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1502023-01-12T09:30:00 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #26877: doc: move errant release note to doc/ (master...move_rel_notes) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26877
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1522023-01-12T09:42:25 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/fbe5e1220a35...535adce2721f
1532023-01-12T09:42:25 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 94d0c41 fanquake: build: remove already tested headers from AC_CHECK_HEADERS
1542023-01-12T09:42:26 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 535adce fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#26825: build: remove already tested headers from AC_...
1552023-01-12T09:42:42 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #26825: build: remove already tested headers from AC_CHECK_HEADERS (master...remove_already_tested_headers) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26825
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1612023-01-12T09:58:38 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #26878: [24.x] Backports (24.x...24_x_backports) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26878
1622023-01-12T09:59:06 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/535adce2721f...bd7400453267
1632023-01-12T09:59:07 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master c28d461 fanquake: doc: move errant release note to doc/
1642023-01-12T09:59:07 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master bd74004 MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#26877: doc: move errant release note to doc/
1652023-01-12T09:59:12 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #26877: doc: move errant release note to doc/ (master...move_rel_notes) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26877
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1812023-01-12T10:53:58 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #26879: [23.x] ci: reaplce intel macos ci job (23.x...23_remove_intel_macos_ci) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26879
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1852023-01-12T10:58:29 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #26880: [24.x] ci: replace Intel macOS CI job (24.x...2301-ci-24.x-ð) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26880
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2072023-01-12T11:54:14 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/bd7400453267...edc3d1b296e3
2082023-01-12T11:54:14 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa1bf4e MarcoFalke: test: Fix intermittent timeout in p2p_permissions.py
2092023-01-12T11:54:15 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master edc3d1b MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#26854: test: Fix intermittent timeout in p2p_permiss...
2102023-01-12T11:54:27 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #26854: test: Fix intermittent timeout in p2p_permissions.py (master...2301-test-timeout-p2p-perm-ð) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26854
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2132023-01-12T12:14:20 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 5 commits to 24.x: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/0da38b6b0e74...5148145b3597
2142023-01-12T12:14:20 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/24.x 644c030 MacroFake: ci: Remove unused package
2152023-01-12T12:14:21 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/24.x ce2a072 MacroFake: ci: Allow PIP_PACKAGES on centos
2162023-01-12T12:14:21 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/24.x 50ad39d Hennadii Stepanov: ci: Make `getopt` path architecture agnostic
2172023-01-12T12:14:25 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #26880: [24.x] ci: replace Intel macOS CI job (24.x...2301-ci-24.x-ð) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26880
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2242023-01-12T12:52:04 <_aj_> hmm, the pyzmq 25.0 release from 40 minutes ago seems to be breaking CI for bitcoin-inquisition; maybe breaking master/24.0 too? https://cirrus-ci.com/task/6396380575432704
2252023-01-12T12:52:51 <_aj_> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26878/checks?check_run_id=10603893715 seems related
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2352023-01-12T13:22:42 <MacroFake> I wondered yesterday if we should pin the zmq dependency, but then figured that it is used so widely that it would be unlikely they introduced a bug
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2382023-01-12T13:28:24 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #26882: test: skip sqlite3 tests if it isn't available (master...func_tests_check_import_sqlite) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26882
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2402023-01-12T13:38:17 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] stickies-v opened pull request #26883: refactor: follow-ups for #26695 (master...w/n26695-followups) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26883
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2722023-01-12T15:52:35 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/edc3d1b296e3...fcd1a57be060
2732023-01-12T15:52:35 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 672f7ad fanquake: doc: remove usages of C++11
2742023-01-12T15:52:36 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fcd1a57 MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#26827: doc: use "std lib clock" over "C++11 clock"
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2782023-01-12T16:15:05 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #26827: doc: use "std lib clock" over "C++11 clock" (master...doc_std_lib_clocks) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26827
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2882023-01-12T16:54:58 <michaelfolkson> fanquake glozow: If you're around can you attend today's IRC meeting. I'd like to discuss the vasild maintainer situation, seems like a farce at this point
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3072023-01-12T18:39:43 <jamesob> sipa: is the tapleaf version 0xC0 declared as a constant anywhere in the code? can't find it
3082023-01-12T18:40:32 <sipa> TAPROOT_LEAF_TAPSCRIPT
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3102023-01-12T18:45:05 <jamesob> thanks
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3142023-01-12T19:00:28 <achow101> #startmeeting
3152023-01-12T19:00:28 <core-meetingbot> Meeting started Thu Jan 12 19:00:28 2023 UTC. The chair is achow101. Information about MeetBot at https://bitcoin.jonasschnelli.ch/ircmeetings.
