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582018-05-21T06:11:16 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Empact opened pull request #13291: [moveonly] Extract tor_reply.h from tor_control.cpp (master...tor-reply) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13291
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822018-05-21T07:27:47 <provoostenator> IIRC someone recently suggested that too much of a dbcache is not a good thing. Why would that be? Is that only the case for n < dbcache < max_historical_utxo_size ?
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842018-05-21T07:37:07 <provoostenator> Reason I ask is because in my benchmarking for #12404 my impression is that luke-jr's 10% pruning approach is faster than my aggresive prune approach. That effect appears more pronounced as I increase dbache. Pruning 10% should lead to more prune events, which in turn would keep dbcache smaller as a side effect.
852018-05-21T07:37:09 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/12404 | Prune more aggressively during IBD by Sjors · Pull Request #12404 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
862018-05-21T07:37:41 <provoostenator> If that doesn't make any sense at all, then maybe I'm just seeing random noise, so thoughts welcome.
872018-05-21T07:38:24 <luke-jr> provoostenator: I imagine the 10% pruning is most of the advantage
882018-05-21T07:39:14 <provoostenator> That could well be, which is why I'm testing it, but I'm surprised if it's actively harmful to prune more. That suggests something else is going on.
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902018-05-21T07:40:15 <luke-jr> yes, I wouldn't expect pruning more to be harmful
912018-05-21T07:40:28 <luke-jr> except in terms of wallet syncing perhaps
922018-05-21T07:40:33 <luke-jr> or similar
932018-05-21T07:41:15 <provoostenator> This one is configured with --disable-wallet.
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952018-05-21T07:42:45 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jonasschnelli pushed 5 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/d792e47421fc...6738813bcbb7
962018-05-21T07:42:46 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 131d445 John Newbery: scripted-diff: Rename master key to seed...
972018-05-21T07:42:46 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master c75c351 John Newbery: [refactor] manually change remaining instances of master key to seed.
982018-05-21T07:42:47 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 79053a5 John Newbery: [rpc] [wallet] Add 'hdmasterkeyid' alias return values....
992018-05-21T07:43:23 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jonasschnelli closed pull request #12924: Fix hdmaster-key / seed-key confusion (scripted diff) (master...master_key_to_seed) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12924
1002018-05-21T07:48:52 <provoostenator> (I think that "someone" was eklitzke)
1012018-05-21T07:59:38 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jonasschnelli opened pull request #13292: Re-add bench_bitcoin to gitian binaries (master...2018/05/bench_gitian) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13292
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1212018-05-21T08:43:36 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] KaneoHunter opened pull request #13293: Fixed grammar issue. (master...patch-1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13293
1222018-05-21T08:46:15 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake closed pull request #13293: Fixed grammar issue. (master...patch-1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13293
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1312018-05-21T09:49:45 <mmgen> question for the devs: to get a complete wallet backup with all historical transactions is it enough to back up wallet.dat, or must the database dir be backed up too?
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1332018-05-21T09:53:39 <luke-jr> mmgen: the recommended way is to use the backupwallet RPC (or GUI equivalent)
1342018-05-21T09:53:46 <luke-jr> but if you must copy the data manually, you need both
1352018-05-21T09:54:07 <luke-jr> and from the same instant.. which may not be easy to get reliably
1362018-05-21T09:54:27 <mmgen> luke-jr: however, backupwallet just makes a copy of wallet.dat, nothing more
1372018-05-21T09:54:56 <mmgen> luke-jr: it doesn't copy the database directory, as far as I know
1382018-05-21T09:55:28 <luke-jr> mmgen: it closes the database first, and makes a copy with it closed
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1402018-05-21T09:55:50 <mmgen> luke-jr: so the wallet.dat it produces is a complete backup that contains all the history?
1412018-05-21T09:56:07 <luke-jr> right
1422018-05-21T09:56:23 <mmgen> luke-jr: ok, that's what I neede to know. Thanks!
