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1122018-01-16T04:27:11 <gmaxwell> sdaftuar: Do you have any idea if your collected transaction flux dataset has any sigops attacks in it?
1132018-01-16T04:28:12 <gmaxwell> sdaftuar: I was thinking it would would be interesting to try some efficient approximations of multidimensional optimization. I have a fairly concrete idea of what I'd like to try.
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1212018-01-16T04:47:00 <jtimon> shouldn't https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11426 have the refactoring label too ?
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1302018-01-16T05:15:33 <gmaxwell> sdaftuar: e.g. lowering the initial sigops lagrangian and having it increase only when the sigops limit is hit. ... though any change in it would require rescoring the whole mempool, I think that could be done infrequently.
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1452018-01-16T06:26:32 <echelon> is anyone working on adding support for boost-1.66.0
1462018-01-16T06:27:19 <gmaxwell> echelon: what isn't compatible?
1472018-01-16T06:27:51 <gmaxwell> We generally prefer to reduce boost dependency, so if there is any incompatiblity that can be resolved by removing boost stuff (and e.g. replacing with C++11 functionality), that would be good.
1482018-01-16T06:28:25 <echelon> gmaxwell: i had the same errors as this guy.. https://gist.github.com/carlocapocasa/5f31ac2bd7c1ce3f09f4fc1474ad2cb3#file-gistfile1-txt-L287-L321
1492018-01-16T06:28:48 <echelon> ah, good to know
1502018-01-16T06:32:41 <sipa> echelon: wasn't that just fixed in master?
1512018-01-16T06:33:38 <echelon> has it? i see that the ticket is still open
1522018-01-16T06:33:41 <echelon> let me check
1532018-01-16T06:34:06 <sipa> #11847
1542018-01-16T06:34:08 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11847 | Make boost::multi_index comparators const by sdaftuar · Pull Request #11847 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
1552018-01-16T06:34:50 <echelon> ah ok, i guess this can be closed as well then https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/12116
1562018-01-16T06:34:54 <sipa> and issue #11837 is closed. what other issue is there?
1572018-01-16T06:34:56 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11837 | CompareModifiedEntry::operator() not const · Issue #11837 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
1582018-01-16T06:34:59 <gmaxwell> k, well muti-index we probably wouldn't fix by removing for now.
1592018-01-16T06:35:23 <gmaxwell> echelon: have you tried building master?
1602018-01-16T06:35:44 <echelon> doing a pull right now
1612018-01-16T06:36:13 <gmaxwell> thanks
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1632018-01-16T06:40:11 <echelon> seems to have passed the miner.o compilation :)
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1662018-01-16T06:44:00 <sipa> echelon: thanks for pointing out 12116 was still open
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1682018-01-16T06:44:11 <echelon> anytime
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1722018-01-16T07:09:18 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jonasschnelli opened pull request #12196: Add scantxoutset RPC method (master...2017/12/utxo_sweep) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12196
1732018-01-16T07:10:59 <echelon> all tests passed, and everything is running fine :)
1742018-01-16T07:13:31 <sipa> good to hear
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1762018-01-16T07:15:58 <jonasschnelli> gmaxwell: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12196#issuecomment-357872742
1772018-01-16T07:16:07 <jonasschnelli> What do you mean with " addresses for the pubkey part"?
1782018-01-16T07:17:00 <gmaxwell> I would expect the argument you would supply would be addresses, exactly like importing for a watching wallet. Not pubkeys.
1792018-01-16T07:17:25 <gmaxwell> (I suppose a pubkey would be okay to accept in addition to addresses, but I'm not sure if anyone would use it)
1802018-01-16T07:18:08 <jonasschnelli> Using addresses would mean, you would have to known what script types where used for the unspents you are looking for...
1812018-01-16T07:18:36 <sipa> how would you not know?
1822018-01-16T07:18:47 <gmaxwell> the address tells you the script type. Any address can be converted into a scriptpubkey, otherwise how could someone pay it?
1832018-01-16T07:19:12 <gmaxwell> (also, with a bare pubkey you're left guessing at the script type)
1842018-01-16T07:20:13 <sipa> maybe this is easier to discuss with explicit use cases in mind?
