12018-07-23T00:01:13  <sipa> ha, the tv show?
  22018-07-23T00:02:11  <MarcoFalke> jup
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  42018-07-23T00:03:05  <gmaxwell> so now "CI" means confidential informant, not continious integration?
  52018-07-23T00:03:33  <sipa> gmaxwell: oh! now i understand the tv show!
  62018-07-23T00:03:39  <sipa> (j/k)
  72018-07-23T00:05:33  <MarcoFalke> lol, I don't get much in the show. Not sure if its due to the language or the way they made the 3:4 to widescreen
  82018-07-23T00:16:29  <luke-jr> that's seriously annoying. -.-
  92018-07-23T00:16:37  <luke-jr> (the close/reopen)
 102018-07-23T00:17:36  <sipa> MarcoFalke: watch with english subtitles
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 122018-07-23T00:19:30  <MarcoFalke> luke-jr: It seems less annoying than having to re-run all travis configurations locally
 132018-07-23T00:21:59  <ken2812221> Is there any way to have bitcoin-git ignore DrahtBot?
 142018-07-23T00:24:09  <gmaxwell> would it be better if drahtbot did the close reopen all at once, once a week?
 152018-07-23T00:25:26  <sipa> MarcoFalke: another idea for the "this PR conflicts with ..." message; what if it's just a single comment that gets updated, rather than a new one each time?
 162018-07-23T00:25:41  <MarcoFalke> sipa: I do update the comment
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 182018-07-23T00:26:17  <sipa> oh!
 192018-07-23T00:26:37  <sipa> my apologies, i should have checked
 202018-07-23T00:26:56  <sipa> what's the threshold for closing/reopening?
 212018-07-23T00:27:23  <sipa> MarcoFalke: also, does travis not have an api through which you can re-run things?
 222018-07-23T00:27:43  <MarcoFalke> See for example the dropdown in https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13449#issuecomment-397424236
 232018-07-23T00:28:15  <MarcoFalke> sipa: It does, but it uses the merge commit of  when the pull was created
 242018-07-23T00:28:22  <MarcoFalke> Also the yaml of when the pull was created
 252018-07-23T00:28:35  <sipa> MarcoFalke: ah, yes
 262018-07-23T00:28:45  <MarcoFalke> It might be possible to overwrite the yaml: https://docs.travis-ci.com/user/triggering-builds/#Customizing-the-build-configuration
 272018-07-23T00:29:13  <MarcoFalke> though, I haven't checked if it might also be possible to overwrite the commit
 282018-07-23T00:29:35  <MarcoFalke>  <gmaxwell> would it be better if drahtbot did the close reopen all at once, once a week?
 292018-07-23T00:29:38  <MarcoFalke> Thats a good idea
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 312018-07-23T00:30:26  <MarcoFalke> The initial volume was so high because it was the first runs (and I lowered the threshold a bit for each run)
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 432018-07-23T01:51:06  <fanquake> MarcoFalke I forgot to ask yesterday, why would the bot be editing PR descriptions/bodies? Or does that happen for some reason when it open/closes PRs?
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 522018-07-23T02:54:31  <kallewoof> I'm wondering about #12257. Is it something people would like to try to get into 0.17 or would you rather wait. Also wonder if it is considered a fix or feature, since the feature freeze is today. (I think someone noted that it may be considered a fix, which is why I didn't ask for it to be in high pri list. But I'm not sure if I misunderstood)
 532018-07-23T02:54:35  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/12257 | [wallet] Use destination groups instead of coins in coin select by kallewoof · Pull Request #12257 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHubAsset 1Asset 1
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1052018-07-23T07:17:42  <gmaxwell> it's unfortunate json can't have comments.
1062018-07-23T07:18:59  <gmaxwell> In juniper configs, the system always writes a comments on lines containing secret data like authentication strings. It's useful so you can grep out the secret lines, but also so you're less likely to foolishly paste them where you shouldn't. It would be nice if e.g. for key outputs we could have a //SECRET KEY, KEEP PRIVATE
1072018-07-23T07:19:16  <gmaxwell> (inspired by someone who looked like they nearly pasted the output of dumpprivkey into #bitcoin)
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1112018-07-23T07:30:16  <gmaxwell> nmnkgl: I wonder how likely it will be that we'll see a massive rise in 'listeners' as a result of improving propagation privacy.  That attack wont work all that well, but I suppose it makes sense that they'll try. Maybe those who are already willing run run a lot of listners already are.
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1132018-07-23T07:31:14  <gmaxwell> I suppose it might be a reason to up the priority of doing things like treating all amazon as a single netgroup.