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1452018-05-21T10:04:07 <mmgen> Just something I noticed: I'm running bitcoind with --connect=0, yet I'm getting error messages "Potential stale tip detected, will try using extra outbound peer". Sort of silly, considering the daemon is running offline.
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1702018-05-21T12:05:58 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] practicalswift opened pull request #13294: Fix compiler warnings emitted when compiling under stock OpenBSD 6.3 (master...openbsd-warnings) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13294
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2072018-05-21T14:38:19 <jamesob> cfields: is there a good place for me to undef HAVE_THREAD_LOCAL based on our findings that it's unsuitable for use on __APPLE__ and (apparently) __WIN32__? Can do it in threadutil.cpp as before, but it seems like there'd be a better place
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2092018-05-21T14:44:59 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] practicalswift opened pull request #13295: docs: Update OpenBSD build instructions for OpenBSD 6.3 (master...openbsd-6.3) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13295
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2122018-05-21T14:59:52 <Chris_Stewart_5> Does the protocol allow for different hash types for each signature in a multisig script?
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2252018-05-21T15:37:16 <ryanofsky> jamesob, maybe just modify the autoconf test program to check for the behavior you need: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/configure.ac#L712-L729. or you could disable for known bad compiler versions
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2292018-05-21T15:41:16 <jamesob> ryanofsky: I think for the time being we want to undef HAVE_THREAD_LOCAL for certain platforms even after that autoconf check - any idea of the appropriate place to do that?
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2552018-05-21T16:43:08 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/6738813bcbb7...092b36688142
2562018-05-21T16:43:08 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 4138f42 Ben Woosley: Revert "Merge #12870: make clean removes src/qt/moc_ files"...
2572018-05-21T16:43:09 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 092b366 MarcoFalke: Merge #13254: Remove improper qt/moc_* cleaning glob from the general Makefile...
2582018-05-21T16:43:55 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #13254: Remove improper qt/moc_* cleaning glob from the general Makefile (master...make-clean-qt-moc) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13254
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2632018-05-21T16:59:28 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jnewbery opened pull request #13297: [wallet] Fix incorrect comment for DeriveNewSeed. (master...derive_hd_seed_comment) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13297
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2672018-05-21T17:17:45 <cfields> jamesob: maybe just exclude those OSs from the configure check?
2682018-05-21T17:18:02 <cfields> heh yes, what ryanofsky said :)
2692018-05-21T17:18:49 <cfields> jamesob: do you have a link to the busted mingw results? I'm curious to see the details
2702018-05-21T17:19:17 <jamesob> cfields: https://gist.github.com/jamesob/fe9a872051a88b2025b1aa37bfa98605
2712018-05-21T17:20:32 <cfields> thanks, looking
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2752018-05-21T17:25:59 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/092b36688142...d82c5d15c504
2762018-05-21T17:26:00 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master be87c6f John Newbery: [wallet] Fix incorrect comment for DeriveNewSeed.
2772018-05-21T17:26:00 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master d82c5d1 MarcoFalke: Merge #13297: [wallet] Fix incorrect comment for DeriveNewSeed....
2782018-05-21T17:26:50 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #13297: [wallet] Fix incorrect comment for DeriveNewSeed. (master...derive_hd_seed_comment) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13297
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2802018-05-21T17:42:44 <cfields> jamesob: confirmed, but i'm not sure if it's a mingw problem or a Wine one
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2822018-05-21T17:43:14 <jamesob> cfields: yeah, good point. we'd need a native Windows platform to figure that one out, right?
2832018-05-21T17:43:16 <cfields> I guess realistically, those are the same thing for us, as a Wine bug would keep us from testing entirely
2842018-05-21T17:43:29 <cfields> jamesob: right
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2872018-05-21T17:44:13 <cfields> bug was reported here, don't know if it was ever fixed: https://sourceforge.net/p/mingw-w64/bugs/445/
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2902018-05-21T17:46:31 <cfields> jamesob: for platforms where we're enabling thread_local, we should add a runtime sanity check for sure
2912018-05-21T17:47:55 <jamesob> cfields: what specifically are you thinking there?