1852018-01-16T07:20:30 <jonasschnelli> Yes... hard to give arguments against addresses,...
1862018-01-16T07:20:31 <gmaxwell> The use case is in the linked PR.
1872018-01-16T07:20:45 <jonasschnelli> my use case is that there are backups where only pubkey/privkeys are visible
1882018-01-16T07:21:00 <jonasschnelli> But could also be addresses...
1892018-01-16T07:21:19 <jonasschnelli> I though pubkeys and derive all common scipts makes it easier ...
1902018-01-16T07:21:45 <gmaxwell> The only shortcomming of also supporting pubkeys is that pubkeys don't encode the script type; and we are trying to move away from the "use all the types" handling in the wallet in general.
1912018-01-16T07:21:47 <sipa> well i think it's a bad situation we're in now that public keys explicitly don't have an associated script type
1922018-01-16T07:22:03 <sipa> which simplifies things "they can be anything" in one way
1932018-01-16T07:22:11 <jonasschnelli> Maybe both should work
1942018-01-16T07:22:44 <sipa> unfortunately at this point we really need to treat xpubs as deriving all address types that currentpy exist
1952018-01-16T07:22:49 <jonasschnelli> sipa: that's why you want to scan for all possible related funds...
1962018-01-16T07:22:55 <gmaxwell> I would say that it's fine to also support pubkeys and do wildcard handling, but I'm a little concerned that it'll make it harder to rip out wildcard handling in general in the future.
1972018-01-16T07:23:16 <gmaxwell> jonasschnelli: that has pretty poor scalablity long term as the number of possible types increases.
1982018-01-16T07:23:23 <sipa> jonasschnelli: yeah, compatibiloty with how things are done now is a reason in favor
1992018-01-16T07:23:28 <gmaxwell> at least for the general usage in the wallet, perhaps it's excusable in an import.
2002018-01-16T07:23:43 <sipa> compatibiloty with how i hope thongs work in the future is an argument against
2012018-01-16T07:24:01 <sipa> *some s/o/i/ where appropriate
2022018-01-16T07:24:07 <jonasschnelli> I agree... but I guess the only point where we want that fallback-scan-for-everything is exactly the utxo-base-sweep (scan)
2032018-01-16T07:24:28 <jonasschnelli> (or at least an option)
2042018-01-16T07:24:34 <sipa> fair
2052018-01-16T07:24:36 <sipa> i agree
2062018-01-16T07:24:45 <jonasschnelli> I think supporting addresses and pubkeys makes most sense... will add
2072018-01-16T07:25:13 <sipa> it's analogous to importpubkey and importprivkey
2082018-01-16T07:25:20 <sipa> which also derive everything
2092018-01-16T07:25:28 <jonasschnelli> Right
2102018-01-16T07:25:37 <sipa> or at least all existing addresses
2112018-01-16T07:25:51 <gmaxwell> I think for sweeps its probably fine. Addresses should be the recommended input, if you have a choice, and they don't have that problem. Later we can introduce a script type augmented xpub to cover that case too.
2122018-01-16T07:26:02 <jonasschnelli> There is also a missing rpc call for a rawsweep... something that can calculate fees based on an array of unspents and a send-to-address
2132018-01-16T07:26:04 <sipa> longer term i hope we have address-type-specific privkeys/xpubs (like electrum has)
2142018-01-16T07:26:29 <gmaxwell> I think the behavior should be analogous to importaddress-- e.g. equal or a superset of what that can import.
2152018-01-16T07:26:53 <gmaxwell> jonasschnelli: can fundrawtransaction do that already?
2162018-01-16T07:27:14 <gmaxwell> without thinking too hard I think fundraw could be made to do that, without breaking compatibility with anything.
2172018-01-16T07:28:05 <sipa> yes createraw + fun draw can donthat, but it's abit cumbersome
2182018-01-16T07:28:12 <jonasschnelli> gmaxwell: I don't think so it can today... what you want is no change outputs, just the total - the required fee after the given confirmation target
2192018-01-16T07:28:12 <sipa> *do that
2202018-01-16T07:28:28 <gmaxwell> sipa: if the app is still unclear, consider e.g. sweeping spinoff coins without having to do a importaddress and wallet rescan on a spinoff node.
