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592020-02-13T02:39:08 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] luke-jr opened pull request #18133: Fix various edge case bugs in QValidatedLineEdit (master...bugfix_qvalidlineedit) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18133
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922020-02-13T04:19:56 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Empact opened pull request #18134: Replace std::to_string with locale-independent alternative (master...2020-02-to-string) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18134
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1432020-02-13T07:01:48 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #18135: build: add --no-insert-timestamp to Windows linker flags (master...no_insert_timestamp_ld) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18135
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1642020-02-13T07:45:21 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jonasschnelli pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/2bdc476d4d23...b6a16fa44ef2
1652020-02-13T07:45:21 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master bf36a3c Russell Yanofsky: gui: Fix race in WalletModel::pollBalanceChanged
1662020-02-13T07:45:22 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master b6a16fa Jonas Schnelli: Merge #18123: gui: Fix race in WalletModel::pollBalanceChanged
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1692020-02-13T07:45:40 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jonasschnelli merged pull request #18123: gui: Fix race in WalletModel::pollBalanceChanged (master...pr/pollbug) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18123
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1732020-02-13T07:48:35 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jonasschnelli pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/b6a16fa44ef2...0c20809da85a
1742020-02-13T07:48:35 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master c9fe612 Hennadii Stepanov: gui: Throttle GUI update pace when -reindex
1752020-02-13T07:48:36 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 0c20809 Jonas Schnelli: Merge #18121: gui: Throttle GUI update pace when -reindex
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1782020-02-13T07:48:55 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jonasschnelli merged pull request #18121: gui: Throttle GUI update pace when -reindex (master...20200211-reindex-gui) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18121
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2012020-02-13T09:26:39 <fanquake> wumpus sipa can you block https://github.com/1b3634f6-9166-46d7-a43a-51d575159cf0 from the wiki / repo
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2292020-02-13T12:06:25 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Bushstar opened pull request #18138: build: remove redundant compiler error supression (master...redundant-no-error) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18138
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2592020-02-13T14:24:38 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #18139: doc: Add missing author to 0.19.1 release notes (0.19...2002-docRelAuth) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18139
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2662020-02-13T14:56:29 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Bushstar closed pull request #18138: build: remove redundant compiler warning suppression (master...redundant-no-error) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18138
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2762020-02-13T15:27:58 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 commits to 0.19: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/628103d67302...a28ea316ed47
2772020-02-13T15:27:59 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/0.19 facbdc0 MarcoFalke: doc: Add missing author to 0.19.1 release notes
2782020-02-13T15:27:59 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/0.19 a28ea31 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #18139: doc: Add missing author to 0.19.1 release notes
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2822020-02-13T15:28:18 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #18139: doc: Add missing author to 0.19.1 release notes (0.19...2002-docRelAuth) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18139
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2842020-02-13T15:34:16 <promag> wumpus: sorry, bad week with flu.. will try to catch especially those that I think should go before feature freeze
2852020-02-13T15:36:00 <wumpus> promag: thanks, no problem (I'm not sure anything needs to be done for #17746)
2862020-02-13T15:36:04 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/17746 | rpc: Remove vector copy from listtransactions by promag · Pull Request #17746 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
2872020-02-13T15:37:00 <promag> I'll add Russell suggestions
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2892020-02-13T15:38:47 <jonatack> Should #17812 be tagged for v0.20? (also, is a release note needed for the asmap config?)
2902020-02-13T15:38:50 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/17812 | config, net, test: asmap functional tests and feature refinements by jonatack · Pull Request #17812 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
2912020-02-13T15:40:17 <wumpus> it would definitely be nice to have a release note for asmap, noting that it's an experimental feature, what it does, a link to how to use it
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2942020-02-13T15:45:55 <jonatack> yes. will propose this weekend (separately from 17812 since it already has review and acks) if gleb doesn't do one before
2952020-02-13T15:46:37 <jonatack> heh, only now realised that it's friday already
2962020-02-13T15:47:09 <jonatack> err, thursday
2972020-02-13T15:49:01 <luke-jr> would asmap be worth including in Knots 0.19.1 for some earlier testing? mostly I'd just need to get rid of the dummy binary file (patch doesn't like those)
2982020-02-13T15:49:36 <sipa> i don't think we're planning on distributing the map file yet
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3002020-02-13T15:50:32 <luke-jr> sipa: last time I looked, the PR had a like ~30 byte binary file included?
