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302022-11-17T03:42:02 <lightlike> Maybe it's in fact only happening in case of a disconnect race, but if you allow incoming peers and there are constantly spy nodes connecting/disconnecting you as seems to be the case on mainnet recently ( https://b10c.me/observations/05-inbound-connection-flooder-down/) these races are more common than one would think.
312022-11-17T04:14:59 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jonatack opened pull request #26516: Always return getpeerinfo "relaytxes" field (master...2022-11-getpeerinfo-relayxes) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26516
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332022-11-17T04:15:57 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jonatack closed pull request #26328: netinfo: fix relaytxes doc, display 3 relaytxes states (master...update-netinfo-relaytxes-help) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26328
342022-11-17T04:25:50 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jonatack reopened pull request #26328: netinfo: fix relaytxes doc, display 3 relaytxes states (master...update-netinfo-relaytxes-help) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26328
352022-11-17T04:29:08 <lightlike> For example, my node has received ~3 new incoming connections per second recently on average - summing up to over 7 Million connections over a month. So if you poll getpeerinfo once per second in this situation, the chance of a race with a disconnect is probably significant.
362022-11-17T04:48:17 <jonatack> lightlike: how many peers do you have?
372022-11-17T04:51:09 <jonatack> I think you may be right about the disconnection only.
382022-11-17T04:51:15 * jonatack sleep
392022-11-17T04:53:34 <lightlike> didn't change the default, so ~125. The growth in NodeId can be inferred from the debug log, where new outbound connections are logged with the respective Node Id.
402022-11-17T04:57:52 <bitcoin-git> [gui] jonatack opened pull request #681: Fix Transaction Relay tooltip text in Peers details window (master...relaytxes-tooltip-fix) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gui/pull/681
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432022-11-17T05:01:43 <jonatack> lightlike: oh, i don't doubt you, i have also seen high peer id numbers at times relative to node uptime
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512022-11-17T05:44:42 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Randy808 opened pull request #26517: test: Changed small_txpuzzle_randfee to return the virtual size instead of the transaction hex for feerate calculation. (master...use-vsize-for-fee-tests) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26517
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692022-11-17T08:11:51 <b10c> lightlike: that sounds similar to what I've observed, but more extreme. I've seen 1 inbound per sec vs your 3 inbound per sec
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742022-11-17T08:32:06 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] willcl-ark closed pull request #26512: init: Evaluate sysperms before config file (master...2022_13371_sysperms) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26512
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812022-11-17T09:24:25 <bitcoin-git> [gui] MarcoFalke merged pull request #681: Fix Transaction Relay tooltip text in Peers details window (master...relaytxes-tooltip-fix) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gui/pull/681
822022-11-17T09:24:45 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/6863ad79a658...82fe672ea078
832022-11-17T09:24:46 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 7a53033 Jon Atack: Fix Transaction Relay tooltip text in Peers details window
842022-11-17T09:24:46 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 82fe672 MacroFake: Merge bitcoin-core/gui#681: Fix Transaction Relay tooltip text in Peers de...
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922022-11-17T10:22:05 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #26519: test: Add getpeerinfo test for missing version message (master...2211-test-rpc-no-ver-ð) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26519
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962022-11-17T11:21:43 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] theStack opened pull request #26520: doc: test: update/fix TestShell example instructions (master...202211-test-doc-update_test_shell_instrs) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26520
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1022022-11-17T11:48:49 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 4 commits to 24.x: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/dce93b2dd7a9...dd314fe0c2f6
1032022-11-17T11:48:49 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/24.x 7c8e5e6 fanquake: build: Bump version to 24.0 final
1042022-11-17T11:48:49 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/24.x 7b9d904 fanquake: doc: Generate manual pages for 24.0 final
1052022-11-17T11:48:50 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/24.x 0ee1cfe fanquake: doc: add 24.0 release notes
1062022-11-17T11:48:51 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #26503: [24.x] bump version to v24.0 (24.x...24_0_final) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26503
1072022-11-17T11:50:34 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed tag v24.0: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/v24.0
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1242022-11-17T14:13:02 <Earnestly> Is there a known problem with building: config.status: error: Something went wrong bootstrapping makefile fragments for automatic dependency tracking.