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2932018-05-21T17:48:21 <jamesob> something more in the AC_LINK_IFELSE program?
2942018-05-21T17:48:28 <cfields> jamesob: see compat/glibc_sanity.cpp as an example. Imo we need compat/thread_local_sanity.cpp too
2952018-05-21T17:48:50 <cfields> jamesob: no, something that's actually executed by bitcoind as a quick runtime check
2962018-05-21T17:50:30 <jamesob> the testcase I wrote results in a stackoverflow though - is there a way to safely include something like that at runtime?
2972018-05-21T17:50:43 <cfields> basically, if it compiles and links ok, there's still a chance something's busted. We need to be able to catch the mingw failure and refuse to run, even if we didn't know that it was busted
2982018-05-21T17:51:03 <cfields> jamesob: see the link above. seems to give predictable-ish results
2992018-05-21T17:51:38 <ken2812221> jamesob: I test your code on Ubuntu 18.04, it seems not an issue anymore.
3002018-05-21T17:52:15 <ken2812221> I test it on native Windows and wine3.0
3012018-05-21T17:55:47 <pierre_rochard> Iâve written a blog post for the 1.0 release of BitcoinACKs.com and would really appreciate any and all feedback before I publish it: https://gist.github.com/PierreRochard/dad65528025cfac21bc5521ef7e629ac
3022018-05-21T17:56:03 <jamesob> ken2812221: interesting. thanks for testing.
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3042018-05-21T17:56:42 <pierre_rochard> Additionally, if you would like to provide a short blurb quote explaining why you find the site useful, that would be appreciated!
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3062018-05-21T18:01:15 <Chris_Stewart_5> pierre_rochard: Very cool
3072018-05-21T18:02:37 <Chris_Stewart_5> pierre_rochard: Are you going to add that blurb to a help menu on the site?
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3092018-05-21T18:04:27 <pierre_rochard> @chris_stewart_5 thanks! I was going to append blurbs to the blog post itself, and publish it as an "About" tab on the acks website, as well as on medium / my own website
3102018-05-21T18:04:50 <jamesob> cfields: you're pretty confident that the bug described in that issue is the same one affecting us in the gist?
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3122018-05-21T18:10:18 <cfields> jamesob: not sure, no. An issue either way, though
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3262018-05-21T19:04:15 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] naumenkogs opened pull request #13298: Net: Random delays *per network group* to obfuscate transaction time (master...delay_per_net_group) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13298
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3522018-05-21T20:15:33 <skeees> anyone here looking at / spending time reviewing the latest dandelion proposal (either bip or code)?
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3552018-05-21T20:31:47 <sipa> skeees: yup
3562018-05-21T20:32:40 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jamesob closed pull request #13200: Process logs in a separate thread (master...2018-05-asynclog) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13200
3572018-05-21T20:33:45 <sipa> i was planning to go through it
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3662018-05-21T21:19:52 <Varunram> Is anyone else having this bug on macOS? bitcoind starts fine but I can't seem to query it using bitcoin-cli
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3682018-05-21T21:20:10 <Varunram> I'm on regtest and on commit d792e47421fcb9ce3b381c1e6d8902777ae3f9f3 for ref.
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3702018-05-21T21:22:11 <sipa> define "can't seem to query it" ?
3712018-05-21T21:22:48 <sipa> what do you do, what do you see, what do you expect to see
3722018-05-21T21:22:51 <Varunram> sorry, should've been clearer: `Could not connect to the server 127.0.0.1:8332`
3732018-05-21T21:23:16 <sipa> are you sure bitcoind is running?
3742018-05-21T21:23:31 <Varunram> yep
3752018-05-21T21:23:43 <Varunram> btw, why is it trying to connect on that port?
