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5102021-01-15T01:52:14 <sipa> fjahr, elichai2: down to 54 us
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5202021-01-15T02:29:07 <Arvidt> Congrats for Release! Where can one see how many Onion Nodes are there? bitnodes leaderboard does only show _26_ ?
5212021-01-15T02:31:41 <sipa> Arvidt: there is no authorative source
5222021-01-15T02:32:12 <Arvidt> Yes I know
5232021-01-15T02:32:46 <sipa> so i'm afraid the only correct answer is "nobody knows" - various sites may try to index them, but that's always going to be approximate
5242021-01-15T02:35:15 <Arvidt> Bitnodes knows 9 thousand nodes, strange it knows only 26 onion nodes
5252021-01-15T02:37:22 <sipa> my crawler knows a few 1000
5262021-01-15T02:46:53 <luke-jr> quite possible for onions to not be listening either, in which case glwt :P
5272021-01-15T02:47:27 <luke-jr> sipa: only torV2 tho, right?
5282021-01-15T02:47:45 <sipa> luke-jr: yes
5292021-01-15T02:47:56 <luke-jr> my crawler has only been doing tor for like a month and it sees 4012 :o
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5322021-01-15T03:01:32 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #20938: Fix linking against -latomic when building for riscv (master...fix_riscv_atomic_usage) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20938
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5352021-01-15T03:12:18 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #20939: build: fix RELOC_SECTION security check for bitcoin-util (master...fix_bitcoin_util_reloc_section) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20939
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5372021-01-15T03:14:13 <aj> fanquake: nice
5382021-01-15T03:15:06 <fanquake> aj: now that's solved I guess I'm free to go watch the cricket
5392021-01-15T03:15:28 <sipa> the sport or the insect?
5402021-01-15T03:16:14 <luke-jr> insect sounds more interesting
5412021-01-15T03:16:55 <sipa> agree.
5422021-01-15T03:17:43 <fanquake> ð¢ This game will only go for the next 5 days
5432021-01-15T03:18:08 <sipa> crickets live that long?
5442021-01-15T03:18:52 <fanquake> I'll try find one and let you know
5452021-01-15T03:19:12 <sipa> haha
5462021-01-15T03:20:42 <luke-jr> XD
5472021-01-15T03:21:37 * luke-jr remembers the time a Japanese bitcoiner visited him and we went shooting guns out back for the lulz
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5652021-01-15T05:46:23 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jarolrod opened pull request #20941: rpc: document RPC_TRANSACTION_ALREADY_IN_CHAIN exception (master...rpcman-sendrawtx) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20941
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5852021-01-15T08:04:37 <Arvidt> sipa luke-jr: Thanks, do I understand right that your crawlers do not tell the count of seen listening onion nodes?
5862021-01-15T08:11:52 <sipa> Arvidt: not sure what you mean
5872021-01-15T08:13:21 <sipa> Arvidt: a dump of my crawler is on http://bitcoin.sipa.be/seeds.txt.gz
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6032021-01-15T08:34:35 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ajtowns opened pull request #20942: [refactor] Move some net_processing globals into PeerManagerImpl (master...202101-netproc-anti-globalisation-pt1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20942
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6122021-01-15T09:08:44 <jonatack> seeing my first 0.21.0 (ipv4) peer
6132021-01-15T09:20:29 <elichai2> sipa: sweet :)
6142021-01-15T09:22:14 <elichai2> (I'm writing a go implementation for muhash, but I'll try to use their big.Int from the standard library for the modular inversion, see how fast is that before i try safegcd or other algs)
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6182021-01-15T10:01:04 <provoostenator> wumpus: v0.21.0 release torrent whitelist done
6192021-01-15T10:28:08 <wumpus> provoostenator: thank you!
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6542021-01-15T13:39:13 <wumpus> i've added glozow to the "frequent contributors" for the github orgs
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6642021-01-15T14:52:37 <nkuttler> btw, 0.21 still wasn't posted on bitcoincore.org, should i create a ticket?