3012020-02-13T15:50:41 <luke-jr> I assume an empty asmap
3022020-02-13T15:53:20 <jonatack> sipa: ETA? is review needed in sipa/asmap? fwiw i've been running an experimental node since weeks with sipa/asmap/demo.map (932999 bytes)
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3042020-02-13T15:56:05 <sipa> luke-jr: oh, that's for the testz
3052020-02-13T15:56:19 <sipa> we have plenty of binary files for testing, no?
3062020-02-13T15:56:22 <luke-jr> ah, I can probably just drop the test then
3072020-02-13T15:56:44 <luke-jr> sipa: probably, but I distribute Knots in patch form, so I can't add binary files
3082020-02-13T15:57:10 <luke-jr> keyword: add
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3122020-02-13T16:07:43 <sipa> ah
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3142020-02-13T16:08:09 <sipa> jonatack: ETA for what?
3152020-02-13T16:13:32 <jonatack> sipa: distributing the map file. still, users may want to generate their own, i suppose?
3162020-02-13T16:14:33 <jonatack> (this is unclear to me and i should look at that)
3172020-02-13T16:15:33 * luke-jr wonders how much damage a malicious asmap could do
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3292020-02-13T16:38:05 <sipa> jonatack: i think the plan was to not have a distributed one in the first release
3302020-02-13T16:39:35 * jonatack reading irc discussion at http://www.erisian.com.au/bitcoin-core-dev/log-2019-06-20.html#l-518
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3452020-02-13T17:18:30 <wumpus> sipa: agree, not for 0.20
3462020-02-13T17:19:24 <wumpus> luke-jr: with regard to malicious asmaps, I wouldn't assume the curent code is completely hardened against that, there might be more bugs like the one in https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18023/commits/c86bc144081f960347232546f7d22deb65d27deb
3472020-02-13T17:27:04 <vasild> #17563 fixes a compilation error on FreeBSD (assuming -Werror). Right now I have to apply that fix on top of whatever other changes I have made in order to compile (I refuse to depart from -Werror). Would be nice to get some more reviews. It already has one ACK.
3482020-02-13T17:27:07 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/17563 | lib: fix a compiler warning: unused GetDevURandom() by vasild · Pull Request #17563 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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3502020-02-13T17:36:13 <jonatack> luke-jr: i began writing tests for unparseable asmap files but the scope goes beyond the changes in the open PR, see https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17812/#discussion_r377734856
3512020-02-13T17:37:51 <jonatack> also there is work that can be done on the unit tests
3522020-02-13T17:39:34 <luke-jr> wumpus: I was thinking more like getting nodes to connect to malicious peers
3532020-02-13T17:41:13 <sipa> luke-jr: in that case, yes, trivially
3542020-02-13T17:41:31 <sipa> mark the entire internet except the attacker's range as one AS
3552020-02-13T17:41:59 <luke-jr> sipa: you wouldn't end up with at least half the peers from the internet?
3562020-02-13T17:42:55 <sipa> no; the attacker would mark each of his IPs as separate ASes
3572020-02-13T17:43:00 <wumpus> heh
3582020-02-13T17:43:05 <sipa> and then the rest of the internet as one
3592020-02-13T17:43:31 <luke-jr> o
3602020-02-13T17:46:00 <jonatack> perhaps some sanity checks could be added
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3632020-02-13T17:50:36 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/0c20809da85a...470664f2b788
3642020-02-13T17:50:37 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 25bc17f João Barbosa: refactor: rpc: Remove vector copy from listtransactions
3652020-02-13T17:50:37 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 470664f Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #17746: refactor: rpc: Remove vector copy from listtransactions
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3682020-02-13T17:51:01 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #17746: refactor: rpc: Remove vector copy from listtransactions (master...2019-12-listtransactions) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17746
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3782020-02-13T18:26:39 <dongcarl> If I understand correctly... we only have one codesigner for windows?