2212018-01-16T07:28:30 <jonasschnelli> fund* is also the wrong term if you have all unspents
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2232018-01-16T07:28:43 <sipa> right
2242018-01-16T07:28:48 <sipa> yes, makes sense
2252018-01-16T07:28:59 <gmaxwell> jonasschnelli: well thats the change from payment amount behavior.
2262018-01-16T07:29:37 <jonasschnelli> What would easy work is allowing an send-to-address in the utxo scan and spit out the recommended fee
2272018-01-16T07:29:48 <jonasschnelli> (for the tx in the background and use the estimator)
2282018-01-16T07:29:54 <jonasschnelli> but meh
2292018-01-16T07:30:03 <gmaxwell> I suppose someone could then edit the tx if they want other behavior.
2302018-01-16T07:30:40 <gmaxwell> ah, I see ... maybe this should wait for achow's PSBT support.
2312018-01-16T07:31:04 <jonasschnelli> maybe the scantxout command should spit out (additionally) the raw tx for a sweep to a given address
2322018-01-16T07:31:05 <gmaxwell> The best interface for this, I think, would be to output a raw transaction. But the problem with that is that it isn't an acceptable input for signrawtransaction.
2332018-01-16T07:31:26 <gmaxwell> I suppose it could output BOTH a raw transaction and the argument for signrawtransaction.
2342018-01-16T07:31:41 <jonasschnelli> Yes.
2352018-01-16T07:31:49 <gmaxwell> But that problem is the primary motivation for PSBTs.
2362018-01-16T07:31:52 <jonasschnelli> Though we would need xpriv support in signraw
2372018-01-16T07:31:57 <gmaxwell> well one of the primary motivations.
2382018-01-16T07:31:57 <jonasschnelli> (can be added at later stage=
2392018-01-16T07:33:13 <gmaxwell> I like it outputting the raw transaction and signraw argument, though a PSBT would be even better.
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2412018-01-16T07:33:57 <gmaxwell> it could take a destition array, and if it's empty, then just leave off the destinations for further editing.
2422018-01-16T07:34:16 <jonasschnelli> gmaxwell: I think it does already output the signraw arguments,.. the "unspents" array can be used for singraw (it contains the scriptPubKey)
2432018-01-16T07:34:26 <gmaxwell> and support a feerate argument override for the estimator as some of the other rpcs do.
2442018-01-16T07:34:28 <jonasschnelli> (but not the rawtx)
2452018-01-16T07:34:34 <gmaxwell> I know.
2462018-01-16T07:34:51 <jonasschnelli> gmaxwell: good point, feerate override would be great to have
2472018-01-16T07:36:00 <gmaxwell> esp because estimator is dumb on recently started nodes... and I think for this a common use will be to start something, catch up to tip, and sweep...
2482018-01-16T07:36:43 <jonasschnelli> Oh.... yes.
2492018-01-16T07:37:00 <jonasschnelli> I hope we have disabled the default fallbackfee for such cases...
2502018-01-16T07:37:09 <gmaxwell> listunspent has a modifier dictionary that it takes, which you might consider having. The obvious modification would be to ignore dust outputs.
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2522018-01-16T07:38:26 <gmaxwell> (other modifier might be height<=x, which could _sometimes_ be used to create spinoff txn without the spinoff chain-- though that could be added later)
2532018-01-16T07:38:53 <jonasschnelli> Great ideas...
2542018-01-16T07:39:33 <gmaxwell> e.g. you have a signer that knows how to sign for SBTC, and you haven't spent any coins since the fork.. you could use a bitcoin node to create the sweep transactions...
2552018-01-16T07:39:52 <jonasschnelli> One downside of those utxo scans is: "real 8m38.318s"... they take relatively long,... 8m is on a very fast SSD machine
2562018-01-16T07:40:36 <gmaxwell> that is still a HELL of a lot better than a full wallet rescan.
2572018-01-16T07:40:46 <jonasschnelli> indeed...
