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 222022-11-11T01:21:14  <luke-jr> sipa: if they were competent, they would be successful double spending …
 232022-11-11T01:21:26  <luke-jr> but again, if you have a better way to say it, feel free
 242022-11-11T01:21:58  <luke-jr> and no, "zeroconf" is a term used mainly for propaganda, not an accepted term
 252022-11-11T01:22:57  <luke-jr> PaperSword: the software cannot handle a height outside of int32 range right now at all IIRC
 262022-11-11T01:23:18  <luke-jr> PaperSword: which is fine, it won't matter until like AD 40800 or so
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 332022-11-11T01:46:24  <PaperSword> Thanks @luke-jr, Yeah that's just fine as it could be updated as a softfork pretty sure! Just wanted to double check on that my getblock(height) implementation fully utilized the max range of possible inputs.
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 362022-11-11T02:10:15  <luke-jr> PaperSword: it can't be
 372022-11-11T02:11:11  <sipa> luke-jr: I'm not disagreeing about the incompetent part; I just don't think it's the kind of language we ought to use in release notes
 382022-11-11T02:12:34  <sipa> re timestamp range; it's in theory fixable with a softfork a la forward blocks - but that brings huge downsides too
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 412022-11-11T02:24:45  <ariard> ack harding's release notes about the possible effects of the `mempoolfullrbf`; left few improvement comment on the gist
 422022-11-11T02:25:31  <ariard> luke-jr: it's one thing to question users level of knowledge -- another to warn about the potential harmful effects of their application practices in light of transaction-relay changes
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 482022-11-11T03:59:39  <luke-jr> ariard: there are no potential harmful effects though
 492022-11-11T04:00:03  <luke-jr> the "zeroconf" nonsense is FUD
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 532022-11-11T04:26:09  <luke-jr> https://bugs.xdavidhu.me/google/2022/11/10/accidental-70k-google-pixel-lock-screen-bypass/
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 552022-11-11T04:33:29  <PaperSword> @luke-jr sorry, I see what would happen.
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1072022-11-11T11:02:10  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #26489: test: Split overly large util_tests.cpp file (master...2211-test-split-🌐) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26489
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1212022-11-11T11:40:20  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke reopened pull request #23352:  test: Extend stale_tip_peer_management test  (master...2110-testDos) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23352
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1342022-11-11T12:23:23  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke reopened pull request #19078: test: Extend salvage test for wallet tool (master...2005-testWalletToolSalvage) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/19078
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1532022-11-11T13:56:18  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #19078: test: Extend salvage test for wallet tool (master...2005-testWalletToolSalvage) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/19078
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1582022-11-11T14:09:12  <stickies-v> ack harding's release notes (with some minor comments left), I think keeping the release notes simple and actionable is key, and zero-conf is a well-known term among users and merchants. Calling it something else would unnecessarily confuse the people we're trying to reach, in my view
1592022-11-11T14:09:46  <brunoerg> stickies-v: I agree
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1622022-11-11T14:20:14  <fanquake> I also agree. Language like "and those attempting it usually incompetent." is obviously not something we are going to put into release notes.
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1712022-11-11T14:51:49  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto closed pull request #26482: ci: Drop redundant configuration options (master...221110-ci) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26482
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1892022-11-11T17:06:27  <lightlike> I agree too. Left a question about other implementations at the gist.
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1962022-11-11T18:01:19  <bytes1440000> I had no incentives and have  incentives but luke-jr deserved more for reviews
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1992022-11-11T18:12:04  <bytes1440000> I am already shadow banned on github because notifications not expected, and some issues here. Maybe I need a new account because bitcoin core is not just some devs, there are some people who cannot read things they dont like.
2002022-11-11T18:13:57  <bytes1440000> TOS doesnt matter FYI
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2062022-11-11T19:53:13  <PaperSword> Is there a simple way to run the CI tests? I am currently running ./ci/test_run_all.sh and it just exists with 'configure exit 1'
2072022-11-11T19:53:46  <brunoerg> you can set up the CI on your personal repo
2082022-11-11T19:58:45  <PaperSword> a fork of core being my repo right? Do I need to setup a configuration file to get the ci test to run?
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2112022-11-11T20:22:46  <sipa> if you cloned the bitcoin core repo, you already have that config file, because it is part of the repo
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2232022-11-11T21:35:33  <harding> ariard, stickies-v, lightlike: thanks for constructive comments on the mempoolfullrbf draft release notes gist! I believe I've made edits for all actionable feedback: https://gist.github.com/harding/f3cd8affb10cea96d352347fed7f4a3a/revisions#diff-31b5d0007b4577c5fc252f5ce3029a67fd36f54453d0218f5fc57835ab240a75
2242022-11-11T21:37:03  <luke-jr> still full of FUD
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2522022-11-11T23:09:09  <NorrinRadd> the FUD is calling an alternative approach propaganda
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