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3802020-02-13T18:28:07 <cfields_> dongcarl: yup
3812020-02-13T18:28:28 <dongcarl> who's the assigned codesigner?
3822020-02-13T18:28:36 <cfields_> and the cert expires in March, should probably discuss.
3832020-02-13T18:28:39 <cfields_> dongcarl: me
3842020-02-13T18:29:25 <cfields_> dongcarl: why do you ask?
3852020-02-13T18:29:30 <dongcarl> Ah okay, question: in both release-process.md and gitian-win-signer.yml, there's reference to a bitcoin-osx-unsigned.tar.gz
3862020-02-13T18:29:53 <dongcarl> However, I only ever see a bitcoin-0.19.99-win-unsigned.tar.gz in the output... is it manually renamed?
3872020-02-13T18:30:34 <dongcarl> sorry I mean... bitcoin-win-unsigned.tar.gz
3882020-02-13T18:31:11 <cfields_> "tar xf ../bitcoin-0.19.1rc2-win-unsigned.tar.gz"
3892020-02-13T18:31:28 <cfields_> Is what I unpacked to sign rc2
3902020-02-13T18:32:27 <cfields_> Oh, sorry. This is in my building script:
3912020-02-13T18:32:48 <cfields_> cp build/out/*-win-unsigned.tar.gz inputs/bitcoin-win-unsigned.tar.gz
3922020-02-13T18:34:29 <dongcarl> cfields_: Okay so is the codesigning done outside of gitian? And the gitian-win-signer.yml is just the signature attachment that's doable by everyone?
3932020-02-13T18:34:29 <cfields_> dongcarl: IIRC it's to avoid having to change the gitian recipe for each release.
3942020-02-13T18:34:46 <cfields_> Right
3952020-02-13T18:35:13 <wumpus> yes, gitian-win-signer attached the signature and validates the result IIRC
3962020-02-13T18:35:38 <dongcarl> I see, this is roughly the same for gitian-osx-signer as well?
3972020-02-13T18:35:47 <cfields_> I take bitcoin-0.19.99-win-unsigned.tar.gz, untar it, run the script inside, and commit the results to bitcoin-detached-sigs
3982020-02-13T18:35:49 <cfields_> Yup
3992020-02-13T18:35:51 <dongcarl> (I'm implementing the functionality in guix right now that's why I'm asking)
4002020-02-13T18:36:28 <dongcarl> cool, thanks!
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4022020-02-13T18:36:33 <cfields_> Ok. No need to emulate the name weirdness. Renaming to bitcoin-win-unsigned.tar.gz is just a hack.
4032020-02-13T18:36:45 <cfields_> and same for osx.
4042020-02-13T18:36:54 <dongcarl> roger that!
4052020-02-13T18:38:01 <cfields_> #proposedmeetingtopic expiring Windows codesigning key
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4072020-02-13T18:40:51 <kanzure> #proposedmeetingtopic topic collection for physical meeting (follow-up)
4082020-02-13T18:54:01 <achow101> dongcarl: #14325 changed the gitian-build.py script to use the versioned tarball instead of the generic one so that you could do concurrent release builds
4092020-02-13T18:54:04 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/14325 | [gitian] use versioned unsigned tarballs instead of generically named ones by achow101 · Pull Request #14325 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
4102020-02-13T18:55:37 <dongcarl> achow101: Ah. There are too many places to look for what gitian is actually doing... Thanks for the pointer
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4132020-02-13T19:00:50 <wumpus> #startmeeting
4142020-02-13T19:00:50 <lightningbot> Meeting started Thu Feb 13 19:00:50 2020 UTC. The chair is wumpus. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
4152020-02-13T19:00:50 <lightningbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic.
