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  32019-07-22T00:09:44  <hugohn> ok that approach makes the most sense to me as well.
  42019-07-22T00:11:47  <hugohn> will update the PR. thanks sipa achow101.
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 772019-07-22T07:52:56  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] torkelrogstad closed pull request #16076: Docs: Add note on precedence of options in bitcoin.conf (master...patch-1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16076
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1152019-07-22T11:43:26  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #16433: txmempool: Remove unused default value MemPoolRemovalReason::UNKNOWN (master...1907-txmempoolNoUnknownDefault) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16433
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1252019-07-22T12:19:27  <MarcoFalke> wumpus: Could you take another look at #16366?
1262019-07-22T12:19:30  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/16366 | init: Use InitError for all errors in bitcoind/qt by MarcoFalke · Pull Request #16366 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
1272019-07-22T12:21:22  <MarcoFalke> It fixes the tests and has two acks
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1372019-07-22T12:39:28  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] domob1812 opened pull request #16434: Specify AM_CPPFLAGS for ZMQ (master...zmq-cppflags) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16434
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1582019-07-22T14:29:03  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] sdaftuar closed pull request #15505: [p2p] Request NOTFOUND transactions immediately from other outbound peers, when possible (master...2019-02-notfound-requests) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15505
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1602019-07-22T14:30:08  <sdaftuar> I'd really like some review on #15305 -- I think it's a relatively straightforward bugfix.
1612019-07-22T14:30:11  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/15305 | [validation] Crash if disconnecting a block fails by sdaftuar · Pull Request #15305 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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1652019-07-22T14:51:23  <jonasschnelli> looks like 0.18.1rc1 is ready for codesign? objections?
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1682019-07-22T14:57:36  <elichai2> Hi, not sure if this is the best place to ask but is there a good `mediawiki` editor out there?(for BIPs etc.)
1692019-07-22T14:59:06  <jonasschnelli> elichai2: good questions. I use the GitHub gist editor. Probably bad advice.
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1772019-07-22T15:14:25  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] dongcarl opened pull request #16435: autoconf: Sane `--enable-debug` defaults. (master...2019-07-better-debuggability) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16435
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1832019-07-22T15:25:17  <jonasschnelli> Somehow "make check" fails on a X86 host while running the linux 32bit tests:
1842019-07-22T15:25:18  <jonasschnelli> https://bitcoinbuilds.org/index.php?ansilog=5ad080d1-51ac-4876-8d1d-397d4d7f2a7c.log#l2990
1852019-07-22T15:25:20  <jonasschnelli> Any ideas?
1862019-07-22T15:25:39  <jonasschnelli> fontconfig / xorg is installed
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1902019-07-22T15:31:27  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto opened pull request #16436: Do not create payment server if -disablewallet option provided (master...20190722-payment-server) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16436
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1922019-07-22T15:36:50  <jb55> how common are 500 errors when doing reviews. dang that is annoying
1932019-07-22T15:38:15  <dongcarl> same here...
1942019-07-22T15:38:55  <hebasto> and here...
1952019-07-22T15:38:57  <dongcarl> jonasschnelli: Did you install from depends?
1962019-07-22T15:39:08  <dongcarl> jonasschnelli: Did you install multilib fontconfig?
1972019-07-22T15:39:37  <jonasschnelli> dongcarl: depends... yes. I only did "apt install xorg" on the x86 host.
1982019-07-22T15:39:44  <jonasschnelli> How do I install multilib fontconfig?
1992019-07-22T15:40:12  <dongcarl> jonasschnelli: You're on Ubuntu?
2002019-07-22T15:40:55  <dongcarl> jonasschnelli: I think... `apt-get install libfontconfig1:i386`
2012019-07-22T15:41:14  <dongcarl> Does `bitcoin-qt` start at least?
2022019-07-22T15:41:17  <dongcarl> Or not even
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2042019-07-22T15:41:33  <jonasschnelli> dongcarl: I haven't tried... only make check with start that minimal qt tests
2052019-07-22T15:41:54  <jonasschnelli> let me try libfontconfig1:i386
2062019-07-22T15:42:03  <dongcarl> jonasschnelli: Let me know 1. If `bitcoin-qt` starts by itself 2. what the output of `ldd bitcoin-qt` is
2072019-07-22T15:43:03  <cfields> gitian builders: detached sigs for v0.18.1rc1 are up
2082019-07-22T15:43:04  <jonasschnelli> dongcarl: its running in the CI,... need to change things in order to do that... but let me check
2092019-07-22T15:43:11  <jonasschnelli> thanks cfields
2102019-07-22T15:44:56  <hebasto> gh seems down...