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3172023-01-12T19:00:45 <michaelfolkson> hi
3182023-01-12T19:00:51 <achow101> #bitcoin-core-dev Meeting: achow101 aj amiti ariard b10c BlueMatt cfields Chris_Stewart_5 darosior digi_james dongcarl elichai2 emilengler fanquake fjahr gleb glozow gmaxwell gwillen hebasto instagibbs jamesob jarolrod jb55 jeremyrubin jl2012 jnewbery jonasschnelli jonatack jtimon kallewoof kanzure kvaciral laanwj larryruane lightlike luke-jr maaku marcofalke meshcollider michagogo moneyball morcos nehan NicolasDorier paveljanik petertodd
3192023-01-12T19:00:51 <achow101> phantomcircuit promag provoostenator ryanofsky sdaftuar sipa vasild
3202023-01-12T19:01:03 <jamesob> hi
3212023-01-12T19:01:16 <hebasto> hi
3222023-01-12T19:01:19 <vasild> hi
3232023-01-12T19:01:29 <achow101> There are 3 preproposed meeting topics
3242023-01-12T19:01:34 <brunoerg> hi
3252023-01-12T19:01:47 <achow101> but let's start with the usual
3262023-01-12T19:01:53 <achow101> #topic High priority for review
3272023-01-12T19:01:53 <core-meetingbot> topic: High priority for review
3282023-01-12T19:01:55 <furszy> hi
3292023-01-12T19:01:59 <kanzure> hi
3302023-01-12T19:02:01 <lightlike> hi
3312023-01-12T19:02:09 <achow101> https://github.com/orgs/bitcoin/projects/1 anything to add/remove/merge?
3322023-01-12T19:03:55 <MacroFake> hi
3332023-01-12T19:04:15 <MacroFake> I'd like to have #26039
3342023-01-12T19:04:17 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/26039 | refactor: Run type check against RPCArgs (1/2) by MarcoFalke · Pull Request #26039 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
3352023-01-12T19:04:47 <achow101> MacroFake: done
3362023-01-12T19:04:52 <MacroFake> thanks
3372023-01-12T19:05:18 <sipa> I'd like #26691
3382023-01-12T19:05:20 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/26691 | Update secp256k1 subtree to libsecp256k1 version 0.2.0 by sipa · Pull Request #26691 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
3392023-01-12T19:05:54 <achow101> sipa: added
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3412023-01-12T19:07:13 <achow101> #topic #25871 (bytes1440000)
3422023-01-12T19:07:13 <core-meetingbot> topic: #25871 (bytes1440000)
3432023-01-12T19:07:15 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/25871 | contrib: add vasild to trusted keys by vasild · Pull Request #25871 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
3442023-01-12T19:07:16 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/25871 | contrib: add vasild to trusted keys by vasild · Pull Request #25871 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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3462023-01-12T19:08:27 <michaelfolkson> I'm happy to pick this one up if bytes1440000 isn't here
3472023-01-12T19:08:36 <michaelfolkson> Basically the same one as mine
3482023-01-12T19:09:23 <michaelfolkson> So the PR to add vasild as a maintainer has now been open 5 months https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/25871
3492023-01-12T19:09:40 <achow101> I think it's clear that there is disagreement that vasild should be added as a maintainer, and so by that basis alone, should not be due to lack of consensus
3502023-01-12T19:09:55 <michaelfolkson> What is the reasoning?
3512023-01-12T19:10:19 <michaelfolkson> And why can't fanquake and/or glozow comment on the PR?
3522023-01-12T19:10:27 <achow101> however, this is basically new territory for us, as far as I can remember, all previous maintainers were added without any disagreement at all
3532023-01-12T19:10:56 <michaelfolkson> I'm assuming given the secrecy vasild supposedly has some dark secrets that we can't discuss
3542023-01-12T19:11:11 <michaelfolkson> Or that fanquake and glozow don't value discussing anything in public
3552023-01-12T19:11:37 <michaelfolkson> The silence is absurd
3562023-01-12T19:12:21 <michaelfolkson> What are next steps? Just let fanquake and glozow block whatever they want without disclosing why?
