-only"
1312017-08-01T06:50:47 <BitMEX_Wally> },
1322017-08-01T06:50:49 <BitMEX_Wally> {
1332017-08-01T06:50:51 <BitMEX_Wally> "height": 1155831,
1342017-08-01T06:50:53 <BitMEX_Wally> "hash": "000000000000066cd029ad78432f1c8d30e24459e407cc8f834a4b251bd83640",
1352017-08-01T06:50:55 <BitMEX_Wally> "branchlen": 26,
1362017-08-01T06:50:57 <BitMEX_Wally> "status": "invalid"
1372017-08-01T06:50:59 <BitMEX_Wally> },
1382017-08-01T06:51:01 <BitMEX_Wally> {
1392017-08-01T06:51:03 <BitMEX_Wally> "height": 1155807,
1402017-08-01T06:51:05 <BitMEX_Wally> "hash": "0000000000014b01c3ae388401c8c2d0945ec953f695ea50d357c7bf8bef2279",
1412017-08-01T06:51:07 <BitMEX_Wally> "branchlen": 2,
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1432017-08-01T06:51:09 <BitMEX_Wally> "status": "invalid"
1442017-08-01T06:51:11 <BitMEX_Wally> },
1452017-08-01T06:51:13 <BitMEX_Wally> {
1462017-08-01T06:51:15 <BitMEX_Wally> "height": 1155805,
1472017-08-01T06:51:16 <sipa> please don't copy-paste more than 3 lines
1482017-08-01T06:51:17 <BitMEX_Wally> "hash": "00000000000005757375cdb666a319cf6758d54af7a19da42a96a0551f342d6b",
1492017-08-01T06:51:19 <BitMEX_Wally> "branchlen": 0,
1502017-08-01T06:51:21 <BitMEX_Wally> "status": "active"
1512017-08-01T06:51:23 <BitMEX_Wally> },
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1532017-08-01T06:51:30 <gmaxwell> 000000000000066cd029ad78432f1c8d30e24459e407cc8f834a4b251bd83640 is in my best chain here...
1542017-08-01T06:51:57 <gmaxwell> BitMEX_Wally: so now you need to look in your debug.log to see why 000000000000066cd029ad78432f1c8d30e24459e407cc8f834a4b251bd83640 was rejected as invalid.
1552017-08-01T06:52:11 <BitMEX_Wally> 1155846 / 00000000c164f6ac32ee23d104a81d7308d23b7a54745b4d613442c8a6c6ee1e has "chainwork": "00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000002872d1f10daeee43fa",
1562017-08-01T06:52:13 <gmaxwell> look at debug.log and search for 000000000000066cd029ad78432f1c8d30e24459e407cc8f834a4b251bd83640
1572017-08-01T06:52:27 <BitMEX_Wally> I marked 000000000000066cd029ad78432f1c8d30e24459e407cc8f834a4b251bd83640 as invalid because the other chain had more work
1582017-08-01T06:53:09 <sipa> you can undo invalidateblock using reconsiderblock
1592017-08-01T06:53:29 <BitMEX_Wally> Yeah, but then I would be on chain 1155831 again, which is not most work?
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1612017-08-01T06:55:14 <gmaxwell> my nodes have never seen 00000000c164f6ac32ee23d104a81d7308d23b7a54745b4d613442c8a6c6ee1e
1622017-08-01T06:55:47 <BitMEX_Wally> 2017-08-01 06:34:13 UpdateTip: new best=00000000c164f6ac32ee23d104a81d7308d23b7a54745b4d613442c8a6c6ee1e height=1155846 log2_work=69.338015 tx=14687012 date=2017-08-01 06:34:10 progress=1.000000 cache=0.7MiB(1148tx)
1632017-08-01T06:55:48 <BitMEX_Wally> 2017-08-01 05:47:57 UpdateTip: new best=000000000000066cd029ad78432f1c8d30e24459e407cc8f834a4b251bd83640 height=1155831 version=0x20000000 log2_work=69.337605 tx=14686762 date='2017-08-01 05:47:46' progress=1.000000 cache=0.9MiB(2990tx)
1642017-08-01T06:55:52 <BitMEX_Wally> These are my 2 nodes
1652017-08-01T06:56:06 <BitMEX_Wally> The longest one definitely has more work
1662017-08-01T06:56:46 <sipa> are they running the same software?
1672017-08-01T06:56:49 <BitMEX_Wally> No
1682017-08-01T06:57:15 <sipa> what are they running?
1692017-08-01T06:57:19 <BitMEX_Wally> First one (longest) is running v0.12.1
1702017-08-01T06:57:23 <gmaxwell> gonna guess the more work one is probably segwit invalid.
