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192018-09-04T02:16:23 <da2ce7> kanzure, is it possible for to fix the headers of the emails so that regular email clients show the original author? - Or could it be policy that people can put their name/nym at the end of the email. I find it a frustration to work out the author of many of the mails now.
202018-09-04T02:25:06 <kanzure> has this changed recently?
212018-09-04T02:25:11 <achow101> da2ce7: the original author is usually in the reply-to field
222018-09-04T02:26:53 <achow101> both gmail and protonmail show me "from: X via bitcoin-dev"
232018-09-04T02:32:06 <da2ce7> achow101, kanzure, I worked it out, my computer had a contact card for the mailing list and then just showing than instead of the real-name. :)
242018-09-04T02:32:25 <da2ce7> thankyou anyway.
252018-09-04T02:35:59 <kanzure> now that we have solved the email protocol, let's move on to coinjoin
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492018-09-04T08:19:17 <provoostenator> Ok, this is new... I'm getting a 500 server error for #13937
502018-09-04T08:19:18 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/13937 | HTTP Error 500: Internal Server Error
512018-09-04T08:19:51 <provoostenator> (it's my rebase of #12138)
522018-09-04T08:19:52 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/12138 | Track best-possible-headers by TheBlueMatt · Pull Request #12138 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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662018-09-04T09:41:40 <fanquake> wumpus 14140, 14135, 14129, 14128, 14094, 14013 probably all mergeable
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682018-09-04T10:04:23 <wumpus> fanquake: thanks!
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772018-09-04T11:51:17 <fanquake> wumpus thanks. 14133 could also go in
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882018-09-04T13:37:56 <as1nc> hello folks, beautiful day here in south of france, bitcoin is doing great, what else can we ask ? :) oh yeah, anyone has any tips on how I could guess what type of a addresses is used (p2sh, p2pkh..) given an xpub, ypub or zpub key ? is that even possible ?
892018-09-04T13:40:34 <as1nc> given an xpubkey, i would like to know the good derivation path i should use for that key, without having the user to specify it upfront
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922018-09-04T14:02:15 <BlueMatt> anyone else get a 500 trying to open #13937?
932018-09-04T14:02:16 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/13937 | HTTP Error 500: Internal Server Error
942018-09-04T14:06:36 <BlueMatt> heh, I guess gribble does too
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962018-09-04T14:16:39 <as1nc> same here
972018-09-04T14:17:06 <michagogo> Hrm, weird, looks like I disconnected a week ago and half my channels didn't rejoin
982018-09-04T14:17:47 <echeveria> michagogo: +r
992018-09-04T14:17:55 <michagogo> Hm?
1002018-09-04T14:18:35 <harding> michagogo: since the recent spam attacks about a month ago, a lot of channels now require being a registered user (+r). If you were disconnected and don't use SASL auth, you probably weren't registered with nickserv when you reconnected.
1012018-09-04T14:18:36 <michagogo> Was there a problem with services a week ago? Because I ID with SASL...
1022018-09-04T14:19:01 <michagogo> Anyway
1032018-09-04T14:19:03 <echeveria> nickserv has also been funky and was rebooted a few times.
1042018-09-04T14:19:05 <michagogo> I may be able to get back to gitian again soon - working on migrating my VM over to my new laptop ð
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1062018-09-04T14:24:09 <phantomcircuit> michagogo, services were broken and one of the servers decided to stop doing anything at all
1072018-09-04T14:24:19 <phantomcircuit> (my connection to it got pongs but that's it)
1082018-09-04T14:24:33 <michagogo> Heh
1092018-09-04T14:25:03 <michagogo> In other news: It seems on Windows 10 the OS itself runs in a VM, so Virtualbox doesn't work because Hyper-V is already using the CPU's virtualization capabilities as a bare-metal hypervisor
1102018-09-04T14:26:16 <michagogo> So I migrated the VM over to Hyper-V, converting from legacy to UEFI Secure Boot along the way
1112018-09-04T14:26:24 <michagogo> And it seems it worked!
1122018-09-04T14:27:12 <michagogo> (Apparently boot-repair doesn't like it when apt on the target system is configured to use localhost as a proxy)
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1142018-09-04T14:37:38 <provoostenator> 13937 can be found here, though without PR comments: https://github.com/Sjors/bitcoin/commits/2018/08/best-header-tracking
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1172018-09-04T14:48:12 <phantomcircuit> michagogo, windows uses hyper-v for some compatibility stuff
1182018-09-04T14:48:25 <phantomcircuit> iirc literally runs win xp
1192018-09-04T14:49:12 <michagogo> phantomcircuit: Huh? For what exactly?