2582018-01-16T07:41:09 <jonasschnelli> Also,... pruned peers
2592018-01-16T07:41:48 <gmaxwell> 8m still seems like a long time, our poor poor utxo set.
2602018-01-16T07:42:04 <gmaxwell> oh I assume you flush first, perhaps some of that was flush time?
2612018-01-16T07:42:20 <gmaxwell> which can take a long time if your dbcache is gigantic.
2622018-01-16T07:43:03 <gmaxwell> hm. I seem to recall the gettxoutsetinfo taking ~2 minutes. :(
2632018-01-16T07:43:05 <jonasschnelli> gmaxwell: I removed the flush...
2642018-01-16T07:43:28 <gmaxwell> uh, but if you don't flush you won't return correct results?
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2662018-01-16T07:43:49 <gmaxwell> flushing is needed to make the utxo set on disk consistent with the chaintip.
2672018-01-16T07:44:06 <sipa> unless you scan both the disk and memory explicitly
2682018-01-16T07:44:42 <gmaxwell> I suppose you can do that... scan disk, then memory to remove anything found but spent, and add anything added... seems complicated.
2692018-01-16T07:44:42 <jonasschnelli> I guess I should re-add that. :)
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2712018-01-16T07:45:10 <sipa> i believe ryanofski has a PR to pet you scan through a view of the merged disk+cache
2722018-01-16T07:45:22 <sipa> *let
2732018-01-16T07:45:39 <jonasschnelli> 8min is on a AMD Ryzen 7 1700X, 6Gb/s SSD (software raid though)
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2752018-01-16T07:46:42 <echelon> gmaxwell: off-topic, but did you used to do ports for zipit?
2762018-01-16T07:47:58 <gmaxwell> echelon: I don't know what 'ports for zipit' would be, so presumably not. :)
2772018-01-16T07:48:33 <echelon> zipit z2, the handheld linux console thingy
2782018-01-16T07:48:37 <echelon> nevermind :)
2792018-01-16T07:49:05 <gmaxwell> nope! only handheld linux things I've done anything with are sharp zarus and openmoko.
2802018-01-16T07:49:18 <echelon> kk, gotcha
2812018-01-16T07:49:45 <gmaxwell> jonasschnelli: just as a sanity check, can you time a gettxoutsetinfo on the same host?
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2832018-01-16T07:50:15 <jonasschnelli> gmaxwell: one sec
2842018-01-16T07:50:19 <gmaxwell> it might be that my cached memory of how long that takes is outdated or just wrong... but if not, there might be something to optimize in your code.
2852018-01-16T07:50:26 <jonasschnelli> Oh... it's --enable-debug
2862018-01-16T07:50:48 <sipa> jonasschnelli: don't do that when benchmarking :)
2872018-01-16T07:51:05 <jonasschnelli> I fall into this over and over again
2882018-01-16T07:51:40 <sipa> i'm happy sokeone is regularly running with debug enabled :)
2892018-01-16T07:51:46 <sipa> *someone
2902018-01-16T07:52:06 <gmaxwell> lol
2912018-01-16T07:52:29 <gmaxwell> whew, well I hope its faster without it.
2922018-01-16T07:56:13 <gmaxwell> not that 2m would be all that awesome either.
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2962018-01-16T08:03:23 <jonasschnelli> real 9m38.249s (gettxoutsetinfo)
2972018-01-16T08:03:32 <jonasschnelli> now trying with no-debug
2982018-01-16T08:04:22 <jonasschnelli> oh... much faster
2992018-01-16T08:04:51 <gmaxwell> okay so under a minute
3002018-01-16T08:04:57 <jonasschnelli> UTXO scan: real 0m47.572s
3012018-01-16T08:05:04 <gmaxwell> whew
3022018-01-16T08:06:01 <gmaxwell> now to just figure out how to get future spinoffs to base themselves off 0.17 or whatever will have this feature. :P
3032018-01-16T08:06:27 <jonasschnelli> heh
3042018-01-16T08:06:40 <jonasschnelli> Funny... gettxoutsetinfo takes longer: 1m3.496s
3052018-01-16T08:06:49 <gmaxwell> thats because you removed the flush?