4162020-02-13T19:00:54 <jnewbery> hi
4172020-02-13T19:00:58 <cfields_> hi
4182020-02-13T19:01:07 <fjahr> hi
4192020-02-13T19:01:08 <wumpus> #bitcoin-core-dev Meeting: wumpus sipa gmaxwell jonasschnelli morcos luke-jr sdaftuar jtimon cfields petertodd kanzure bluematt instagibbs phantomcircuit codeshark michagogo marcofalke paveljanik NicolasDorier jl2012 achow101 meshcollider jnewbery maaku fanquake promag provoostenator aj Chris_Stewart_5 dongcarl gwillen jamesob ken281221 ryanofsky gleb moneyball kvaciral ariard digi_james amiti fjahr
4202020-02-13T19:01:09 <wumpus> jeremyrubin lightlike emilengler jonatack hebasto jb55
4212020-02-13T19:01:10 <provoostenator> hi
4222020-02-13T19:01:12 <hebasto> hi
4232020-02-13T19:01:12 <amiti> hi
4242020-02-13T19:01:12 <emilengler> hi
4252020-02-13T19:01:13 <jonasschnelli> hi
4262020-02-13T19:01:14 <kanzure> hi
4272020-02-13T19:01:15 <jb55> hi
4282020-02-13T19:01:15 <jonatack> hi
4292020-02-13T19:01:21 <jkczyz> hi
4302020-02-13T19:01:31 <achow101> hi
4312020-02-13T19:02:14 <wumpus> no proposed topics for today in https://gist.github.com/moneyball/071d608fdae217c2a6d7c35955881d8a, but some have been proposed above by cfields_ and kanzure
4322020-02-13T19:02:28 <wumpus> kanzure | #proposedmeetingtopic topic collection for physical meeting (follow-up)
4332020-02-13T19:02:29 <kanzure> oh it's not an automated tool
4342020-02-13T19:02:41 <kanzure> yeah so i'm still collecting topic suggestions for coredev.tech meeting
4352020-02-13T19:02:45 <wumpus> cfields_ | #proposedmeetingtopic expiring Windows codesigning key
4362020-02-13T19:03:12 <wumpus> no it's not automated afaik
4372020-02-13T19:03:23 <wumpus> any other last minute topics?
4382020-02-13T19:03:30 <cfields_> Oh whoops, I thought something scraped them too.
4392020-02-13T19:03:45 <achow101> should make an automated tool to collect those
4402020-02-13T19:04:10 <wumpus> I'm sure moneyball will be thankful if you make one :)
4412020-02-13T19:05:00 <wumpus> #topic High priority for review
4422020-02-13T19:05:21 <provoostenator> I'd like to nominate #17509 for hi-prio review (gwillen has a PR on top)
4432020-02-13T19:05:23 <wumpus> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/projects/8 -- 8 blockers, 1 bugfix, 6 chasing concept
4442020-02-13T19:05:23 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/17509 | gui: save and load PSBT by Sjors · Pull Request #17509 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
4452020-02-13T19:05:54 <achow101> Replace #16528 with #18034. we keep deciding it's a good idea to stack more PRs before descriptor wallets :/
4462020-02-13T19:05:56 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/16528 | Native Descriptor Wallets using DescriptorScriptPubKeyMan by achow101 · Pull Request #16528 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
4472020-02-13T19:05:57 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/18034 | Get the OutputType for a descriptor by achow101 · Pull Request #18034 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
4482020-02-13T19:07:08 <wumpus> 17509 added
4492020-02-13T19:07:17 <meshcollider> hi
4502020-02-13T19:07:27 <wumpus> achow101: why is that? (deciding to stack more PRs)
4512020-02-13T19:08:53 <moneyball> i would very much welcome a tool that automates my process of downloading the log archive and grep'ing for proposed meeting topics!
