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52017-09-12T00:49:35 <BlueMatt> grrrr why is practicalswift not in the contributors list so I can auto-complete his long-ass name
62017-09-12T00:50:19 <luke-jr> that would be too ⦠practical
72017-09-12T00:50:20 * luke-jr hides
82017-09-12T00:51:35 <BlueMatt> lol, oh so punny
92017-09-12T00:51:54 * sipa hoped:
102017-09-12T00:52:01 <sipa> * luke-jr hides swiftly
112017-09-12T00:56:59 <gmaxwell> luke-jr: you live!
122017-09-12T00:57:38 <BlueMatt> (and have internet)
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142017-09-12T00:57:58 <BlueMatt> lol errrr maybe not
152017-09-12T00:58:29 <kallewoof> he made puns, so he seems to be doing okay. :) i dont think i'd be punning if i was in trouble.
162017-09-12T00:58:57 <BlueMatt> kallewoof: well he ping-timeout'd, so at least the internet part may not be so stable :p
172017-09-12T01:00:04 <kallewoof> he'll be okay. he was trained in the art of no internet at tokyo core dev when he was without his computer for basically an entire day.
182017-09-12T01:00:13 <BlueMatt> :O
192017-09-12T01:00:32 <kallewoof> yeah. *shudders*
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212017-09-12T01:07:51 <kallewoof> Running a modified master but I just ran into EXCEPTION: 15dbwrapper_error and Database corrupted abd Corruption: not an sstable (bad magic number) etc. I can provide access to the machine with the node if someone feels intrigued by this, or I will just try to fix it. sipa etc?
222017-09-12T01:08:04 <sipa> meshcollider: you should be able to restart travis jobs now
232017-09-12T01:08:18 <kallewoof> ^Cing gave Error: Error: A fatal internal error occurred, see debug.log for details a few times.
242017-09-12T01:08:36 <sipa> kallewoof: very little i can do...
252017-09-12T01:08:55 <kallewoof> Okay. Seemed like a nice debugging opportunity, but ah well.
262017-09-12T01:09:18 <sipa> i'd like to hear about the circumstances that led to the corruption though
272017-09-12T01:09:39 <kallewoof> Node crashed due to my code (which was logging stuff to a file).
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292017-09-12T01:10:46 <kallewoof> It was also running from gdb. I suspect that may have been a problem too.
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312017-09-12T01:11:05 <sipa> ouch.
322017-09-12T01:11:12 <sipa> that shouldn't cause corruption
332017-09-12T01:11:14 <kallewoof> To clarify, I ran in gdb, hit the crash, killed process, and then restarted node and it started spewing these.
342017-09-12T01:11:23 <kallewoof> My kill may have caused it?
352017-09-12T01:11:33 <sipa> killing a process shouldn't cause db corruption
362017-09-12T01:13:57 <kallewoof> Yeah, I've done it all the time. I didn't really do anything else noteworthy.
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382017-09-12T01:15:05 <kallewoof> As a sidenote, despite the "see debug.log for details" message, there was nothing in the debug.log related to this.
392017-09-12T01:16:56 <sipa> wow, that must be very old, and referring to bdb's debug log?
402017-09-12T01:18:39 <kallewoof> Ohhh..
412017-09-12T01:19:32 <sipa> or perhaps not
422017-09-12T01:19:49 <kallewoof> It's in AbortNode in validation.cpp so seems to be about bitcoin, yeah.
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442017-09-12T01:22:49 <kallewoof> This is on a digital ocean instance, btw, which I assume us running everything RAIDed, so an actual disk corruption doesn't sound likely.
452017-09-12T01:36:25 <sipa> that's also irrelevant; it's not the OS or the hardware that crashed, just a process
462017-09-12T01:38:00 <kallewoof> If an actual disk error (bad block/sector/etc) was present surely it could cause a corruption in the db
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492017-09-12T01:52:16 <kallewoof> In case someone else has the issue, restarting the node actually solved it on my side.
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832017-09-12T06:08:28 <sipa> should the "this wallet is segwit" flag be a version number or a separate key in the wallet?
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1002017-09-12T07:30:22 <sipa> wumpus morcos sdaftuar BlueMatt jonasschnelli achow101 ^
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1022017-09-12T07:45:03 <MarcoFalke> sipa: If it is a new version, we'd have to backport the usehd change to 0.15.1. Is that desired?
1032017-09-12T07:46:18 <sipa> MarcoFalke: if it's not a new version, downgrading to 0.15.0 may cause lost funds
1042017-09-12T07:47:27 <sipa> (not disagreeing with you, but there are issues both ways - i'm just wondering whether this was discussed already)
1052017-09-12T07:47:54 <MarcoFalke> right. So there will only be segwit HD wallets
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1072017-09-12T07:58:47 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #11305: [doc] Update release notes and manpages for 0.16 (master...Mf1709-doc016) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11305
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1312017-09-12T10:26:13 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] danra opened pull request #11306: Refactor: Move core files from src root to src/core and improve inclu⦠(master...refactor/core-files) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11306
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1332017-09-12T10:50:08 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #11307: wallet: Display non-HD error on first run (master...Mf1709-walletHDfirst) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11307
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1402017-09-12T11:36:36 <morcos> sipa: Why would it cause funds loss? Isn't it adding the segwit scrips to the wallet, which would be recognized by lower versions of wallets?