3062018-01-16T08:07:06 <jonasschnelli> I have readded but not pulled on that machine... true!
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3082018-01-16T08:07:13 <gmaxwell> thats probably it.
3092018-01-16T08:07:19 <jonasschnelli> doublechecking...
3102018-01-16T08:07:27 <gmaxwell> well ettxoutsetinfo does hashing, so maybe not just that.
3112018-01-16T08:07:37 <jonasschnelli> Flush is there!
3122018-01-16T08:07:45 <gmaxwell> okay, probably the hashing then
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3142018-01-16T08:13:35 <sipa> gettxoutsetinfo uses a lot mkre CPU as it's hashing everything too
3152018-01-16T08:14:04 * gmaxwell estimates which planet sipa is on from the round trip time
3162018-01-16T08:14:30 <sipa> Europa
3172018-01-16T08:15:02 <sipa> hmm, rough estimate tells me the overhead of hashing the whole UTXO set shouldn't be more than a second
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3202018-01-16T08:19:57 <gmaxwell> using bytes or compression function calls to estimate?
3212018-01-16T08:28:37 <gmaxwell> /query gmaxwell
3222018-01-16T08:28:39 <gmaxwell> oops
3232018-01-16T08:29:01 <gmaxwell> (yes, I talk to myself on IRC)
3242018-01-16T08:29:43 <sipa> gmaxwell: on a stream of several GB i'm sure that rounding up to the next multiple of 64 doesn't matter :)
3252018-01-16T08:32:12 <gmaxwell> well I guess the worst case overhead is only 2x for inputs longer than 32 bytes.
3262018-01-16T08:42:18 <gmaxwell> How'd you get into RWC btw?
3272018-01-16T08:46:06 <gmaxwell> nevermind.
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3482018-01-16T10:12:36 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 6 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/bbc91b769973...66e3af709dd4
3492018-01-16T10:12:37 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master e60cb99 MeshCollider: Add a lock to the wallet directory
3502018-01-16T10:12:37 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master c9ed4bd MeshCollider: Add a test for wallet directory locking
3512018-01-16T10:12:38 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 64226de MeshCollider: Generalise walletdir lock error message for correctness
3522018-01-16T10:13:13 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #11904: Add a lock to the wallet directory (master...201712_walletdir_lock) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11904
3532018-01-16T10:17:19 <wumpus> jonasschnelli: I've also fallen into that trap a few times; maybe it'd make sense to make --enable-debug builds emit a warning in the log, as well as when running the benchmarks
3542018-01-16T10:17:56 <gmaxwell> maybe add an extra colum "DEBUG" after the timestamp in all log output?
3552018-01-16T10:18:02 <gmaxwell> or something like that.
3562018-01-16T10:18:28 <gmaxwell> though I bet jonas was doing time ./bitcoin-cli gettxoutsetinfo :P
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3582018-01-16T10:18:36 <wumpus> hehe that's very intrusive :)
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3602018-01-16T10:18:40 <wumpus> on every log line
3612018-01-16T10:19:12 <gmaxwell> I dunno about you, though, if it only logged it at start I'd never notice. I've run the wrong binaries many times and missed the logged version numbers.
3622018-01-16T10:19:14 <wumpus> that veers into the domain of actively discouraging people to run debug builds
3632018-01-16T10:19:20 <gmaxwell> but fair enough.
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3652018-01-16T10:19:35 <gmaxwell> it would be less intrusive if we already had a column there.
3662018-01-16T10:19:42 <wumpus> adding just a 'D' or so would be a compromise
3672018-01-16T10:19:43 <gmaxwell> like "bitcoin-mainnet"
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3692018-01-16T10:20:02 <gmaxwell> or B for bitcoin mainnet... so at least your log parsing commands don't break.
3702018-01-16T10:20:18 <gmaxwell> ah interesting, we each thought it was intrusive for different reasons.
3712018-01-16T10:20:35 <wumpus> but in any case, logging it in some way is better than not logging it, even if it's just an adition to the version message, you can always check/correlate logs later
3722018-01-16T10:20:54 <gmaxwell> true. +1 for at least sticking it in the version string that gets logged.