4522020-02-13T19:09:07 <wumpus> replaced 16528 with 18034
4532020-02-13T19:09:13 <achow101> mostly just cleaning things up so descriptor wallets is slightly less painful to review
4542020-02-13T19:09:47 <achow101> missed a few things during all of the wallet boxes stuff, including a glaring hole in the design itself that doesn't work with hardware wallets
4552020-02-13T19:09:54 <wumpus> okay if it helps review that's good
4562020-02-13T19:10:06 <wumpus> whoops
4572020-02-13T19:11:02 <wumpus> #topic Expiring windows codesigning key (cfields_)
4582020-02-13T19:11:32 <cfields_> For once we're not scrambling to deal with an expired codesigning cert. The current Windows cert expires on Mar 26, 23:59:59 2020 GMT. We'll need to renew before then.
4592020-02-13T19:11:33 <cfields_> Last year gwillen was kind enough to renew the cert for us.
4602020-02-13T19:12:02 <cfields_> Also, it probably makes sense for the signer to be someone more active.
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4622020-02-13T19:12:50 <wumpus> any volunteers? what's involved?
4632020-02-13T19:12:57 <achow101> does it require a windows machine?
4642020-02-13T19:13:11 <jonasschnelli> We could purchase it via the Bitcoin Core Code Signing Association
4652020-02-13T19:13:19 <wumpus> jonasschnelli: was about to suggest that
4662020-02-13T19:13:20 <jonasschnelli> (make sure the certificate belong to that name)
4672020-02-13T19:13:34 <cfields_> No, Windows isn't required. You hold a key and run a bash script for each release.
4682020-02-13T19:13:41 <jonasschnelli> there are no funds though,.. :)
4692020-02-13T19:14:26 <jonatack> how often does the cert expire?
4702020-02-13T19:14:38 <cfields_> Since it's not a rush this time, I can open a github issue to discuss.
4712020-02-13T19:14:40 <wumpus> how expensive is a cert?
4722020-02-13T19:14:50 <cfields_> jonatack: This one was a 1year, I think you can also buy a 2.
4732020-02-13T19:15:08 <jonasschnelli> Last time I checked most cert where around 200usd
4742020-02-13T19:15:09 <cfields_> wumpus: good question, sec.
4752020-02-13T19:15:12 <jonasschnelli> (per year)
4762020-02-13T19:15:26 <jonasschnelli> always depends on the issuer...
4772020-02-13T19:15:35 <wumpus> I guess we can't use the travel fund for this?
4782020-02-13T19:15:48 <jonasschnelli> we could... or we find a generous sponsor. :)
4792020-02-13T19:15:53 <achow101> I could do the signing. I've done every gitian build for quite a while, usually on time
4802020-02-13T19:15:56 <jonasschnelli> I sponsor the apple one already,...
4812020-02-13T19:16:16 <jonasschnelli> ack on achow101
4822020-02-13T19:16:23 <jonasschnelli> (thanks for volunteering)
4832020-02-13T19:16:27 <wumpus> sounds good to me!
4842020-02-13T19:16:48 <cfields_> Yeah, I can't find the price off-hand, but it was somewhere under $200. IIRC closer to $100 for the 1yr.
4852020-02-13T19:17:09 <jonasschnelli> I guess its best if you achow101 purchase the cert.. we can pay it via the coredev.tech fund if no-one opposes that
4862020-02-13T19:17:36 <wumpus> +1
4872020-02-13T19:17:51 <wumpus> but sure, if we can find another sponsor that'd be great
4882020-02-13T19:18:13 <achow101> sure
4892020-02-13T19:18:23 <kanzure> moneyball: http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/proposedmeetingtopics.txt should have topics collected ~5 minutes before each meeting. let me know if it breaks.
4902020-02-13T19:18:24 <jonasschnelli> thanks to a falling USD, the coredev.tech bitcoin holding have quite some purchase power
4912020-02-13T19:18:54 <cfields_> Under $100: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15682#issuecomment-477486862
4922020-02-13T19:19:32 <achow101> I wonder if I can expense it to blockstream...