6652021-01-15T14:58:26 <provoostenator> If someone has a chance to merge https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gui/pull/171 then I can have some rebase fun on hardware wallet UI stuff...
6662021-01-15T14:59:15 <provoostenator> nkuttler: there is a PR: https://github.com/bitcoin-core/bitcoincore.org/pull/734
6672021-01-15T15:00:12 <nkuttler> provoostenator: ah, thanks!
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7042021-01-15T17:20:06 <wumpus> nkuttler: thanks for the reminder it should be ready for merge now
7052021-01-15T17:21:12 <talisein> In a 0.21 descriptor wallet, if i RPC importdescriptors with active=false, is there any way to modify that flag via another RPC?
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7072021-01-15T17:25:15 <wumpus> i have no idea what's going on with the bitcoin.org PR, https://github.com/bitcoin-dot-org/Bitcoin.org/pull/3560, but i guess cobra prefers not to do that anymore anyway
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7092021-01-15T17:26:09 <sipa> CI failure?
7102021-01-15T17:26:16 <wumpus> yes
7112021-01-15T17:27:24 <wumpus> it's always the same, the problem isn't the CI failure but that the output is completely useless for fixing what the problem is, and to be honest i'm kind of tired of updating two sites in the first place
7122021-01-15T17:30:13 <wumpus> anyhow, easiest would be to delete the changelog and make it a link to bitcoincore.org's, once that is merged of course
7132021-01-15T17:30:24 <sipa> yeah
7142021-01-15T17:34:51 <MarcoFalke> * 1651:88: ERROR: Tag datadir invalid
7152021-01-15T17:35:04 <MarcoFalke> Maybe grep for "<datadir>"?
7162021-01-15T17:35:31 <MarcoFalke> - #15935 Add <datadir>/settings.json persistent settings storage
7172021-01-15T17:35:35 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/15935 | Add /settings.json persistent settings storage by ryanofsky · Pull Request #15935 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
7182021-01-15T17:35:50 <MarcoFalke> heh, gribble can't handle it either
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7212021-01-15T17:55:35 <wumpus> MarcoFalke: thanks, yeah that could be it... the annoying thing is that the line numbers are from a generated html file (the only way to produce it locally is to install exactly the same set of ruby scripts and dependencies)
7222021-01-15T17:56:51 <wumpus> also it only gives one error at a time and the CI runs for almost an hour
7232021-01-15T17:57:12 <wumpus> (which is absurd for checking a website, but there you go)
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7262021-01-15T18:02:53 <MarcoFalke> yeah, travis :(
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7312021-01-15T18:31:43 <wumpus> bitcoin-core-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org is now finally, officially, an announcement-only list
7322021-01-15T18:31:55 <sipa> yay
7332021-01-15T18:49:01 <wumpus> nkuttler: 0.21.0 release post is up
7342021-01-15T18:53:52 <nkuttler> yay \o/
7352021-01-15T18:54:59 <achow101> talisein: currently no. #19651 implements that
7362021-01-15T18:55:04 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/19651 | wallet: importdescriptors update existing by S3RK · Pull Request #19651 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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7392021-01-15T18:58:45 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/f91587f050d9...0a1cf6c34734
7402021-01-15T18:58:46 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa0a864 MarcoFalke: fuzz: Use mocktime in process_message* fuzz targets
7412021-01-15T18:58:46 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 0a1cf6c MarcoFalke: Merge #20908: fuzz: Use mocktime in process_message* fuzz targets
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7442021-01-15T18:59:05 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #20908: fuzz: Use mocktime in process_message* fuzz targets (master...2101-fuzzMocktime) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20908
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7462021-01-15T19:00:14 <achow101> wallet meeting?