1202018-09-04T14:49:23 <michagogo> I thought it was for the virtualization-based security
1212018-09-04T14:57:04 <phantomcircuit> michagogo, possibly they dont do this anymore but vista ran an entire copy of xp for binaries with the xp compatibility flag set
1222018-09-04T14:59:02 <sipa> phantomcircuit: that was an optional component, and it was pretty much just a VM
1232018-09-04T14:59:15 <sipa> by default it ran in a window, where had the xp desktop etc
1242018-09-04T14:59:33 <sipa> though there was a mode that would forward the windows in the VM to the outside video
1252018-09-04T15:01:39 <sipa> hmm, googling tells me it still exists and is more integrated now
1262018-09-04T15:01:58 <sipa> my experience with it is from win7 iirc
1272018-09-04T15:04:26 <phantomcircuit> sipa, i remember it being able to pull the window out of the vm and integrate it with the main ui
1282018-09-04T15:04:40 <sipa> yeah
1292018-09-04T15:05:22 <phantomcircuit> iirc it also had a shim to bring the local fs into the vm or something
1302018-09-04T15:10:46 <michagogo> Anything new I should know about building?
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1432018-09-04T17:00:20 <phantomcircuit> that reminds me, it would be nice if the integration testing ran for each commit in a pull
1442018-09-04T17:00:48 <phantomcircuit> as it stands it's not easy to tell from a glance whether commits are themselves passing the tests
1452018-09-04T17:06:05 <gmaxwell> phantomcircuit: is your reason for asking because of the preference that every commit passes the test in order to aid bisecting? or?
1462018-09-04T17:07:20 <phantomcircuit> gmaxwell, yes
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1492018-09-04T17:16:35 <sipa> phantomcircuit: there was some discussion about that lately; i don't remember where though
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1512018-09-04T17:16:59 <sipa> unfortunately, it doesn't seem easy
1522018-09-04T17:17:43 <gmaxwell> it's straight forward with jenkins and I assume other traditional ci stuff.
1532018-09-04T17:20:37 <jamesob> phantomcircuit gmaxwell: that's going to amount to *a lot* of compute time given the amount of rebasing we do on large PRs
1542018-09-04T17:21:21 <jamesob> we could start with `make check` for each commit, probably
1552018-09-04T17:21:52 <phantomcircuit> in the (not to distant) past i've run into commits that simply dont build while bisecting
1562018-09-04T17:23:36 <andytoshi> i believe `git rebase master -x make` will simply try to build ... you could disable tests and gui on this
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1582018-09-04T17:26:46 <gmaxwell> Passing make check for each commit is likely sufficient.
1592018-09-04T17:29:25 <phantomcircuit> indeed
1602018-09-04T17:35:12 <sipa> andytoshi: ooh, i didn't know about rebase -x
1612018-09-04T17:37:43 <sipa> jamesob: make check on every commit would be cool
1622018-09-04T17:38:06 <sipa> jamesob: it could even be a separate phase, between the lint checks and the full checks
1632018-09-04T17:49:33 <sipa> actually, that'd probably be a bad idea as we don't expect many failures in those, and they're probably even slower than the other runs
1642018-09-04T17:49:59 <gmaxwell> make check runs a lot of weird stuff.
1652018-09-04T17:51:07 <gmaxwell> maybe just one of the other CI tests that does the most trivial thing that involves actually starting the daemon.
1662018-09-04T17:52:53 <sipa> but for large PRs, this will likely introduce an order of magnitude increase in delay until results are available
1672018-09-04T17:53:13 <sipa> unless we can have one travis job for each
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1792018-09-04T19:50:03 <michagogo> cfields: The depends source fallback is missing qt
1802018-09-04T19:50:24 <michagogo> 0.17.0's qt, at least
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1882018-09-04T20:12:35 <jamesob> sipa: maybe we can have another service (e.g. circleci) run checks like that out of band with travis
1892018-09-04T20:18:55 <sipa> right
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2102018-09-04T21:54:23 <polydin> herro?
2112018-09-04T21:55:21 <sipa> wercome
2122018-09-04T21:55:34 <polydin> lol
2132018-09-04T21:55:39 <polydin> got a question about pruning
2142018-09-04T21:56:27 <sipa> if you don't ask it, you'll never get an a swer
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2162018-09-04T21:57:14 <polydin> i was running low on laptop space so i decided to run bitcoind prune=100000 to restrict disk space used to 100 GB
2172018-09-04T21:57:26 <polydin> but it is incredibly slow
2182018-09-04T21:57:39 <polydin> its been days and it still hasn't loaded
2192018-09-04T21:58:14 <polydin> is this normal?
2202018-09-04T21:58:25 <sipa> with pruning, disk flushing is much more frequent which can hurt performance, especially on systems with sloe i/o
2212018-09-04T21:58:26 <echeveria> you should ask in #bitcoin.
2222018-09-04T21:58:41 <sipa> i believe this is improved in 0.17
2232018-09-04T21:59:11 <polydin> sipa, thanks yeah i was wondering if there was a project in there i could work on
2242018-09-04T21:59:36 <polydin> if there was something i could work on to improve it
2252018-09-04T21:59:51 <polydin> but i guess you guys already did it!
2262018-09-04T22:00:20 <sipa> contributions on other issues are of course always welcome
2272018-09-04T22:01:26 <polydin> are there any other issues you can think of that need working other than the github list?
2282018-09-04T22:01:36 <polydin> like maybe a longer term thing to work on
2292018-09-04T22:01:39 <echeveria> polydin: there's a tag for low hanging, get started fruit.
