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102018-10-01T01:00:35 <MarcoFalke> I'd prefer to move the dbcrash test back to extended tests for now, if it causes timeouts
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262018-10-01T03:25:56 <wumpus> agree
272018-10-01T03:26:32 <wumpus> and would be good to document why it's in the extended test, to prevent people from moving it back and forth all the time
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802018-10-01T10:05:33 <wumpus> release notes merged, going to tag v0.17.0 final in a bit
812018-10-01T10:06:36 <queip> what is the outlook for Bitcoin Core for iOs? Grim? I'm looking forkward to building on top of it, glad to help in testing (though no iOs coding skill myself)
822018-10-01T10:07:03 <queip> abcore for android, wrapping bitcoin core, works fine
832018-10-01T10:09:50 <wumpus> if it's even possible to compile stock C++ projects on iOS, someone could do it, but no one is working on it as far as I know
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892018-10-01T10:49:56 <wumpus> * [new tag] v0.17.0 -> v0.17.0
902018-10-01T10:50:22 <sdaftuar> \o/
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932018-10-01T11:06:14 <sipa> wumpus: \\o \o/ o//
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952018-10-01T11:08:35 <promag> woo hoo!
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1092018-10-01T12:35:32 <jonasschnelli> Core on iOS should not be overcomplicated... the toolchain we use for OSX is IMO also capable to compile for iOS armv7, etc.
1102018-10-01T12:36:15 <jonasschnelli> AFAIK sjors is working on it: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11720
1112018-10-01T12:36:19 <queip> jonasschnelli: I've seen you worked on that, what is the status now actually? to get basic cli
1122018-10-01T12:36:23 <jonasschnelli> #12557
1132018-10-01T12:36:25 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/12557 | [WIP] 64 bit iOs device support by Sjors · Pull Request #12557 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
1142018-10-01T12:36:34 <jonasschnelli> queip: no. I haven't really worked on it.
1152018-10-01T12:36:56 <jonasschnelli> I once did some work for cURL to compile it on iOS... and some other iOS cross compile stuff.
1162018-10-01T12:37:24 <queip> I've worked on gitian builds for mac, if that helps
1172018-10-01T12:37:53 <queip> I wonder between helping bitcoin core to work on iOs [mostly testing], or giving up and libbitcoin or some spv
1182018-10-01T12:37:56 <jonasschnelli> I think getting depends/ ready for iOS is the best thing you could go: #12557
1192018-10-01T12:38:00 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/12557 | [WIP] 64 bit iOs device support by Sjors · Pull Request #12557 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
1202018-10-01T12:38:25 <jonasschnelli> I though fail to see concrete use cases why one would run Bitcoin Core on iOS.
1212018-10-01T12:38:50 <queip> jonasschnelli: validate own money
1222018-10-01T12:39:07 <jonasschnelli> yeah... but the battery!
1232018-10-01T12:39:15 <queip> auto pause
1242018-10-01T12:39:24 <queip> (anyway indeed system will enforce it a lot)
1252018-10-01T12:39:25 <jonasschnelli> Yeah... maybe.
1262018-10-01T12:40:04 <jonasschnelli> If you want to see that happen (I'd like to see that happen as well), maybe help 12557 by commenting, testing, etc.
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1332018-10-01T13:39:22 <achow101> \o/ 0.17.0
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1572018-10-01T16:13:35 <provoostenator> jonasschnelli queip: any help is welcome with that PR. Battery use depends on the application developer, e.g. if you only sync on wifi it shouldn't be too bad.
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1642018-10-01T16:17:14 <provoostenator> Once we have BIP-158 filter support (no plans that I know of), an app could use that while on a mobile network / on battery, only doing full sync on wifi or when receiving a large amount of coins.
1652018-10-01T16:18:22 <provoostenator> (I mean client side BIP-158 filter support, we do have a server side PR)
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1682018-10-01T16:33:15 <luke-jr> provoostenator: could already do it with bloom stuff, albeit not privacy-safe
1692018-10-01T16:34:56 <gmaxwell> it's important to keep in mind that BIP-158 is not private either, it basically has the level of non-privacy bip37 was claimed/intended to have but bip37 turned out a lot worse than intended for several reasons.
1702018-10-01T16:43:44 <luke-jr> gmaxwell: even if you fetch blocks from different peers?
1712018-10-01T16:45:38 <gmaxwell> luke-jr: even if.
1722018-10-01T16:46:00 <luke-jr> how so?
1732018-10-01T16:46:57 <gmaxwell> by listening for a while and correlating what you do send, and/or running multiple sybil peers, so you see most of them anyways.