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1282018-07-23T09:22:52  <wumpus> 09:17 < gmaxwell> it's unfortunate json can't have comments.  <- yes :-( all you can do is include dummy text fields
1292018-07-23T09:23:31  <wumpus> e.g. define what is a comment in your own meta-schema. It's inelegant ofcourse.
1302018-07-23T09:24:50  <wumpus> but might be worth it for some things, also because it survives the typical json->internal->json roundtrip
1312018-07-23T09:26:14  <wumpus> "privkey;comment":"SECRET KEY, KEEP PRIVATE"
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1342018-07-23T09:47:16  <gmaxwell> darn I was hoping someone that knew more about json would tell me I was wrong. :P
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1362018-07-23T09:50:58  <wumpus> no, but in this case, being able to embed comments in JSON wouldn't help, they'd get lost in transit. bitcoin-cli parses and reformats the JSON to add indentation and such to make it more human-readable , which would lose comments
1372018-07-23T09:51:30  <wumpus> for configuration files, comments would be useful, though I think JSON is not a very good confirmation file format
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1392018-07-23T09:55:47  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] kallewoof opened pull request #13746: -masterdatadir for datadir bootstrapping (master...masterdatadir) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13746
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1602018-07-23T10:33:33  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/0a34593ddb7a...d2186b3db61a
1612018-07-23T10:33:33  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa45151 MarcoFalke: doc: Adjust bitcoincore.org links
1622018-07-23T10:33:34  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master d2186b3 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #13742: doc: Adjust bitcoincore.org links...
1632018-07-23T10:34:35  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #13742: doc: Adjust bitcoincore.org links (master...Mf1807-docBitcoinCore) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13742
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1712018-07-23T10:53:22  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/d2186b3db61a...c0a47da72505
1722018-07-23T10:53:22  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 84547fa Pieter Wuille: Avoid creating a temporary vector for size-prefixed elements
1732018-07-23T10:53:23  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master c0a47da Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #13719: Avoid creating a temporary vector for size-prefixed elements...
1742018-07-23T10:54:20  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #13719: Avoid creating a temporary vector for size-prefixed elements (master...201807_psbt_no_vec_serialize) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13719
1752018-07-23T10:56:26  <promag> fanquake asked #13529 for 0.17, does it make sense?
1762018-07-23T10:56:29  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/13529 | Use new Qt5 connect syntax by promag · Pull Request #13529 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
1772018-07-23T10:57:14  <luke-jr> promag: depends on the oldest Qt version we support I guess
1782018-07-23T10:57:22  <promag> btw, it should be ready for review
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1812018-07-23T10:59:47  <promag> luke-jr: at least 5.2, see #13478
1822018-07-23T10:59:48  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/13478 | [RFC] gui: Minimum required Qt5 · Issue #13478 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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1882018-07-23T11:22:18  <wumpus> luke-jr: 13529 does not change the minimum supported qt version as far as I know
1892018-07-23T11:22:39  <wumpus> luke-jr: he does not use the particular syntax that requires 5.7
1902018-07-23T11:23:48  <wumpus> (I might be wrong though)
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1932018-07-23T11:29:26  <promag> right, 13529 just requires a qt5, in 5.7 there is a useful template function to make some connects prettier
1942018-07-23T11:31:20  <wumpus> exactly, we with regard to requiring qt5 we have already crossed that river
1952018-07-23T11:32:25  <wumpus> promag: I don't have a strong opionion either way, what do you think the risk is that this breaks some connections? can we realistically test this?
1962018-07-23T11:33:01  <promag> since qt5 supports SIGNAL()/SLOT() macros I don't think there is a rush
1972018-07-23T11:33:02  <wumpus> we've had some UI behavior silently breaking in the past it would not be great to do that just before a release, though it'd probably be caught in rc
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2012018-07-23T11:33:57  <promag> actually this syntax is better in that case
2022018-07-23T11:34:31  <wumpus> that is true
2032018-07-23T11:34:57  <promag> either it compiles (and signal and slot are compatible) or it fails
2042018-07-23T11:35:00  <wumpus> it is no longer string-based at runtime
2052018-07-23T11:35:04  <promag> right
2062018-07-23T11:35:19  <wumpus> to be clear I agree that the new method is much better
2072018-07-23T11:35:43  <promag> yeah, but could go right after 0.17 IMO
2082018-07-23T11:36:14  <promag> so we could have a release cycle to make some adjustments
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2102018-07-23T11:43:39  <wumpus> agree-added 0.18 milestone
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2172018-07-23T12:06:58  <MarcoFalke> [21:51] <fanquake> MarcoFalke I forgot to ask yesterday, why would the bot be editing PR descriptions/bodies? Or does that happen for some reason when it open/closes PRs?
