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222020-10-16T01:35:39 <aj> sipa: hmm, wouldn't it be better to have AreInputsStandard() return false for taproot spends prior to taproot actually activating? could pass down currentBlockScriptVerifyFlags to do that, I think?
232020-10-16T01:39:49 <sipa> aj: there is no script validation flag that will reject a valid taproot spend
242020-10-16T01:40:12 <sipa> one could be added, but that's a bit invasive... i'd rather do it through policy/policy.cpp alone
252020-10-16T01:41:06 <sipa> aj: and yes, i suggest that (a) before activation is defined: creation is allowed, spending is not (b) while defined but unactivated: neither is allowed (c) when active, both are allowed
262020-10-16T01:41:38 <sipa> an alternative - if we don't care about the theft protection - is making (b) identical to (a)
272020-10-16T01:42:13 <aj> sipa: oh... maybe it was too early in the morning when i read what you were saying then, that sounds great
282020-10-16T01:42:53 <sipa> and looking at implementation... (a) can easily be extended to "any situation in which it will never activate", including when it has failed
292020-10-16T01:44:11 <sipa> one downside to have (a) and (b) have different behavior is that it introduces a trivial relay policy difference between nodes-with-activation and nodes-without-activation
302020-10-16T01:44:35 <sipa> so if that's a concern, it should just be: whenever not active: creating allowed, spending not
312020-10-16T01:45:19 <aj> there'll be a relay policy difference between (a) and (c) and (b)/(c) are the same nodes, so that seems fine?
322020-10-16T01:45:48 <sipa> right, but we can expect that by the time activation happens, many nodes will have activation included
332020-10-16T01:46:04 <sipa> so it's a synchronized event rather than dependent on upgrade time
342020-10-16T01:48:25 <fanquake> Is anyone else seeing a number of the functional tests fail? https://gist.github.com/fanquake/f3df509a6f810a104b97a38753ef7a5a
352020-10-16T01:48:38 <fanquake> Wondering if I've got some local issue
362020-10-16T01:48:58 <aj> maybe make (b) while defined and in LOCKED_IN neither is allowed, would make it mostly safe and synchronised?
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382020-10-16T01:50:30 <sipa> hmm, just have the theft protection while locked in and not yet activated?
392020-10-16T01:50:59 <aj> sipa: yeah. so people spending to taproot a little early are protected
402020-10-16T01:51:12 <aj> a little protected anyway
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472020-10-16T03:26:32 <fanquake> Seems there is at least some unwanted interaction between #20080 and the functional tests. Unclear why Travis / tests don't seem to be failing for anyone else: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20080#issuecomment-709708344
482020-10-16T03:26:34 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/20080 | Strip any trailing `/` in -datadir path by hebasto · Pull Request #20080 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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502020-10-16T03:34:03 <kallewoof> promag_: I made https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13746 a few years ago. Closed it due to lack of interest, though, but it seems similar to what you're saying.
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522020-10-16T03:36:06 <sipa> #13746
532020-10-16T03:36:09 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/13746 | -masterdatadir for datadir bootstrapping by kallewoof · Pull Request #13746 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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562020-10-16T03:38:46 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] riyasingh0799 opened pull request #20164: [test] undo truncation of digits in btc amount (master...rpc-testmempoolaccept-fee) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20164
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612020-10-16T04:06:10 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/9ad7cd2887ab...cbb5f3a2d584
622020-10-16T04:06:10 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master cccc752 MarcoFalke: rpc: Properly deserialize txs with witness before signing
632020-10-16T04:06:11 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 3333077 MarcoFalke: rpc: Adjust witness-tx deserialize error message
642020-10-16T04:06:11 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master cbb5f3a fanquake: Merge #19836: rpc: Properly deserialize txs with witness before signing
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672020-10-16T04:06:40 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #19836: rpc: Properly deserialize txs with witness before signing (master...2008-rpcDeserTxsWitness) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/19836
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702020-10-16T04:23:42 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] sipa opened pull request #20165: Only relay Taproot spends if next block has it active (master...202010_taproot_policy) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20165
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742020-10-16T04:29:13 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #20166: [0.20] Backports (0.20...more_020_backports) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20166
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782020-10-16T04:38:39 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #20091: doc: reflect the current status of Tor support. (master...pr-351-doc) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20091
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822020-10-16T04:45:56 <luke-jr> sipa: hmm, I wonder if, ideally, we would wait 100 blocks after activation to relay them
832020-10-16T04:46:16 <luke-jr> similar to coinbase spends
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852020-10-16T04:51:11 <sipa> luke-jr: what would that protect against?