4932020-02-13T19:19:45 <jonasschnelli> heh. try it!
4942020-02-13T19:19:46 <cfields_> I can buy if we can't find a sponsor. Buying my way out :)
4952020-02-13T19:20:11 <jonasschnelli> cfields_: you did great! No need to buy yourself out
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4972020-02-13T19:21:03 <achow101> cfields_: is the script(s) in contrib/windeploy?
4982020-02-13T19:21:05 <wumpus> yes, thanks for all your work
4992020-02-13T19:21:12 <cfields_> Ok, will discuss with achow outside of the meeting.
5002020-02-13T19:21:26 <achow101> +1
5012020-02-13T19:21:30 <wumpus> #topic Topic collection for physical meeting (kanzure)
5022020-02-13T19:21:50 <kanzure> yeah still collecting topics, let me know what you do or don't want to hear about
5032020-02-13T19:21:51 <cfields_> achow101: yes, but gitian spits them out. It's as simple as running a script from the gitian payload.
5042020-02-13T19:22:29 <kanzure> things on the list include stuff like guix, more build stuff, erlay, miniscript integration, descriptor wallets
5052020-02-13T19:23:02 <kanzure> HWI updates will probably get in there...
5062020-02-13T19:23:17 <kanzure> oh and forgot about taproot. anyway, that's all.
5072020-02-13T19:23:29 <achow101> kanzure: oh yeah, HWI. add that to mine
5082020-02-13T19:24:23 <kanzure> added.
5092020-02-13T19:24:32 <kanzure> i think hearing about the fuzzing work would be interesting
5102020-02-13T19:24:42 <jnewbery> people have given me some topic requests in the survey responses. I'll pass those on to you, kanzure
5112020-02-13T19:24:47 <kanzure> thank you
5122020-02-13T19:25:18 <kanzure> another note here's my two second hack for proposedmeetingtopic scraping (set to run 5 minutes before the meeting time each day) http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/proposedmeetingtopics.txt
5132020-02-13T19:25:35 <jnewbery> incidentally, thank you to everyone who replied to the survey (30 responses so far). Very much appreciate your time. I'll present aggregate results at coredev
5142020-02-13T19:27:01 <cfields_> kanzure: heh, nice.
5152020-02-13T19:28:04 <wumpus> that was quick :)
5162020-02-13T19:28:25 <wumpus> any other topics?
5172020-02-13T19:29:34 <wumpus> nothing else to discuss?
5182020-02-13T19:29:51 <kanzure> i am now daily timestamping the logs?
5192020-02-13T19:30:03 <emilengler> cool
5202020-02-13T19:30:28 <kanzure> http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/timestamps/
5212020-02-13T19:30:33 <kanzure> not much of a topic :)
5222020-02-13T19:30:42 <emilengler> well but good to know
5232020-02-13T19:31:03 <jeremyrubin> hi
5242020-02-13T19:31:26 <cfields_> oh, quick last-second thing...
5252020-02-13T19:31:28 <jonasschnelli> macOS notarization is also done now. We start with the next release
5262020-02-13T19:31:29 <wumpus> nice!
5272020-02-13T19:31:56 <cfields_> would there still be interest in a multi-signer protocol for codesigning? That might be a good project for a student around here.
5282020-02-13T19:32:13 <cfields_> Not for this time around, ofc. But maybe for next time.
5292020-02-13T19:32:24 <jonasschnelli> I question if it is worth the effort... but if someone is up for... yeah. Why not
5302020-02-13T19:32:44 <jonasschnelli> Just expect that Apple changes the key types (and enforces them) probably with 1 week notice.. :)
5312020-02-13T19:32:54 <cfields_> Heh, fair point.
