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142021-01-30T00:45:54 <luke-jr> dongcarl: I started from nothing when I installed Gentoo on my new PC
152021-01-30T01:18:03 <roconnor> luke-jr: like editting your boot sector with your BIOS?
162021-01-30T01:20:21 <roconnor> I mean, presumably you started with some sort of bootable ISO image?
172021-01-30T01:26:41 <luke-jr> roconnor: what BIOS?
182021-01-30T01:27:06 <luke-jr> I cross-compiled a bootable USB stick from my old PC
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252021-01-30T01:56:02 <roconnor> okay. That's fair.
262021-01-30T01:56:44 <roconnor> I'd rephrase that as I started from an older PC when I installed Gentoo ...
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282021-01-30T02:29:41 <luke-jr> roconnor: that's kind of already implied by inspecting any bootstrap with a hex editor even, not to mention the kernel hosting it etc
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382021-01-30T04:03:18 <roconnor> Oh course.
392021-01-30T04:03:49 <roconnor> The difference is that stage0 is reproducable, but no one can get reproduce what you did.
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412021-01-30T04:07:38 <luke-jr> well, they couldâ¦
422021-01-30T04:08:44 <roconnor> but they won't get the same .iso
432021-01-30T04:09:01 <luke-jr> point is everyone should bootstrap for themselves
442021-01-30T04:09:10 <luke-jr> or at the very least, not be cut off from doing so
452021-01-30T04:10:17 <roconnor> Indeed I agree. There is nothing fundamental about Guix's binary starting blob. I'm moderately confident we could rebuild it on Gentoo or whatever.
462021-01-30T04:10:50 <roconnor> I guess I should put in some effort at some point in time.
472021-01-30T04:12:32 <roconnor> The build process should be described by their archine DSL. Ironcially if it were written in Nix, I would probably be able to read it.
482021-01-30T04:13:25 <roconnor> e.g. https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/pkgs/stdenv/linux/make-bootstrap-tools.nix#L58-L197
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652021-01-30T08:12:14 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #21036: gitian: Bump descriptors to Focal for 22.0 (master...gitian_bump_22_0) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21036
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692021-01-30T08:27:59 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] practicalswift opened pull request #21037: fuzz: Avoid designated initialization (C++20) in fuzz tests (master...c++20-false-start) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21037
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1032021-01-30T12:53:57 <michaelfolkson> For those interested in fuzzing research, this Telegram group seems to share some great content. It is run by a commercial group (Fuzzing Labs) so the occasional promotion etc but generally high quality https://t.me/fuzzinglabs
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1062021-01-30T14:14:26 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] FndNur1Labs opened pull request #21038: Merge pull request #1 from bitcoin/master (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21038
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1102021-01-30T15:01:33 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #21038: Merge pull request #1 from bitcoin/master (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21038
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1612021-01-30T18:26:46 <bitcoin-git> [gui] jonatack opened pull request #203: gui: display plain "Inbound" in peer details, add #162/#163 release notes (master...display-plain-inbound-and-add-release-notes) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gui/pull/203
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1642021-01-30T18:27:46 <bitcoin-git> [gui] jonatack closed pull request #201: gui: ensure inbound block relay peers have relevant services (master...inbound-block-relay) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gui/pull/201
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1802021-01-30T19:56:31 <jonatack> psa: github cli became a bit more usable with v1.5.0, adds ability to comment on issues and PRs, and displays top level review comments inline with regular comments (without any "158 hidden comments")
1812021-01-30T19:56:33 <jonatack> https://github.com/cli/cli/releases/tag/v1.5.0
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1832021-01-30T20:03:29 <bitcoin-git> [gui] jonatack reopened pull request #201: gui: ensure inbound block relay peers have relevant services (master...inbound-block-relay) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gui/pull/201
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1872021-01-30T20:12:06 <dr_orlovsky> Sorry if I missed something but do we already have taproot descriptor?