1712017-08-01T06:57:29 <BitMEX_Wally> Ahh
1722017-08-01T06:57:33 <sipa> seems likely, yes
1732017-08-01T06:57:43 <gmaxwell> oh I just see in your chaintips that you have two invalid blocks there.
1742017-08-01T06:57:44 <BitMEX_Wally> Why are people still mining it *sigh*
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1772017-08-01T07:00:11 <gmaxwell> I see smartbits explorer is consistent with my nodes.
1782017-08-01T07:00:34 <gmaxwell> and I know their explorer is backed by a node that actually verifies things.
1792017-08-01T07:02:39 <BitMEX_Wally> Ok so I will tell my other node to invalidate those blocks
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1812017-08-01T07:03:38 <BitMEX_Wally> Then I will put it behind another SegWit ndoe
1822017-08-01T07:04:01 <gmaxwell> sounds like a good idea.
1832017-08-01T07:05:38 <BitMEX_Wally> Ok that worked. Sorry to bother you Greg
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1852017-08-01T07:07:16 <gmaxwell> Don't be. Always feel free to bring concerns like this here!
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2282017-08-01T10:08:50 <wumpus> MarcoFalke: sipa: certs should be renewed, thanks for the reminder
2292017-08-01T10:15:05 <wumpus> I feel kind of uncomfortable runinng certbot as root automatically in a crontab, though for availablility it'd probably be a good idea
2302017-08-01T10:15:25 <wumpus> manually babysitting servers in timely manner is not something I'm good at
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2332017-08-01T10:26:33 <sam_c> i don't like the idea either
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2392017-08-01T10:59:17 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 6 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/42307c4bf363...bd924241e7dc
2402017-08-01T10:59:17 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master eda888e Matt Corallo: Fix some LoadChainTip-related init-order bugs....
2412017-08-01T10:59:18 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master b0f3249 Matt Corallo: More user-friendly error message if UTXO DB runs ahead of block DB...
2422017-08-01T10:59:18 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master ff3a219 Matt Corallo: Call RewindBlockIndex even if we're about to run -reindex-chainstate...
2432017-08-01T10:59:46 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #10758: Fix some chainstate-init-order bugs. (master...2014-07-nonatomic-flush-fixes) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10758
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2502017-08-01T11:08:16 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/bd924241e7dc...754aa02b8a72
2512017-08-01T11:08:17 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master efeb273 Pieter Wuille: Force on-the-fly compaction during pertxout upgrade
2522017-08-01T11:08:17 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 754aa02 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #10526: Force on-the-fly compaction during pertxout upgrade...
2532017-08-01T11:08:37 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #10526: Force on-the-fly compaction during pertxout upgrade (master...compactrange) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10526
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2682017-08-01T12:04:35 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] practicalswift opened pull request #10969: Declare single-argument (non-converting) constructors "explicit" (master...explicit) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10969
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2752017-08-01T12:27:39 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/754aa02b8a72...f66c59650527
2762017-08-01T12:27:39 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master e222dc2 Andrew Chow: Replace ismine with producesignature check in witnessifier...
2772017-08-01T12:27:39 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master f66c596 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #10788: [RPC] Fix addwitnessaddress by replacing ismine with producesignature...
2782017-08-01T12:28:05 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #10788: [RPC] Fix addwitnessaddress by replacing ismine with producesignature (master...fix-addwitnessaddress) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10788
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3872017-08-01T18:54:37 <gmaxwell> https://people.xiph.org/~greg/banlist.cli.txt
3882017-08-01T18:54:41 <gmaxwell> https://people.xiph.org/~greg/banlist.gui.txt
3892017-08-01T18:56:55 <gmaxwell> Updated my banned node list.
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4412017-08-01T21:27:38 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] theuni opened pull request #10971: build: fix missing warnings and sse42 in depends builds (master...fix-config-override) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10971
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4432017-08-01T21:37:42 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] practicalswift opened pull request #10972: Check return value of addr.GetKeyID(keyid) on custom change address change (master...GetKeyID-assertion) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10972
4442017-08-01T21:40:37 <earlz> Has anyone successfully cross-compiled Bitcoin Core for a raspberry pi? If so, is that process documented somewhere?
4452017-08-01T21:40:57 <earlz> I saw one tutorial on how to compile it on-device, but I'd rather spend less than 1 day compiling
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4482017-08-01T21:48:11 <sipa> earlz: more, there are release binaries for ARM
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4532017-08-01T22:17:39 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ryanofsky opened pull request #10973: WIP: Add IPC layer between node and wallet (master...pr/wipc-sep) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10973
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4572017-08-01T22:31:49 <earlz> sipa: how are those made though? Gitian?
4582017-08-01T22:32:34 <cfields> yes
4592017-08-01T22:35:03 <earlz> ah
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