7472021-01-15T19:00:46 <achow101> #startmeeting
7482021-01-15T19:00:47 <core-meetingbot> Meeting started Fri Jan 15 19:00:46 2021 UTC. The chair is achow101. Information about MeetBot at https://bitcoin.jonasschnelli.ch/ircmeetings.
7492021-01-15T19:00:47 <core-meetingbot> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
7502021-01-15T19:00:53 <achow101> #bitcoin-core-dev Wallet Meeting: achow101 aj amiti ariard bluematt cfields Chris_Stewart_5 digi_james dongcarl elichai2 emilengler fanquake fjahr gleb gmaxwell gwillen hebasto instagibbs jamesob jb55 jeremyrubin jl2012 jnewbery jonasschnelli jonatack jtimon kallewoof kanzure kvaciral lightlike luke-jr maaku marcofalke meshcollider michagogo moneyball morcos nehan NicolasDorier paveljanik petertodd phantomcircuit promag provoostenator
7512021-01-15T19:00:53 <achow101> ryanofsky sdaftuar sipa vasild wumpus
7522021-01-15T19:01:00 <jonatack> hi
7532021-01-15T19:01:06 <emzy> hi
7542021-01-15T19:01:12 <achow101> any topics?
7552021-01-15T19:02:21 <achow101> With 0.21 out now, are there any big things we want to get in for 22.0?
7562021-01-15T19:03:03 <jonatack> i'd like to finish up the migration from btc/kb to sat/b feerates
7572021-01-15T19:03:12 <jonatack> and refactor CFeeRate
7582021-01-15T19:03:19 <jonatack> the plan is to
7592021-01-15T19:03:20 <luke-jr> achow101: I was thinking the other day, that it'd be nice to get wallet backup reminders
7602021-01-15T19:04:08 <jonatack> add setfeerate and estimatefeerate RPCs in sat/b and then we can deprecate the feeRate btc/kb params
7612021-01-15T19:04:14 <achow101> jonatack: that's mostly within the rpcs, right?
7622021-01-15T19:04:30 <luke-jr> also, according to puchu in #bitcoin, the GUI has gotten less responsive in 0.21; not sure if wallet-related or not
7632021-01-15T19:04:35 <jonatack> achow101: also a bit of CFeeRate refactoring in #20546
7642021-01-15T19:04:37 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/20546 | policy, wallet, refactor: check for non-representable CFeeRates by jonatack · Pull Request #20546 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
7652021-01-15T19:04:58 <jonatack> and a new AmountFromValue-like method that understands feerates
7662021-01-15T19:05:11 <achow101> cool
7672021-01-15T19:05:27 <achow101> luke-jr: wallet backup reminders in what way?
7682021-01-15T19:05:29 <jonatack> then we could start migrating the config options if people want
7692021-01-15T19:06:31 <achow101> jonatack: having all feerate things be the same units would be ideal
7702021-01-15T19:06:43 <jonatack> achow101: yes!
7712021-01-15T19:06:54 <jonatack> achow101: remind me of the xpub export plans plz
7722021-01-15T19:07:00 <jonatack> istm there was a PR to review
7732021-01-15T19:07:23 <jonatack> i'd also like to see fjahr's coinstats work get in and your coinselection work
7742021-01-15T19:07:29 <luke-jr> achow101: seems users forget to backup their wallet
7752021-01-15T19:07:38 <achow101> jonatack: #20226 I think was the pr
7762021-01-15T19:07:40 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/20226 | wallet, rpc: add listdescriptors command by S3RK · Pull Request #20226 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
7772021-01-15T19:08:00 <luke-jr> achow101: even just a one-time reminder after creation might help, but something to keep track of backup outdatedness and warn the user regularly would also be nice
7782021-01-15T19:09:05 <achow101> luke-jr: outdatedness may be hard to determine
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7802021-01-15T19:09:22 <luke-jr> could just increment a counter per change, and reset to 0 on backup?