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1892021-01-30T20:13:01 <sipa> no
1902021-01-30T20:13:21 <sipa> probably time to start looking into that
1912021-01-30T20:14:13 <dr_orlovsky> and the address format will be called `P2TR` or there is no definite decision yet?
1922021-01-30T20:14:46 <sipa> i've been calling it P2TR
1932021-01-30T20:15:09 <sipa> you can call it what you want, there is nothing official :)
1942021-01-30T20:15:44 <dr_orlovsky> I assume before there is BIP-350 there is no address format implementation yet (since we need bech32m first). Right?
1952021-01-30T20:17:35 <sipa> well bitcoin core (and several other software) accepts bech32 v1+ addresses for sending
1962021-01-30T20:17:55 <sipa> but hooefully nobody will start ceeating bech32 (instead of bech32m) receive addresses for taproot
1972021-01-30T20:21:10 <luke-jr> our 'uk' translations appear to be reverted to English in 0.21 fwiw :/
1982021-01-30T20:23:32 <sipa> someone thought it meant the united kingdom instead of ukrainian?
1992021-01-30T20:23:38 <luke-jr> (would prefer someone who knows something about the 'uk' language to confirm :P)
2002021-01-30T20:23:40 <luke-jr> maybe
2012021-01-30T20:23:47 <luke-jr> since we did just recently delete en_UK
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2032021-01-30T20:25:26 <dr_orlovsky> luke-jr: I am Ukrainian :) Where to look?
2042021-01-30T20:26:30 <luke-jr> dr_orlovsky: https://www.transifex.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/
2052021-01-30T20:26:31 * hebasto luke-jr: indeed, done in 93ce429f0e6ab6e09051fd947c898ecbbf907cd8
2062021-01-30T20:26:39 <luke-jr> I think you have to login/make acccount to actually go into the strings
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2082021-01-30T20:30:57 <dr_orlovsky> luke-jr: Ok, I'm in. This is clearly not Ukranian but English. Ukrainian uses cyrilic alphabet and Russian is similar to it, so it is easy to see
2092021-01-30T20:31:25 <luke-jr> that's what I thought
2102021-01-30T20:31:40 <luke-jr> I wonder if I should just grab an older release and push it over the current one
2112021-01-30T20:32:50 <dr_orlovsky> 0.20.x and 0.19.x also had english strings
2122021-01-30T20:33:04 <dr_orlovsky> and I do not see other versions being translated, so literally nowhere to pull from
2132021-01-30T20:33:33 <luke-jr> I do have at least some real uk strings in Knots somehow XD
2142021-01-30T20:34:05 <dr_orlovsky> this is however correct ukrainian: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/488b77f72e8fcca63db0dd46780c3940b101ec25/src/qt/locale/bitcoin_uk.ts
2152021-01-30T20:34:07 <luke-jr> dr_orlovsky: if it's not too much to ask, maybe it's best to just retranslate it? ;)
2162021-01-30T20:34:18 <luke-jr> or copy paste from there where applicable
2172021-01-30T20:34:51 <dr_orlovsky> The file in bitcoin repo is a correct translation. What is the master source: transifex or the repo?
2182021-01-30T20:35:18 <luke-jr> transifex
2192021-01-30T20:35:35 <luke-jr> dr_orlovsky: probably best if you deal with this, since you actually know what you're looking at âº
2202021-01-30T20:35:55 <dr_orlovsky> so the task is to copy strings from bitcoin repo into transifex?
2212021-01-30T20:36:57 <luke-jr> dr_orlovsky: if appropriate; if they're crappy translations, feel free to make a new one
2222021-01-30T20:37:16 <dr_orlovsky> ok, git it. Will gradually work: a plenty of strings there...
2232021-01-30T20:37:28 <dr_orlovsky> *git -> got :)
2242021-01-30T20:38:11 <luke-jr> I'm sure there's missing translations too
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2312021-01-30T20:58:11 <luke-jr> 'zu' affected too possibly
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