1412017-09-12T11:37:04 <morcos> Yes old backups wouldn't work, but that's true for 0.15.1 as well
1422017-09-12T11:37:50 <morcos> I thought the idea was to fix that with 0.16.0 by essentially tripling every existing key in the wallet (for all the segwit scripts)
1432017-09-12T11:39:58 <morcos> I think it would be helpful to write up an issue the explains the whole 0.15.1 wallet plan in one place (in english) and the 0.16.0 wallet plan. just so we can think through everything now
1442017-09-12T11:42:43 <meshcollider> morcos: by tripling, do you mean one P2PKH, one P2SH and one BIP173?
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1462017-09-12T11:43:30 <meshcollider> +1 for doing a write up
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1482017-09-12T11:48:06 <morcos> yes, P2SH wrapped segwit script for the middle one.. (and that's not exactly right, b/c i think we might add more than P2PKH for the legacy, but thats the idea)
1492017-09-12T11:53:09 <meshcollider> so will P2SH-P2WPKH will be treated identically to the same address in P2PKH from the users perspective
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1532017-09-12T11:59:29 <morcos> meshcollider: the goal is no. you should not get paid at an address you did not give out. so if you give out a P2PKH, then that is how you should be paid and no one should be trying to wrap that up in some script or program and paying you to it
1542017-09-12T12:00:16 <morcos> but for backwards compatibility with the way 0.15.0 and previous wallets worked, once we implement that functionality, then on upgrade your wallet will treat it as if you've given out all 3 variations for pre existing keys
1552017-09-12T12:00:25 <morcos> but future keys will only be used for 1 variation
1562017-09-12T12:01:35 <morcos> but we need the writeup to make sure it all makes sense... seems like sipa was assuming that some level of upgrade is happening at 0.15.1 , but i thought there was no upgrade until 0.16.0, and that we weren't marking 0.15.1 wallets as special
1572017-09-12T12:01:54 <morcos> other than that we'd be adding segwit addresses to them by default
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1782017-09-12T13:48:09 <BlueMatt> sipa: yea, what morcos said...I didnt think we were adding a "this wallet is segwit" flag for 0.15.1
1792017-09-12T13:48:22 <BlueMatt> (and then a version bump in 16ish when we do a second hd split
1802017-09-12T13:48:22 <BlueMatt> )
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2022017-09-12T14:30:34 <RealM9> What? ae you going to release 0.15.1 with SW address support?
2032017-09-12T14:30:40 <RealM9> Are*
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2072017-09-12T14:38:50 <MarcoFalke> jnewbery: I don't think we should be encouraging refactoring pulls that change all apostrophes into quotation marks in python code
2082017-09-12T14:39:05 <MarcoFalke> re #11291
2092017-09-12T14:39:07 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11291 | Fix PEP8 warnings about formatting by dongsam · Pull Request #11291 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
2102017-09-12T14:40:11 <MarcoFalke> Also, we don't bulk-rename vars to snake_case in python.
2112017-09-12T14:40:26 <MarcoFalke> All of this is a pain to review
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2222017-09-12T15:25:47 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #11308: [qa] zapwallettxes: Wait up to 3s for mempool reload (master...Mf1709-qaZap3s) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11308
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2252017-09-12T15:35:19 <BlueMatt> does anyone have numbers on transaction confirmation for rbf replacement txn? I have a feeling it might be time to start tracking those in fee estimation
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2352017-09-12T16:59:50 <jnewbery> MarcoFalke : sure. I didn't push back because the PR also does the useful job of updating the os.path calls in the same file. I'm not too concerned about accepting those changes but saying 'in general we don't accept style-only PRs', but if you want to take a harder line I think that's also fine.
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2382017-09-12T17:02:35 <MarcoFalke> I am not keen on reviewing that. If you feel like making sure that all the refactoring parts preserve functionality 100%, go ahead. I am not aware of a good way to do that when it is not a scripted diff. And a scripted diff is overkill for those formatting changes
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2412017-09-12T17:08:42 <jnewbery> MarcoFalke : can you merge #11230 ? dbcrash.py is still failing
2422017-09-12T17:08:43 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11230 | [tests] fixup dbcrash interaction with add_nodes() by jnewbery · Pull Request #11230 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
2432017-09-12T17:08:45 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] morcos opened pull request #11309: Minor cleanups for AcceptToMemoryPool (master...ATMP_cleanup) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11309
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2462017-09-12T17:24:56 <MarcoFalke> sure. Thx, somehow missed that
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2492017-09-12T17:30:19 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/b9bceaf1c081...b37cab65c63e
2502017-09-12T17:30:19 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 8fdb6f9 John Newbery: [tests] fixup dbcrash interaction with add_nodes()
2512017-09-12T17:30:20 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master b37cab6 MarcoFalke: Merge #11230: [tests] fixup dbcrash interaction with add_nodes()...