2112019-07-22T15:45:19  <cfields> jonasschnelli: I'll close the PR when github decides to start doing stuff again.
2122019-07-22T15:46:54  <jb55> I'll review someone's PR if they email me the patchset with git-send-email :]
2132019-07-22T15:47:44  <jb55> *decentralized*
2142019-07-22T15:50:57  <jonasschnelli> dongcarl: E: Unable to locate package libfontconfig1:i386
2152019-07-22T15:51:43  <dongcarl> jonasschnelli: https://blog.teststation.org/ubuntu/2016/05/12/installing-32-bit-software-on-ubuntu-16.04/
2162019-07-22T15:51:54  <jonasschnelli> I guess dpkg --add-architecture frst
2172019-07-22T15:52:17  <dongcarl> This is just speculating a little, I don't know what's really wrong till I have a `ldd bitcoin-qt` or something
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2192019-07-22T15:53:29  <achow101> is github down again?
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2212019-07-22T15:53:49  <achow101> getting 500s when I try to look at any pr
2222019-07-22T15:53:49  <dongcarl> achow101: Appears their pulls and issues are down
2232019-07-22T15:53:55  <cfields> dongcarl: no need to speculate, his log shows that "libfontconfig.so.1" is missing. That's how ldd will report it as well.
2242019-07-22T15:54:36  <dongcarl> cfields: My suspicion is that other 32-bit libs are also missing...
2252019-07-22T15:55:25  <cfields> ah, ok.
2262019-07-22T15:56:26  <dongcarl> While people are here... Anyone got a good trick for identifying serialization call-sites for a class?
2272019-07-22T15:56:46  <sipa> dongcarl: comment it out and see where you get compile errors
2282019-07-22T15:57:20  <dongcarl> sipa: that's... pretty good
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2312019-07-22T16:07:16  <jb55> https://www.githubstatus.com/incidents/8x69vj1xyp9v
2322019-07-22T16:11:36  <emilengler> 500 Error for me too
2332019-07-22T16:15:24  <emilengler> Is the inital block syncing done by multithreading or async stuff?
2342019-07-22T16:15:49  <emilengler> Like are there multiple threads who are downloading the blockchain simultaneously
2352019-07-22T16:20:45  <jonasschnelli> dongcarl: indeed libfontconfig1:i386 libxcb1:i386 where missing...
2362019-07-22T16:21:02  <dongcarl> jonasschnelli: Haha nice!
2372019-07-22T16:21:06  <dongcarl> It's working now?
2382019-07-22T16:21:31  <jonasschnelli> jup. https://bitcoinbuilds.org/index.php?job=a745c8f1-051a-4cfd-b1fa-cd42a2ac3b01. Thanks
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2402019-07-22T16:23:52  <dongcarl> jonasschnelli: Very cool tool!
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2422019-07-22T16:24:55  <jonasschnelli> its evolving...
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2442019-07-22T16:25:10  <dongcarl> jonasschnelli: btw just so you're aware, we have #bitcoin-builds
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2462019-07-22T16:25:31  <jonasschnelli> dongcarl: oh. Yeah. I should join there I guess.
2472019-07-22T16:25:52  <dongcarl> :-)
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2742019-07-22T18:22:02  <Raystonn> What's the current mindset on Rust?  Any plans to analyze its potential use in portions of Core?
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2792019-07-22T18:32:58  <jb55> Raystonn: seems unlikely, the engineering effort required for maintaining two different compilers/languages/codebases would be super janky.
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2862019-07-22T18:52:25  <provoostenator> dongcarl: are the guix instructions supposed to work for 0.18.1 as well? Building Docker now, so can compare...
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2882019-07-22T18:54:13  <dongcarl> provoostenator: I haven't backported to 0.18.1 yet, but good reminder that I should allow building of any bitcoin git repo, not just the current tree!
2892019-07-22T18:54:28  <provoostenator> Ok, just tag me if you need testing...
2902019-07-22T18:54:34  <dongcarl> provoostenator: <3
2912019-07-22T18:54:40  <dongcarl> will do!
2922019-07-22T18:55:16  <emilengler> In which file/function the blockchain is being downloaded?
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2942019-07-22T18:59:15  <dongcarl> emilengler: This might be a good start: https://dev.visucore.com/bitcoin/doxygen/net__processing_8cpp.html#a1224d372c5701f0279112c2a61514d98
2952019-07-22T19:00:24  <emilengler> dongcarl, thank you
2962019-07-22T19:30:13  <dongcarl> wumpus: In addrv2, couldn't we save 1 byte per address if we don't encode the `addr` as a `std::vector`? If I'm understanding correctly, encoding `std::vector` means encoding a VarInt for the length first, then the contents, but we can infer the size of `addr` from `networkID`, right?