5322020-02-13T19:33:17 <jonasschnelli> I guess its still RSA right now... but I'm sure they have plans to migrate away from that
5332020-02-13T19:33:28 <achow101> cfields_: hasn't that been on the todo list for the past 6 or so years?
5342020-02-13T19:33:41 <jonasschnelli> heh.. maybe past 4
5352020-02-13T19:34:00 <cfields_> achow101: heh, yep, every time codesigning comes up. But this time I might actually be able to sucker someone into doing it :)
5362020-02-13T19:34:22 <wumpus> it's a pretty old idea by now, yes, the problem is backfitting something like that into proprietary codesigning systems
5372020-02-13T19:34:57 <jonasschnelli> And at the end, it's little security/trust compared to our gitian signatures
5382020-02-13T19:35:18 <wumpus> right, it's not as if it's going to replace gitian signature verification
5392020-02-13T19:35:20 <cfields_> Ok, not much interest.
5402020-02-13T19:35:23 <jonasschnelli> I would rather invest resources in having a release-checker within bitcoin-cores binary (+Qt)
5412020-02-13T19:35:26 <cfields_> Thanks, that's a helpful answer too.
5422020-02-13T19:36:16 <jonasschnelli> Gitian is such a nice process.... but I doubt many people verify (which makes it kinda pointless).
5432020-02-13T19:36:34 <jonasschnelli> If they could just verify from directly withing older bitcoin core versions.
5442020-02-13T19:36:36 <wumpus> well at least the people that build verify that's something...
5452020-02-13T19:36:51 <jonasschnelli> yes. that alone is a big plus.
5462020-02-13T19:37:13 <cfields_> Yeah, I see it more as a proof that it can be done.
5472020-02-13T19:37:18 <cfields_> Anyway, </topic>. Thanks.
5482020-02-13T19:37:28 <wumpus> but yes it might be nice to have a tool that automates verification integrated, so that if people have one version of bitcoin core they can verify a newer one they downloaded
5492020-02-13T19:37:34 <jonasschnelli> not that its not a cool project.
5502020-02-13T19:38:03 <jonasschnelli> wumpus: Yes. Agree. We could have secp256k1 signatures from the gitian assert files... then verify those within core
5512020-02-13T19:38:25 <wumpus> yup
5522020-02-13T19:38:45 <wumpus> any other topics?
5532020-02-13T19:39:42 <wumpus> #endmeeting
5542020-02-13T19:39:42 <lightningbot> Meeting ended Thu Feb 13 19:39:42 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
5552020-02-13T19:39:42 <lightningbot> Minutes: http://www.erisian.com.au/meetbot/bitcoin-core-dev/2020/bitcoin-core-dev.2020-02-13-19.00.html
5562020-02-13T19:39:42 <lightningbot> Minutes (text): http://www.erisian.com.au/meetbot/bitcoin-core-dev/2020/bitcoin-core-dev.2020-02-13-19.00.txt
5572020-02-13T19:39:42 <lightningbot> Log: http://www.erisian.com.au/meetbot/bitcoin-core-dev/2020/bitcoin-core-dev.2020-02-13-19.00.log.html
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5612020-02-13T19:42:05 <sipa> oops
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5632020-02-13T19:43:32 <cfields_> @sipa Well you were 18min early, at least :)
5642020-02-13T19:46:06 <sipa> more like 10062 minutes early
5652020-02-13T19:47:02 <wumpus> that's a lot of minutes
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5752020-02-13T20:21:21 <provoostenator> Just did a brain dump about how to (mabey) coordinate a multisig wallet setup: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/18142
5762020-02-13T20:22:42 <jeremyrubin> sdaftuar: here?
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6132020-02-13T22:56:18 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] bitzec opened pull request #18143: Update chainparams.cpp (master...patch-1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18143
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6162020-02-13T22:56:48 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake closed pull request #18143: Update chainparams.cpp (master...patch-1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18143
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6202020-02-13T23:20:08 <gwillen> provoostenator: thanks for putting 17509 up for hi-pri, I am on a train and had no cell signal during the meeting
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