1252022-11-17T14:13:31 <fanquake> are you using make instead of gmake?
1262022-11-17T14:14:34 <fanquake> you may see that error on *BSD if that is the make
1272022-11-17T14:14:40 <fanquake> *the case
1282022-11-17T14:14:58 <Earnestly> fanquake: Interesting, it is GNU make but since you prompted me to get the version, it's getting linking errors. Hopefully it's just a borked build on my end
1292022-11-17T14:16:41 <Earnestly> This old machine has a long forgotten mix of random git builds (make was one of them, libguile updated just recently but that make wasn't rebuilt against it). Seems fine now
1302022-11-17T14:16:46 <Earnestly> Thanks for the prompt
1312022-11-17T14:30:32 <bitcoin-git> [gui] hebasto merged pull request #680: Fixes MacOS 13 segfault by preventing certain notifications after main window is destroyed (master...202211MacSegfaultOnQuit) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gui/pull/680
1322022-11-17T14:30:33 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/82fe672ea078...fb01af6c77b6
1332022-11-17T14:30:33 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 8a5014c John Moffett: Fixes bitcoin#26490 by preventing notifications
1342022-11-17T14:30:33 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fb01af6 Hennadii Stepanov: Merge bitcoin-core/gui#680: Fixes MacOS 13 segfault by preventing certain ...
1352022-11-17T14:38:34 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto opened pull request #26521: [22.x] GUI backports (22.x...221117-22.1-gui-bp) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26521
1362022-11-17T14:42:13 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto opened pull request #26522: [23.x] GUI backports (23.x...221117-23.1-gui-bp) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26522
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1382022-11-17T14:45:02 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto opened pull request #26523: [24.x] GUI backports (24.x...221117-24.1-gui-bp) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26523
1392022-11-17T14:48:53 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #26524: doc: add 24.0 release notes (master...add_24_rel_notes) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26524
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1512022-11-17T16:46:05 <achow101> do we have some kind of orphan pool for transactions whose ancestor coinbases that are reorged out of the main chain? See https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26499#issuecomment-1318912195
1522022-11-17T16:47:47 <glozow> achow101: afaik no, they should just be dropped
1532022-11-17T16:48:41 <achow101> that's what I thought. but sometimes in this test an unconfirmed descendant of a reorged coinbase is appearing back in the mempool when that coinbase is re-reorged back in
1542022-11-17T16:56:20 <glozow> fascinating... is it possible the descendant was in the reorg chain?
1552022-11-17T16:56:34 <achow101> no, it's definitely unconfirmed
1562022-11-17T16:57:16 <achow101> I'm wondering if it's maybe queued for relay when the first reorg happens?
1572022-11-17T16:58:37 <glozow> that may be true, like it's in `mapRelay` or something and the tx gets relayed back again?
1582022-11-17T16:59:49 <glozow> yeah maybe nodes[1] gets it, then sends it back to nodes[0]?
1592022-11-17T17:01:05 <achow101> node1 is the originator though
1602022-11-17T17:02:11 <achow101> I think it might be that node0 just never received it until after the second reorg, and it might just need a self.sync_mempool() before invalidateblock
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1622022-11-17T17:03:13 <glozow> sounds plausible
1632022-11-17T17:07:16 <achow101> ok, that seems to have fixed the problem
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1652022-11-17T17:10:43 <glozow> nice
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1682022-11-17T17:16:18 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] BitcoinErrorLog opened pull request #26525: Remove -mempoolfullrbf option (master...2022-11-remove-mempoolfullrbf) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26525
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1782022-11-17T18:57:28 <fanquake> To github.com:bitcoin-core/bitcoin-detached-sigs.git
1792022-11-17T18:57:30 <fanquake> * [new tag] v24.0 -> v24.0
1802022-11-17T19:01:02 <achow101> #startmeeting
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1862022-11-17T19:01:18 <achow101> #bitcoin-core-dev Meeting: achow101 _aj_ amiti ariard b10c BlueMatt cfields Chris_Stewart_5 darosior digi_james dongcarl elichai2 emilengler fanquake fjahr gleb glozow gmaxwell gwillen hebasto instagibbs jamesob jarolrod jb55 jeremyrubin jl2012 jnewbery jonasschnelli jonatack jtimon kallewoof kanzure kvaciral laanwj larryruane lightlike luke-jr maaku marcofalke meshcollider michagogo moneyball morcos nehan NicolasDorier paveljanik petertodd
1872022-11-17T19:01:19 <achow101> phantomcircuit promag provoostenator ryanofsky sdaftuar sipa vasild
1882022-11-17T19:01:25 <jonatack> hi
1892022-11-17T19:01:34 <achow101> Welcome to the weekly general IRC meeting.