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872020-10-16T04:51:12 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #19635: param: add bool parameter -ephemeraltoronion to generate ephemeral tor addreses (master...ephemeral-tor-onion) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/19635
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892020-10-16T04:52:06 <luke-jr> sipa: reorgs invalidating them with a miner theft
902020-10-16T04:52:18 <luke-jr> sipa: downstream of the actual taproot spend
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922020-10-16T04:52:43 <luke-jr> ie, a taproot spend is similar to a coinbase in that it can be claimed by any miner before the activation block
932020-10-16T04:53:02 <aj> luke-jr: provided the pay-to-taproot tx has block height locktime, that's fine though
942020-10-16T04:53:12 <sipa> luke-jr: that argument would apply to creation of outputs, not spending them
952020-10-16T04:54:02 <luke-jr> aj: oh, that's true
962020-10-16T04:54:29 <luke-jr> hmm, might have been interesting to have a consensus rule that taproot spends need a locktime after the activation height/time; probably also not worth the additional effort tho
972020-10-16T04:54:57 <luke-jr> actually, that doesn't work
982020-10-16T04:55:07 <luke-jr> because that rule wouldn't exist before activation either
992020-10-16T04:55:30 <sipa> right
1002020-10-16T04:55:43 <luke-jr> hmm⦠maybe it would anyway? since it'd be an invalid taproot spend normally
1012020-10-16T04:56:14 <luke-jr> oh well, could just as well be a "wallets should do this" best practice
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1032020-10-16T04:57:28 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #19419: wallet: let Listwalletdir do not iterate through our blocksdata. (master...wallet_351) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/19419
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1172020-10-16T06:28:14 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake closed pull request #20164: [test] undo truncation of digits in btc amount (master...rpc-testmempoolaccept-fee) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20164
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1262020-10-16T07:02:22 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/cbb5f3a2d584...82d3596dfe4e
1272020-10-16T07:02:22 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 5669642 Pieter Wuille: docs: mention BIPs 340-342 in doc/bips.md
1282020-10-16T07:02:23 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 1d22300 Pieter Wuille: Address functional test nits
1292020-10-16T07:02:23 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 82d3596 fanquake: Merge #20161: Minor Taproot follow-ups
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1322020-10-16T07:02:41 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #20161: Minor Taproot follow-ups (master...202010_taproot_followup) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20161
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1412020-10-16T07:44:02 <hebasto> fanquake: is /private dir a travis artefact?
1422020-10-16T07:44:31 <fanquake> hebasto: no that is on my macOS machine
1432020-10-16T07:45:07 <hebasto> ok, going to reproduce on macOS
1442020-10-16T07:47:19 <hebasto> fanquake: looks like kind of sandboxing
1452020-10-16T07:48:17 <fanquake> hebasto: possibly, however I haven't looked further yet. Just noticed that the issue started occurring with the introduction of fs::canonical
1462020-10-16T07:50:30 <hebasto> fanquake: https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/1043/why-is-tmp-a-symlink-to-private-tmp
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1482020-10-16T07:54:59 <fanquake> hebasto: I see
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1722020-10-16T09:12:42 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa64892 MarcoFalke: signet: Fix uninitialized read in validation
1732020-10-16T09:12:42 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa729cd MarcoFalke: doc: Move assumed-values doxygen comments to header
1742020-10-16T09:12:43 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa723e3 MarcoFalke: Initialize default-initialized uint256 consensus params to zero explicitly
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1772020-10-16T09:13:01 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #20035: signet: Fix uninitialized read in validation (master...2009-signetUninitRead) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20035
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1792020-10-16T09:19:28 <hebasto> fanquake: thanks for pointing out
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1862020-10-16T09:34:18 <provoostenator> When taproot (signet) wallet and descriptor support? :-)
1872020-10-16T09:36:01 <kallewoof> Ohh.. I forgot about the fact we don't actually have wallet support. But people can still play with btcdeb I guess.
1882020-10-16T09:43:34 <provoostenator> You can make raw transactions and send them with your own node.
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1922020-10-16T09:45:15 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 1df2cd1 Luke Dashjr: QA: blocktools: Accept block template to create_block
1932020-10-16T09:45:16 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master d438d60 Luke Dashjr: QA: Use GBT to get block versions correct
1942020-10-16T09:45:16 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master cb21d86 MarcoFalke: Merge #19401: QA: Use GBT to get block versions correct
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1972020-10-16T09:46:04 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #19401: QA: Use GBT to get block versions correct (master...qa_blockvers) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/19401
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2052020-10-16T10:23:47 <kallewoof> provoostenator: that too yeah
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2122020-10-16T10:47:33 <hebasto> please consider GUI repo pulls for 0.21.0 -- https://github.com/users/hebasto/projects/5
2132020-10-16T10:48:14 <hebasto> wumpus: MarcoFalke: promag: provoostenator: luke-jr: ^
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2152020-10-16T10:52:48 <hebasto> jonasschnelli: ^^
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2252020-10-16T11:32:02 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #20167: test: Add test for -blockversion (master...2010-testBlockversion) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20167
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2282020-10-16T11:51:51 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #20168: contrib: Fix gen_key_io_test_vectors.py imports (master...2010-contribTestGen) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20168
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2352020-10-16T12:11:29 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/cb21d864c52b...9e8d2bd076d7
2362020-10-16T12:11:29 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 0d9d2a1 Jonas Schnelli: Only update the updateSmartFeeLabel once in sync
2372020-10-16T12:11:30 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 9e8d2bd MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin-core/gui#97: Relax GUI freezes during IBD (when using wallet...
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2482020-10-16T12:54:26 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] practicalswift opened pull request #20169: Taproot follow-up: Make ComputeEntrySchnorr and ComputeEntryECDSA const to clarify contract (master...const-ComputeEntrySchnorr) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20169
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2852020-10-16T15:54:45 <jamesob> I don't seem to be able to kick jobs on Travis anymore; can someone rerun https://travis-ci.org/github/bitcoin/bitcoin/jobs/736379874 for me?
2862020-10-16T15:55:13 <hebasto> jamesob: done
2872020-10-16T15:55:22 <jamesob> hebasto: thanks!
2882020-10-16T15:55:31 <hebasto> try to log off/on
2892020-10-16T15:56:56 <jamesob> ah yep, that did it. thanks again hebasto
2902020-10-16T15:57:16 <hebasto> yw
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3042020-10-16T16:48:03 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ariard opened pull request #20171: Add functional test test_txid_inv_delay (master...2020-10-txid-delay-test) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20171
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3362020-10-16T20:56:20 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto opened pull request #20172: rpc, net: Expose connections_onion_only in getnetworkinfo RPC output (master...201016-tor) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20172
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