3762018-05-21T21:23:50 <Varunram> it should be 18443 right?
3772018-05-21T21:24:01 <sipa> ah
3782018-05-21T21:24:10 <sipa> are you passing -regtest to bitcoin-cli?
3792018-05-21T21:24:33 <Varunram> oh my
3802018-05-21T21:24:49 <sipa> :)
3812018-05-21T21:24:57 <Varunram> was this added in 0.16? I can pretty much be sure I didn't do this in 0.15
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3832018-05-21T21:25:50 <sipa> there is no way bitcoin-cli can know you're trying to connect to regtest without it
3842018-05-21T21:25:53 <sipa> ever
3852018-05-21T21:26:10 <Varunram> oh, ok. I guess i'd have had it in the conf then
3862018-05-21T21:26:21 <Varunram> thanks!
3872018-05-21T21:26:22 <sipa> that's possible
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4242018-05-21T22:46:00 <satwo_> Hello all. Is the "witness_unknown" script type in Bitcoin Core essentially in place for backward compatibility in the event of a future soft fork adding a new witness script type (or increasing the version of an existing one)?
4252018-05-21T22:48:08 <sipa> yes
4262018-05-21T22:48:45 <sipa> because BIP173 defines an address type for future segwit versions, we need a way to parse and represent those
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4282018-05-21T22:53:34 <satwo> Ok, thanks sipa. Would it be possible for someone to manually construct such an address type right now that the parser represents as "witness_unknown"?
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4332018-05-21T23:01:07 <satwo> Not asking because I plan on doing so, but just want to make sure I understand things properly.
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4422018-05-21T23:18:07 <luke-jr> satwo: yes, but it would be basically an anyone-can-spend and rejected by network policies
4432018-05-21T23:18:40 <sipa> satwo: creating such an address would be trivial, yes
4442018-05-21T23:19:19 <sipa> BIP173 even contains an example: bc1zw508d6qejxtdg4y5r3zarvaryvg6kdaj
4452018-05-21T23:24:01 <Chris_Stewart_5> Does anyone know how to compile bitcoin core when there is a name conflict for threading libraries on windows?
4462018-05-21T23:24:08 <satwo> Ah, that's what I was getting at, whether a tx with such an output could be relayed/mined at the present time. Thanks for the clarification gents.
4472018-05-21T23:24:12 <Chris_Stewart_5> what is the flag that needs to be set on ./configure ?
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4502018-05-21T23:25:35 <luke-jr> Chris_Stewart_5: why would there be?
4512018-05-21T23:26:09 <Chris_Stewart_5> link to output: https://pastebin.com/ksnLcu3V
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4532018-05-21T23:26:42 <Chris_Stewart_5> luke-jr: It's talked about in this foot note, but I'm not sure what flag needs to be set: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/doc/build-windows.md#footnotes
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4572018-05-21T23:32:20 <luke-jr> odd
4582018-05-21T23:33:41 <sipa> Chris_Stewart_5: are you compiling _on_ windows or _for_ windows?
4592018-05-21T23:34:34 <Chris_Stewart_5> sipa: Using the "Windows subsystem for Linux" which I beleive is the former?
4602018-05-21T23:35:13 <sipa> the two footnotes there are specifically about issues when building on ubuntu for windows
4612018-05-21T23:35:18 <sipa> i doubt they apply to WSL
4622018-05-21T23:35:49 <sipa> ah, but WSL is derived from ubuntu?
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4642018-05-21T23:36:39 <Chris_Stewart_5> sipa: Possibly? I'm not 100% sure. Today is the first day of learning of this :-)
4652018-05-21T23:37:10 <Chris_Stewart_5> "The Windows Subsystem for Linux lets developers run Linux environments -- including most command-line tools, utilities, and applications -- directly on Windows, unmodified, without the overhead of a virtual machine. "
4662018-05-21T23:38:05 <sipa> i don't know either
4672018-05-21T23:40:44 <kallewoof> jimpo: Now I am :)
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