1902022-11-17T19:01:57 <achow101> There are no pre-proposed meeting topics this week. Does anyone have any last minutes topics to discuss?
1912022-11-17T19:02:10 <furszy> hi
1922022-11-17T19:02:35 <brunoerg> hi
1932022-11-17T19:03:06 <achow101> Let's start with the usual
1942022-11-17T19:03:11 <achow101> #topic High priority for review
1952022-11-17T19:03:11 <core-meetingbot> topic: High priority for review
1962022-11-17T19:03:13 <achow101> https://github.com/orgs/bitcoin/projects/1
1972022-11-17T19:03:20 <achow101> anything to add/remove/merge?
1982022-11-17T19:04:31 <jb55> hi
1992022-11-17T19:05:40 <achow101> semms not
2002022-11-17T19:05:53 <achow101> does anyone have anything to discuss today?
2012022-11-17T19:07:43 <luke-jr> ._.
2022022-11-17T19:07:52 <achow101> guess not
2032022-11-17T19:07:53 <achow101> #endmeeting
2042022-11-17T19:07:54 <core-meetingbot> topic: Bitcoin Core development discussion and commit log | Feel free to watch, but please take commentary and usage questions to #bitcoin | Channel logs: http://www.erisian.com.au/bitcoin-core-dev/, http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/ | Meeting topics http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/proposedmeetingtopics.txt / http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/proposedwalletmeetingtopics.txt
2052022-11-17T19:07:54 <core-meetingbot> Meeting ended Thu Nov 17 19:07:53 2022 UTC.
2062022-11-17T19:07:54 <core-meetingbot> Minutes: https://bitcoin.jonasschnelli.ch/ircmeetings/logs/bitcoin-core-dev/2022/bitcoin-core-dev.2022-11-17-19.01.moin.txt
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2102022-11-17T19:40:01 <luke-jr> achow101: btw, just saying it as someone who objected to that other PR recently being locked: I don't mind if this new repeat is locked.
2112022-11-17T19:40:20 <achow101> I'm considering just closing it
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2132022-11-17T19:41:08 <luke-jr> or that
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2252022-11-17T20:30:15 <jonatack> luke-jr: achow101: as an alternate pov, perhaps consider letting the discussion run if it doesn't cost anything. like with taproot activation, people like to feel they were able to express their concerns and feedback and be heard. the original pr was only open for a month before merge, and suhas closing the revert didn't necessarily mean the discussion was over.
2262022-11-17T20:30:52 <jonatack> achow101: though i agree with your feedback on the pull
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2292022-11-17T20:37:01 <luke-jr> jonatack: I'm simply saying I don't object
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2372022-11-17T21:43:53 <ariard> If #26525 got unlocked, I would like to comment at least ; Not changing my position from #26438 and ~0 on current #26525, however for sure we should think more how we design and release policy changes in the future
2382022-11-17T21:43:55 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/26525 | Remove -mempoolfullrbf option by BitcoinErrorLog · Pull Request #26525 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
2392022-11-17T21:43:56 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/26438 | Remove mempoolfullrbf option by sdaftuar · Pull Request #26438 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
2402022-11-17T21:43:58 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/26525 | Remove -mempoolfullrbf option by BitcoinErrorLog · Pull Request #26525 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
2412022-11-17T21:44:55 <ariard> Something I'm interested to address, though current PR doesn't bring new information to me changing the discussion
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2462022-11-17T21:57:43 <achow101> ariard: I will unlock it in a few hours
2472022-11-17T22:05:23 <ariard> achow101: thanks, yeah good to let things cooling down
2482022-11-17T22:13:54 <luke-jr> ariard: maybe open a new issue for that?
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