1742018-10-01T16:47:12 <gmaxwell> Generally any information leak becomes significant if you just wait a while
1752018-10-01T16:47:30 <gmaxwell> also, by paying you dust the attacker can stimulate you to keep fetching blocks
1762018-10-01T16:48:46 <gmaxwell> attacker doesn't even have to pay _you_ dust they can construct an address of their own that collides with yours in the filter, and just pay themselves.
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1782018-10-01T16:51:54 <gmaxwell> er, scratch the doesn't have to dust you part, I forgot that the filter fiat-shamirs with the block hash.
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1852018-10-01T17:35:58 <phantomcircuit> gmaxwell, well and you can pull the bip 158 filters over tor links which are not correlated to each other
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1872018-10-01T17:36:12 <phantomcircuit> but you'd have to do one filter per connection per peer which seems nasty
1882018-10-01T17:36:25 <phantomcircuit> an have some random time delay
1892018-10-01T17:36:33 <phantomcircuit> which vaguely defeats the purpose
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1932018-10-01T17:40:49 <gmaxwell> phantomcircuit: pulling the filters themselves aren't the problem: clients always pull all of them.
1942018-10-01T17:41:13 <gmaxwell> Plugging the blocks is. and indeed, pulling one block per tor connction would go a long way towards improving things.
1952018-10-01T17:41:27 <gmaxwell> but great care would be needed so that querying clients were actually indistinguishable.
1962018-10-01T17:42:19 <luke-jr> too bad nodes probably can't just connect+getblock only, need at least a version msg?
1972018-10-01T17:44:13 <phantomcircuit> should probably have a "standard" version message for that reason
1982018-10-01T17:45:28 <gmaxwell> luke-jr: they do, and we'd want to keep that just because version msg may indicate things that change how stuff gets serialized.
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2012018-10-01T17:48:23 <luke-jr> would be nice if it could be simplified so the client end is just send+recv
2022018-10-01T17:48:49 <luke-jr> (and if the remote node can't handle it, just disconnects)
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2052018-10-01T17:57:22 <phantomcircuit> luke-jr, then each message would need to encode that format it expected in response
2062018-10-01T17:57:51 <luke-jr> well, the send could use a preformatted version message
2072018-10-01T17:59:43 <phantomcircuit> im happy with #14335
2082018-10-01T17:59:45 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/14335 | net: refactor: cleanup ThreadSocketHandler by pstratem · Pull Request #14335 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
2092018-10-01T17:59:53 <phantomcircuit> it's much simplified over the previous cleanup pr
2102018-10-01T18:00:09 <phantomcircuit> everything is just a move into private methods, none of the logic should be changed at all
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2152018-10-01T18:31:18 <rex4539> I'm currently running the extended tests for fun and I'm seeing multiple failures. I have never run the tests before. Is it known that multiple tests fail? Should I file a bug? And if so, one per failure or one that includes all of them?
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2172018-10-01T18:39:54 <phantomcircuit> rex4539, which extended tests?
2182018-10-01T18:40:16 <rex4539> The functional ones.
2192018-10-01T18:40:29 <phantomcircuit> rex4539, what commit?
2202018-10-01T18:40:50 <rex4539> Latest master.
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2222018-10-01T18:42:17 <phantomcircuit> rex4539, those same tests are run by travis which is doing continuous integration
2232018-10-01T18:42:39 <phantomcircuit> current master is https://travis-ci.org/bitcoin/bitcoin/builds/435543663?utm_source=github_status&utm_medium=notification
2242018-10-01T18:42:57 <phantomcircuit> did you build with weird configuration flags or on a weird system?
2252018-10-01T18:43:54 <rex4539> I configured --with-gui=qt5 and I'm on macOS 10.13.6
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2282018-10-01T18:46:31 <promag> rex4539: mind sharing those errors?
2292018-10-01T18:50:21 <rex4539> The test suite just finished. The ones that failed are: wallet_backup.py, feature_dbcrash.py, feature_block.py, feature_segwit.py, mining_prioritisetransaction.py, feature_assumevalid.py, rpc_createmultisig.py, feature_versionbits_warning.py, feature_nulldummy.py, wallet_import_rescan.py, wallet_bumpfee.py, mempool_packages.py, feature_dersig.py, feature_cltv.py, feature_pruning.py
2302018-10-01T18:55:01 <rex4539> Here's one example -> https://pastebin.com/7VUxBTue
2312018-10-01T18:59:12 <promag> running just, for instance, test/functional/feature_nulldummy.py also fails?
2322018-10-01T19:00:56 <rex4539> It passes. Also tried another one and passes too.
2332018-10-01T19:03:21 <promag> I guess it's some issue in your system
2342018-10-01T19:04:59 <promag> try test_runner with --jobs=1
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