3732018-01-16T10:21:34 <wumpus> I learned to always check the version message in the log painfully by bisecting kernels on embedded devices; it happens that the programming did go well, so I ended up testing the wrong kernel version, making me bisect 15 steps over again :p
3742018-01-16T10:21:42 <wumpus> did not*
3752018-01-16T10:23:09 <wumpus> yes it might also be intrusive for another reason (e.g. breaking log parsers)
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3832018-01-16T10:51:40 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj opened pull request #12197: Log debug build status and warn when running benchmarks (master...2018_01_debug_in_log) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12197
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3962018-01-16T11:40:51 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj opened pull request #12198: rpc: Add deprecation error for `getinfo` (master...2018_01_getinfo_deprecation_message) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12198
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4092018-01-16T12:12:19 <provoostenator> Functional test suite passes on my machine a lot more often these days, so kudos to whoever improved things.
4102018-01-16T12:12:54 <provoostenator> Now I just need to find out how to prevent those dozen firewall permission popups on OSX after each recompile.
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4142018-01-16T12:22:42 <wumpus> you get firewall permission popups for localhost?
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4222018-01-16T12:30:52 <aj> wumpus: for #11774, i figure it makes sense to wait until #12101 and #12119 (and any other 0.16 PRs modifying tests?) get merged... should i rebase it so github is happy, or does merging it via git directly work okay?
4232018-01-16T12:30:53 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11774 | [WIP] [tests] Rename functional tests by ajtowns · Pull Request #11774 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
4242018-01-16T12:30:55 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/12101 | Clamp walletpassphrase timeout to 2^30 seconds and check its bounds by achow101 · Pull Request #12101 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
4252018-01-16T12:30:58 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/12119 | [wallet] use P2WPKH change output if any destination is P2WPKH or P2SH-P2WSH by Sjors · Pull Request #12119 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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4282018-01-16T12:32:06 <wumpus> aj: you'd need to rebase it just before merging, I guess
4292018-01-16T12:32:22 <wumpus> after the PRs you're waiting for go in, at least
4302018-01-16T12:32:39 <wumpus> rebasing *now* isn't worth it if you just have to do it again
4312018-01-16T12:33:32 <aj> wumpus: rebasing just means running "./fix_tests" :) (well, and eyeballing the patches, and checking the tests actually run)
4322018-01-16T12:33:35 <provoostenator> wumpus: it seems so, haven't investigated what exactly these functional test bitcoind nodes are asking permission for
4332018-01-16T12:33:38 <provoostenator> wumpus: shouldn't #11536 be in he high priority review list, given that #7729 can be based on it?
4342018-01-16T12:33:40 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11536 | Rename account to label where appropriate by ryanofsky · Pull Request #11536 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
4352018-01-16T12:33:44 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/7729 | rpc: introduce label API for wallet by laanwj · Pull Request #7729 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
4362018-01-16T12:34:24 <provoostenator> aj: I don't mind doing a rebase, so don't wait for me
4372018-01-16T12:34:26 <wumpus> provoostenator: currently https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pulls?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Apr+milestone%3A0.16.0 is the high priority review list; the project didn't get updated last meeting
4382018-01-16T12:34:38 <wumpus> all focus is on getting 0.16.0 out
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4402018-01-16T12:36:30 <wumpus> provoostenator: well all the tests can be run without any external network access, so rejecting them to do that shouldn't make a difference, just localhost counts
4412018-01-16T12:37:15 <gmaxwell> it might be due to spurrious dns lookups it doing something that looks like network access, I suppose.
4422018-01-16T12:37:19 <provoostenator> Right, but I'd rather not have to see that popup at all.
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4442018-01-16T12:37:26 <gmaxwell> though we'd probably want to fix that if reasonably possible
4452018-01-16T12:37:40 <wumpus> gmaxwell: yep, it's fully possible that there is some 'leakage', there, but blocking it shouldn't affect the test results
4462018-01-16T12:37:56 <provoostenator> Let me try rejecting...