2182018-07-23T12:07:10  <MarcoFalke> I believe this happens everytime you edit an issue: https://developer.github.com/v3/issues/#edit-an-issue
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2232018-07-23T12:27:54  <wumpus> wouldn't the travis API have a way to trigger a new test run, instead of relying on closing/opening
2242018-07-23T12:28:13  <wumpus> it's somewhat ham handed
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2292018-07-23T12:47:27  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] domob1812 opened pull request #13747: tests: Skip P2PConnection's is_closing() check when not available (master...skip-isclosing) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13747
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2542018-07-23T14:00:36  <wumpus> kallewoof: will take a look at #12257, I agree it would be nice to get it in
2552018-07-23T14:00:43  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/12257 | [wallet] Use destination groups instead of coins in coin select by kallewoof · Pull Request #12257 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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2612018-07-23T14:05:51  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/c0a47da72505...ab28b5b52702
2622018-07-23T14:05:51  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 64b9f27 Daniel Kraft: Skip is_closing() check when not available....
2632018-07-23T14:05:52  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master ab28b5b MarcoFalke: Merge #13747: tests: Skip P2PConnection's is_closing() check when not available...
2642018-07-23T14:06:50  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #13747: tests: Skip P2PConnection's is_closing() check when not available (master...skip-isclosing) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13747
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3342018-07-23T15:26:25  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/7ebd8c6385253bfa30175169a22f93474d8ddfaf
3352018-07-23T15:26:26  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 7ebd8c6 Wladimir J. van der Laan: qt: Update translation source messages...
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3402018-07-23T15:31:06  <ossifrage> Has anyone noticed a large uptick in "ERROR: AcceptBlockHeader: prev block not found" messages? Any idea which fork they are coming from?
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3502018-07-23T16:27:51  <wumpus> ossifrage: I see the message in the log of every node I've checked, but don't see a clear uptick recently
3512018-07-23T16:28:16  <wumpus> --haven't plotted or done any statistics though
3522018-07-23T16:29:14  <ossifrage> yeah, my statistics where just grep and wc
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3622018-07-23T16:53:41  <harding> ossifrage: I see an uptick here too, but not one that looks significant to me: https://imgur.com/a/jxithRY
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3732018-07-23T17:23:25  <cfields> jonasschnelli / wumpus: I didn't get around to reviewing #9502 after the meeting as promised last week. Still possible to get that in? I'm going through it right now. I'd hate to see it missed for 0.17 because I forgot about it :(
3742018-07-23T17:23:28  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/9502 | [Qt] Add option to pause/resume block downloads by jonasschnelli · Pull Request #9502 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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3772018-07-23T17:25:24  <ossifrage> harding, in my case I think it is just that my node has been up for a while and the connection count is wandering up and with it the non-bitcoin nodes (recently lost my old ip address thanks to verizon-quality)
3782018-07-23T17:25:28  <cfields> ossifrage: Are you running master? If so, I'd guess it's from #11637.
3792018-07-23T17:25:30  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11637 | p2p: Remove dead service bits code by MarcoFalke · Pull Request #11637 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHubAsset 1Asset 1
3802018-07-23T17:26:39  <ossifrage> I'm running b330f3fdd56b2dccc106154575af46ebb53e1ad9 from Fri Jun 29 10:08:52 2018
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3872018-07-23T17:56:52  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jnewbery closed pull request #10160: Add updatepeer RPC (master...updatepeer) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10160
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3892018-07-23T17:59:00  <jonasschnelli> wumpus: I think we can postpone #9502 to 0.18
3902018-07-23T17:59:04  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/9502 | [Qt] Add option to pause/resume block downloads by jonasschnelli · Pull Request #9502 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
3912018-07-23T17:59:37  <jonasschnelli> I didn't had the time to check if there are rebase issues (since it quite old now)
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3982018-07-23T18:05:15  <cfields> jonasschnelli: you sure?
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4172018-07-23T19:21:48  <wumpus> jonasschnelli: ok, yes, makes sense
4182018-07-23T19:24:43  <wumpus> cfields: yes, it's unfortunate, it's an old PR and it's too bad it got too little review
4192018-07-23T19:25:07  <wumpus> cfields: but it's not your fault.
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4212018-07-23T19:48:33  <jonasschnelli> wumpus: I think we can postpone #9502 to 0.18
4222018-07-23T19:48:36  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/9502 | [Qt] Add option to pause/resume block downloads by jonasschnelli · Pull Request #9502 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
4232018-07-23T19:48:46  <jonasschnelli> sry... misstype
4242018-07-23T19:49:44  <jonasschnelli> cfields: no hurry with that PR. The main reason why I'd like to get it merged at some point is that it helps with an potential SPV mode
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