7812021-01-15T19:09:53 <jonatack> luke-jr: that does seem a good idea, if workable
7822021-01-15T19:10:07 <jonatack> (the concept)
7832021-01-15T19:10:15 <achow101> I think a lot of people backup by copying the wallet.dat file rather than using the explicit backup wallet stuff
7842021-01-15T19:10:23 <achow101> which in that case we wouldn't know when a backup was made
7852021-01-15T19:10:26 <luke-jr> that can lead to corruption
7862021-01-15T19:10:29 <luke-jr> bad idea regardless
7872021-01-15T19:10:35 <luke-jr> they need the reminder too :P
7882021-01-15T19:10:48 <achow101> an idea being bad hasn't stopped people from doing it :/
7892021-01-15T19:11:07 <achow101> but reminders would be nice. I guess it would also help to push people to do it the right way
7902021-01-15T19:11:14 <luke-jr> but at least this way they would investigate why they got a notice ;)
7912021-01-15T19:11:18 <luke-jr> and fix their backups
7922021-01-15T19:11:21 <sipa> the application explicitly telling you "You should make a backup, click here to do so!" likely encourages them to do it the right way
7932021-01-15T19:11:31 <luke-jr> yes
7942021-01-15T19:11:49 <jonatack> +1
7952021-01-15T19:12:09 <achow101> luke-jr: can you open a brainstorming issue for this?
7962021-01-15T19:14:15 <achow101> in terms of other stuff for 22.0, I'd like the coin selection changes to go in
7972021-01-15T19:14:38 <luke-jr> https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gui/issues/185
7982021-01-15T19:15:13 <achow101> i have a stack of branches and prs that do a ton of coin selection improvements
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8002021-01-15T19:15:43 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/0a1cf6c34734...32e59fc37108
8012021-01-15T19:15:44 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa0aa87 MarcoFalke: rpc: Return wtxid from testmempoolaccept
8022021-01-15T19:15:44 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 32e59fc MarcoFalke: Merge #20916: rpc: Return wtxid from testmempoolaccept
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8052021-01-15T19:16:03 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #20916: rpc: Return wtxid from testmempoolaccept (master...2101-wtxidTestmempool) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20916
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8072021-01-15T19:16:51 <jonatack> achow101: it would be good to move those forward. FWIW is meshcollider still on honeymoon?
8082021-01-15T19:17:30 <achow101> meshcollider told me he was back at the start of december
8092021-01-15T19:17:37 <achow101> but I think he dropped off the face of the earth
8102021-01-15T19:17:41 <luke-jr> x.x
8112021-01-15T19:18:06 <achow101> maybe NZ's border closing also affected the internet
8122021-01-15T19:19:08 <achow101> anything else to discuss?
8132021-01-15T19:20:24 <jonatack> pls ack #20391 i think it's rtm
8142021-01-15T19:20:27 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/20391 | wallet: introduce setfeerate (an improved settxfee, in sat/vB) by jonatack · Pull Request #20391 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
8152021-01-15T19:21:03 <achow101> will look
8162021-01-15T19:21:25 <achow101> #endmeeting
8172021-01-15T19:21:26 <core-meetingbot> topic: Bitcoin Core development discussion and commit log | Feel free to watch, but please take commentary and usage questions to #bitcoin | Channel logs: http://www.erisian.com.au/bitcoin-core-dev/, http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/ | Meeting topics http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/proposedmeetingtopics.txt / http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/proposedwalletmeetingtopics.txt
8182021-01-15T19:21:26 <core-meetingbot> Meeting ended Fri Jan 15 19:21:25 2021 UTC.
8192021-01-15T19:21:26 <core-meetingbot> Minutes: https://bitcoin.jonasschnelli.ch/ircmeetings/logs/bitcoin-core-dev/2021/bitcoin-core-dev.2021-01-15-19.00.moin.txt
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8282021-01-15T19:57:29 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #20944: rpc: Return total fee in mempool (master...2101-rpcMempoolTotalFee) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20944
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