4472018-01-16T12:38:20 <provoostenator> I grew up with Windows as a kid, so I'm used to clicking Yes
4482018-01-16T12:38:22 <aj> oh, is https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11782 (assertion failure in validation.cpp when you use a 0.15 regtest datadir with 0.16) worth fixing for 0.16?
4492018-01-16T12:38:32 <wumpus> I've never tried runnign the tests on host with only localhost network interface, that'd be kind of interesting (but I don't see why it wouldn't pass)
4502018-01-16T12:38:43 <gmaxwell> aj: uh, that sounds bad
4512018-01-16T12:39:13 <gmaxwell> oh right due to changing where segwit activated.
4522018-01-16T12:39:15 <aj> gmaxwell: 0.15's segwit activations is later than 0.16's, so erroring out is reasonable, assertion failure is just an unpleasant way of doing it
4532018-01-16T12:39:34 <gmaxwell> okay not bad... just ugly.
4542018-01-16T12:39:57 <aj> yeah
4552018-01-16T12:42:41 <wumpus> if it (for sure) only affects regtest it shouldn't block 0.16.0
4562018-01-16T12:43:41 <gmaxwell> A trivial deuglyfication could be to adjust the assert with a note about why it's triggering.
4572018-01-16T12:44:06 <wumpus> <wumpus> I've never tried runnign the tests on host with only localhost network interface, that'd be kind of interesting (but I don't see why it wouldn't pass) <- it's trivial to simulate that using linux netns, will try it
4582018-01-16T12:44:10 <gmaxwell> (via the string equality assert hack)
4592018-01-16T12:45:04 <wumpus> yes, that'd make sense
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4682018-01-16T13:01:51 <wumpus> phew, both functional and unit tests pass with only loopback networking
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4702018-01-16T13:02:49 <wumpus> theoretically, with the UNIX sockets patches it could work even without a loopback interface, but I'm not going to try that :)
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4732018-01-16T13:06:23 <provoostenator> Tests seem to be fine if I deny permission. Still trying to see what triggers the permission popup. I assume it's related to what it tries to listen on.
4742018-01-16T13:06:28 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/66e3af709dd4...cad504bf4c30
4752018-01-16T13:06:28 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 5f911c5 mruddy: trivial: fix address_type help text of getnewaddress and getrawchangeaddress
4762018-01-16T13:06:29 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master cad504b MarcoFalke: Merge #12177: trivial: fix address_type help text of getnewaddress and getrawchangeaddress...
4772018-01-16T13:07:14 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #12177: trivial: fix address_type help text of getnewaddress and getrawchangeaddress (master...trivial1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12177
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4842018-01-16T13:19:17 <provoostenator> OSX remembers the answer to the popup question until you recompile bitcoind with some change (whitespace is enough). src/bitcoind -regtest is enough to trigger it. -listen=0 prevents it
4852018-01-16T13:20:59 <provoostenator> -bind=127.0.0.1 also prevents the popup
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4932018-01-16T13:25:30 <wumpus> right, it probably remembers the hash of the executable. Which is cleverer than some windows 'firewall' software I've encountered which just looks at the name of a program...
4942018-01-16T13:25:53 <wumpus> provoostenator: binding to 127.0.0.1 would make sense for the functional test suite
4952018-01-16T13:25:56 <provoostenator> Adding -bind=127.0.0.1 to each test node in address_types.py make the popup go away while tests still pass, so that's probably the solution.
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4972018-01-16T13:26:25 <wumpus> there is no need for the tests to blnd globally, it could even be somewhat of a security risk
4982018-01-16T13:26:37 <gmaxwell> I was about to say the same thing (security risk)
4992018-01-16T13:26:54 <provoostenator> wumpus: not sure if it's just the hash. Adding whitespace, recompiling and then removing whitespace and recompiling also triggers the popup. But deleting the executable and then running make again doesn't.
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5022018-01-16T13:27:39 <gmaxwell> like if some future change/mistake resulted in setting static rpc credentials in some test, and enabling remote connections... then someone could, if not worse, at least clobber files you can write to with wallet backups and dumps.