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2982019-07-22T19:30:15  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #16437: Always connect NotifyEntryRemoved with MempoolEntryRemoved (master...1907-AlwaysNotifyMempoolEntryRemoved) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16437
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3012019-07-22T19:33:19  <sipa> dongcarl: the mapping between network id and length isn't known for unknown network ids
3022019-07-22T19:33:42  <sipa> and old clients must be able to deserialize addresses of unknown network ids i think
3032019-07-22T19:34:47  <sipa> elichai2: seems my math was off, 1B signature validations at 5us/sig is 50k seconds, not 500k seconds
3042019-07-22T19:35:18  <elichai2> with or without libgmp?
3052019-07-22T19:36:28  <sipa> not relevant :)
3062019-07-22T19:36:32  <sipa> my math was off
3072019-07-22T19:36:45  <sipa> by a factor 10
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3092019-07-22T19:43:44  <luke-jr> Raystonn: Rust can't be securely bootstrapped, so that seems like a bad idea for now
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3112019-07-22T19:48:25  <cfields> Uhh, I pushed the detached sigs to github, but I don't see them now. Maybe they got lost in the downtime?
3122019-07-22T19:48:54  <cfields> Did anyone manage to fetch the v0.18.1rc1 tag from bitcoin-detached-sigs ?
3132019-07-22T19:50:58  * cfields pushes again
3142019-07-22T19:54:41  <dongcarl> sipa: Does this matter if we're going to be introducing a new message type? Old clients won't understand this new message type...
3152019-07-22T19:55:02  <sipa> dongcarl: that's not what i'm talking about
3162019-07-22T19:55:09  <sipa> i mean when say Torv4 is introduced
3172019-07-22T19:55:17  <dongcarl> Right
3182019-07-22T19:55:22  <sipa> post-addrv4 but pre-torv4 clients won't understand it
3192019-07-22T19:55:52  <dongcarl> s/post-addrv4/post-addrv2/
3202019-07-22T19:56:05  <sipa> yeah
3212019-07-22T19:56:18  <dongcarl> If they don't understand it... why can't they just drop that address?
3222019-07-22T19:56:51  <sipa> because they can't deserialize _anything_
3232019-07-22T19:57:19  <sipa> you send them an addr with 1000 addresses in it, if there is only one torv4 in there, they can't deserialize the whole vectors
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3252019-07-22T19:58:20  <dongcarl> sipa: Ah! That would be unfortunate...
3262019-07-22T20:01:20  <luke-jr> maybe the entire field (not just the address) should be given the length?
3272019-07-22T20:04:37  <dongcarl> luke-jr: What would be the benefit of doing that?
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3332019-07-22T20:17:31  <achow101> cfields: I was able to fetch them
3342019-07-22T20:21:59  <elichai2> luke-jr: https://guix.gnu.org/blog/2018/bootstrapping-rust/
3352019-07-22T20:23:24  <luke-jr> dongcarl: you could skip each address object if you didn't understand it, whether the confusion is part of the address itself or anything else
3362019-07-22T20:23:49  <luke-jr> elichai2: mrustc only works on backdoored CPUs
3372019-07-22T20:28:11  <sipa> i think the biggest concern with rust is introducing a new programming language to the project few contributors are familiar with
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3392019-07-22T20:31:22  <emilengler> Can someone with permission restart this job?
3402019-07-22T20:31:24  <emilengler> https://travis-ci.org/bitcoin/bitcoin/builds/562237872?utm_source=github_status&utm_medium=notification
3412019-07-22T20:31:45  <emilengler> thanks
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3462019-07-22T20:52:55  <Raystonn> luke-jr: I assume you mean only on Intel or AMD CPUs?
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3502019-07-22T21:10:54  <luke-jr> Raystonn: yes
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3552019-07-22T21:34:53  <Raystonn> luke-jr: Is your Bitcoin Core development platform running an ARM processor?
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3572019-07-22T21:36:42  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #16438: travis: Print memory and number of cpus (master...1907-travisFreeProc) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16438
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3612019-07-22T22:11:11  <luke-jr> Raystonn: PPC64
3622019-07-22T22:16:40  <Raystonn> What CPUs, or CPU manufacturers,  do you trust?
3632019-07-22T22:17:23  <luke-jr> IBM POWER9 in this case
3642019-07-22T22:20:56  <Raystonn> If we really want to verify, we'd need to start with RISC-V, no?
3652019-07-22T22:21:16  <luke-jr> afaik POWER is more open than RISC-V at the moment
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