2522017-09-12T17:30:59 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #11230: [tests] fixup dbcrash interaction with add_nodes() (master...fixup_dbcrash) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11230
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2542017-09-12T17:32:17 <jnewbery> MarcoFalke : thanks!
2552017-09-12T17:36:59 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 3 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/b37cab65c63e...c377feaad87f
2562017-09-12T17:37:00 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 24697c4 Wladimir J. van der Laan: rpc: update cli for estimatefee argument rename...
2572017-09-12T17:37:00 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 5acd82d Wladimir J. van der Laan: rpc: make estimatesmartfee argument naming consistent with documentation...
2582017-09-12T17:37:01 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master c377fea MarcoFalke: Merge #11267: rpc: update cli for estimate*fee argument rename...
2592017-09-12T17:37:35 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #11267: rpc: update cli for estimate*fee argument rename (master...2017_09_renamed_estimatefee_arg) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11267
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2622017-09-12T17:47:16 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/c377feaad87f...b148803b181e
2632017-09-12T17:47:17 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master b8d91e0 practicalswift: [Docs] Fix broken Markdown table in dependencies.md. Cleanups....
2642017-09-12T17:47:17 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master b148803 MarcoFalke: Merge #11264: [doc] Fix broken Markdown table in dependencies.md...
2652017-09-12T17:47:54 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #11264: [doc] Fix broken Markdown table in dependencies.md (master...dependencies-capitalization) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11264
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2682017-09-12T18:03:53 <sipa> morcos: right, starting to remember
2692017-09-12T18:04:34 <sipa> morcos: so really all we need is automatically addwitnessifying newly generated addresses (while properly marking them as change, ...)
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2832017-09-12T18:58:54 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] mess110 opened pull request #11310: [tests] Test listwallets RPC (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11310
2842017-09-12T19:01:34 <morcos> sipa: yes, i think. depending on what you mean by properly marking them as change?
2852017-09-12T19:06:38 <sipa> morcos: addwitnessaddress currently always assigns a label to the address, causing it to be treated as non-change
2862017-09-12T19:09:11 <morcos> sipa: right ok, so sometimes you'll do that, and sometimes you won't depending on the path by which we got to that
2872017-09-12T19:10:04 <sipa> right
2882017-09-12T19:11:52 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/b148803b181e...ce829855cfca
2892017-09-12T19:11:53 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 581c411 Kyuntae Ethan Kim: Properly comment about shutdown process in init.cpp file
2902017-09-12T19:11:53 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master ce82985 MarcoFalke: Merge #10691: Trivial: Properly comment about shutdown process in init.cpp file....
2912017-09-12T19:12:18 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #10691: Trivial: Properly comment about shutdown process in init.cpp file. (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10691
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2992017-09-12T19:54:00 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 3 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/ce829855cfca...801dd40666d1
3002017-09-12T19:54:01 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 8d82e13 Luke Dashjr: Travis: Remove bc tool from dependencies
3012017-09-12T19:54:01 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 6d2aac8 Luke Dashjr: Travis: Test build against system libs (& Qt4)
3022017-09-12T19:54:02 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 801dd40 MarcoFalke: Merge #7142: Travis: Test build against system libs (& Qt4)...
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3192017-09-12T21:01:30 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #11311: travis: Revert default datadir check (master...Mf1709-travisDatadirRevert) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11311
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3232017-09-12T21:17:46 <seone> Heya all :)
3242017-09-12T21:19:00 <seone> Though i should join here from time to time, if you mention me to be here on the Translations site xD
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3292017-09-12T21:33:02 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/801dd40666d1...cce94c518a46
3302017-09-12T21:33:02 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa4fad9 MarcoFalke: travis: Revert default datadir check
3312017-09-12T21:33:03 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master cce94c5 MarcoFalke: Merge #11311: travis: Revert default datadir check...
3322017-09-12T21:33:37 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #11311: travis: Revert default datadir check (master...Mf1709-travisDatadirRevert) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11311
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3382017-09-12T21:59:43 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/cce94c518a46...96ac26e56627
3392017-09-12T21:59:44 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fb1f325 Cristian Mircea Messel: Add listwallets RPC test to multiwallet.py
3402017-09-12T21:59:44 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 96ac26e MarcoFalke: Merge #11310: [tests] Test listwallets RPC...
3412017-09-12T22:00:27 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #11310: [tests] Test listwallets RPC (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11310
3422017-09-12T22:02:07 <BlueMatt> OK, 0.15 PPAs are (finally) up...just had to hack in xvfb and backport 11210...
3432017-09-12T22:03:04 <BlueMatt> hmm, no, well x86 builds worked, test_bitcoin-qt still failed on arm :(
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3582017-09-12T23:50:50 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] mess110 opened pull request #11314: Add abortrescan RPC test (master...add-abortrescan-rpc-test) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11314
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