5032018-01-16T13:28:47 <gmaxwell> provoostenator: timestamp is pretty cheap to include in a hash... or maybe OSX has some kind of privledged capabilities for executables.
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5062018-01-16T13:29:41 <gmaxwell> would be pretty useful for AV/backups to be able to set a flag on a file that only the setting program can access, that gets nuked if the file is modified.
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5232018-01-16T14:07:21 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Sjors opened pull request #12200: Bind functional test nodes to 127.0.0.1 (master...test-framework-bind) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12200
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5662018-01-16T15:57:00 <hehe> hello
5672018-01-16T15:58:20 <hehe> can i ask bout wallet service that i develop from bitcore?
5682018-01-16T15:58:41 <hehe> #bitcoin
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6582018-01-16T18:57:53 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] morcos opened pull request #12204: Fix overly eager BIP30 bypass (master...bip30bypassfix) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12204
6592018-01-16T18:57:55 <morcos> oops
6602018-01-16T19:00:29 <echeveria> was slightly worried until I realised how far we are from block height 1.9M.
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6622018-01-16T19:04:20 <rabidus> you can continue breathing
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6762018-01-16T19:33:33 <games_> echeveria: what's the difference between block size and block height?
6772018-01-16T19:33:48 <games_> (if this is the wrong place to ask, sorry)
6782018-01-16T19:34:02 <echeveria> what's the difference between a tomato and a cucumber?
6792018-01-16T19:35:11 <Randolf> games_: This might be helpful to you: https://bitcoin.org/en/glossary/block-height
6802018-01-16T19:36:14 <Randolf> games_: And this: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Scalability_FAQ
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6822018-01-16T19:39:43 <instagibbs> games_, #bitcoin please
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7222018-01-16T20:44:24 <games_> instagibbs, Randolf: thanks
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7602018-01-16T22:21:07 <dx25_> With my update to boost 1.66.0-1, I'm getting this really hard-to-understand (for me) compile error. i guess something should be const that isn't?
7612018-01-16T22:21:09 <dx25_> https://pastebin.com/DQr2t7ss
7622018-01-16T22:21:28 <dx25_> compiling latest commit in master
7632018-01-16T22:25:42 <echelon> dx25_: what version of boost do you have installed?
7642018-01-16T22:26:27 <dx25_> 1.66.0-1. If i downgrade to previous version it compiles ok.
7652018-01-16T22:27:36 <echelon> 1.66.0-1 doesn't seem to be a release verrsion
7662018-01-16T22:27:45 <echelon> is that something from your distro?
7672018-01-16T22:28:01 <dx25_> maybe so
7682018-01-16T22:28:02 <dx25_> antergos
7692018-01-16T22:28:19 <dx25_> which i thought was just arch but maybe not
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7712018-01-16T22:28:49 <echelon> yeah, you should find out what they patched up in boost
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7732018-01-16T22:29:38 <echelon> because i'm running 1.66.0, without any changes made by my distro maintainers, and it compiles cleanly
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7752018-01-16T22:31:23 <dx25_> looks like they did some weird patchups to their bitcoin package too, the version number there is 0.15.1-4
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7792018-01-16T22:32:17 <echelon> maybe you should let them know about the fix and have them just use the patch from master
7802018-01-16T22:34:19 <dx25_> this seems to be the official archlinux packages from "extra". i'm going to get their package sources and see what they changed.
7812018-01-16T22:35:32 <dx25_> https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/community.git/tree/trunk/0001-Make-boost-multi_index-comparators-const.patch?h=packages/bitcoin
7822018-01-16T22:36:50 <dx25_> seems like this change ought to get merged into core?
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7892018-01-16T22:48:11 <sipa> dx25_: it already is
7902018-01-16T22:48:21 <sipa> (in master, not in a release)
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7932018-01-16T22:55:17 <dx25_> oh, thought i git fetched, maybe not.
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7962018-01-16T23:00:00 <ossifrage> I wonder why this fails: bitcoin-cli getblock $(bitcoin-cli getblockchaininfo | jq .bestblockhash)
7972018-01-16T23:01:05 <ossifrage> Stupid extra quotes, doh
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