2302018-09-04T22:02:00 <echeveria> polydin: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/labels/good%20first%20issue
2312018-09-04T22:02:04 <polydin> echeveria, ok thanks i guess i can just check that out
2322018-09-04T22:02:29 <echeveria> polydin: just hanging around here, there's often small tasks commented on
2332018-09-04T22:03:16 <polydin> echeveria, sorry could you rephrase that last sentence, not clear to me?
2342018-09-04T22:03:59 <sipa> polydin: it's useful to just hang out in this irc channel
2352018-09-04T22:04:01 <echeveria> polydin: many times in this channel, people will have suggestions about things that don't make it into issues. there's frequent opportunities to get your teeth into the code.
2362018-09-04T22:04:34 <sipa> also, getting familiar with the project, the source code, and its workflows takes time
2372018-09-04T22:05:03 <sipa> having a specific project is a good way to get going, but getting proficient takes time
2382018-09-04T22:05:05 <polydin> sipa, i know, i've honestly spent so much time reading the code but it seems like i'm better off just contributing to get into hte workflow
2392018-09-04T22:06:07 <polydin> i will start off with the low hanging fruit and build up to a project, thank you so much for your help!
2402018-09-04T22:06:15 <echeveria> polydin: you're invited to message me privately, or ask me on #bitcoin any questions you have about getting started.
2412018-09-04T22:06:38 <echeveria> or here, but this channel isn't great for in depth discussion.
2422018-09-04T22:06:52 <polydin> echeveria, thanks so much!
2432018-09-04T22:07:01 <polydin> is this channel more for just updates about specific PRs and such?
2442018-09-04T22:07:45 <sipa> polydin: no, this channel is about development of bitcoin core
2452018-09-04T22:08:09 <polydin> ok got it, again thanks guys
2462018-09-04T22:08:25 <echeveria> it's just meant to be somewhat low volume so people can kept up with the logs (I've made a point of reading the logs, even if I haven't been here), but not restricted to PR discussion.
2472018-09-04T22:08:27 <sipa> if you have questions about the code, specific PRs, workflow, ... feel free to ask here
2482018-09-04T22:08:50 <sipa> but not general discussion on bitcoin or usage
2492018-09-04T22:09:38 <echeveria> or how to pronounce sipa's name.
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2592018-09-04T22:38:12 <michagogo> Ooh, 0.17 builds on bionic?
2602018-09-04T22:38:13 <michagogo> Cool
2612018-09-04T22:38:40 * michagogo runs make-base-vm and heads towards bed
2622018-09-04T22:44:06 <achow101> michagogo: no guarantee that that's gonna work
2632018-09-04T22:44:25 <achow101> supposedly kvm stil doesn't work, even with the new vm-builder
2642018-09-04T22:44:36 <michagogo> Hmm?
2652018-09-04T22:44:43 <michagogo> That doesnât sound promising
2662018-09-04T22:44:48 <michagogo> Though Iâm using local
2672018-09-04T22:44:53 <michagogo> lxc
2682018-09-04T22:46:11 <michagogo> Wait, does gitian lxc still use vmbuilder and convert, or did it get changed to make it better?
2692018-09-04T22:46:25 <achow101> I think it uses vmbuilder
2702018-09-04T22:46:35 <michagogo> Crap
2712018-09-04T22:46:49 <achow101> I could be wrong
2722018-09-04T22:46:58 <achow101> you should keep an eye on your build though
2732018-09-04T22:47:28 <michagogo> Iâll see later (tomorrow or something) if it worked
2742018-09-04T22:47:37 <michagogo> Itâs almost 2 am here
2752018-09-04T22:55:10 <michagogo> achow101: nope, looks like I remembered correctly
2762018-09-04T22:55:24 <michagogo> It uses debootstrap directly
2772018-09-04T22:56:53 <achow101> ah ok
2782018-09-04T22:56:55 <michagogo> https://github.com/devrandom/gitian-builder/commit/af56f89a6acffd363c845a489ec163f0d85d30be
2792018-09-04T22:57:12 <michagogo> Looks like it went in as a birthday gift for me :D
2802018-09-04T23:03:49 <luke-jr> michagogo: good luck. I had to install by hand
2812018-09-04T23:14:05 <michagogo> luke-jr: perhaps the image itself is broken, but `bin/make-base-vm âlxc âsuite bionic` appears to have completed without errors
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2862018-09-04T23:24:18 <leishman> is there a reason logs don't show up on https://botbot.me/freenode/bitcoin-core-dev/ anymore? Is there a bot user in this channel?
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2892018-09-04T23:27:05 <achow101> leishman: perhaps the bot wasn't able to login after freenode's recent server downtime/maintenance/whatever happened a few days ago
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2922018-09-04T23:29:13 <michagogo> luke-jr: hrm, make-clean-vm fails, some error about lxc-init and a container name or something
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2942018-09-04T23:31:13 <achow101> michagogo: are you using lxc 3?
2952018-09-04T23:31:42 <michagogo> My host is xenial
2962018-09-04T23:32:10 <achow101> what do you get from lxc-start --version
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