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3582023-01-12T19:12:52 <sipa> Previous maintainers were also all selected because existing maintainers saw a need, and nominated somewhere. It's unclear to me where this is coming from here.
3592023-01-12T19:13:02 <sipa> *someone
3602023-01-12T19:13:13 <achow101> from what I can tell, I believe the concern is the lack of addressing the specific concerns brought up in https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/25871#issuecomment-1257032315
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3622023-01-12T19:13:52 <michaelfolkson> I get you're neutral sipa but the other maintainers have ACKed it, many long term contributors have ACKed it. fanquake and glozow have to have a reason
3632023-01-12T19:14:08 <achow101> I think the removal of the net_processing scope was part of that, it doesn't address the concerns regarding review participation (or lack thereof)
3642023-01-12T19:14:13 <michaelfolkson> This can't be how the project is managed going forward
3652023-01-12T19:14:23 <michaelfolkson> It isn't fair on vasild
3662023-01-12T19:15:04 <michaelfolkson> Concerns were raised with glozow when she became maintainer and that was merged within days
3672023-01-12T19:15:26 <michaelfolkson> Ok so some suggestions for next steps?
3682023-01-12T19:15:37 <achow101> iirc they were addressed, sufficiently that those who raised them ack'd
3692023-01-12T19:15:44 <michaelfolkson> Close the PR? Wait for fanquake and glozow to decide the next maintainer?
3702023-01-12T19:15:59 <michaelfolkson> And provide no rationale for their choice?
3712023-01-12T19:16:01 <_aj_> next steps? stop trying to make vasild a maintainer when there's no particular need, work on making good PRs and reviewing them
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3742023-01-12T19:16:35 <sipa> I'm mostly neutral on vasild being added. I'm not neutral on a maintainer being added in the first place - without having a discussion about why another one is needed, I don't understand why we're having this discussion in the first place.
3752023-01-12T19:17:10 <michaelfolkson> Ok so comment on the PR sipa and _aj_ that another maintainer isn't needed and NACK it
3762023-01-12T19:17:19 <vasild> some opinions on the PR state that the p2p/networking area is so big that it warrants two maintainers...
3772023-01-12T19:17:31 <MacroFake> michaelfolkson: sipa already said that on the pull
3782023-01-12T19:17:42 <michaelfolkson> MacroFake: He didn't NACK it
3792023-01-12T19:17:44 <instagibbs> mic check (sorry)
3802023-01-12T19:17:51 <achow101> instagibbs: working
3812023-01-12T19:18:04 <MacroFake> michaelfolkson: I think it is rude to request others to NACK a pull
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3832023-01-12T19:18:22 <sipa> No, that is not what I'm saying. I'm not NACKing vasild, nor am I NACKing adding another maintainer. I'm saying I'd want to see a discussion about whether another one is needed. I haven
3842023-01-12T19:18:31 <sipa> 't seen that discussion.
3852023-01-12T19:18:32 <michaelfolkson> I think it is rude for a potential maintainer to be sitting there for 5 months not knowing what is going on
3862023-01-12T19:18:32 <lightlike> wasn't the original reason that laanwj (who was doing much of the merging in net) stopped being a maintainer?
3872023-01-12T19:18:57 <vasild> lightlike: yes, that was
3882023-01-12T19:19:01 <sipa> And as far as I'm concerned, it's existing maintainers who have to answer that question.
3892023-01-12T19:19:56 <michaelfolkson> I think it is rude for 2 maintainers to just ignore a PR for a new maintainer with so many ACKs
3902023-01-12T19:20:08 <michaelfolkson> And ignore requests for them to comment and appear at meetings
3912023-01-12T19:20:11 <_aj_> i've only found it hard to get review of changes in net; not merges once review's passed.
3922023-01-12T19:20:37 <_aj_> this entire topic seems much more like it's following https://www.openculture.com/2022/01/read-the-cias-simple-sabotage-field-manual.html rather than trying to solve actual problems to me
3932023-01-12T19:21:26 <michaelfolkson> Well the sabotage of Vasil being maintainer, yeah maybe
3942023-01-12T19:21:50 <michaelfolkson> You saying fanquake and glozow are CIA _aj_?
3952023-01-12T19:21:55 <sipa> wtf
3962023-01-12T19:22:00 <MacroFake> (slightly off topic: let's not mix up the low level net scope and the higher level p2p net processing scope, while there is overlap, they are largely different modules)
3972023-01-12T19:22:20 <vasild> If existent maintainers think there is no need for a new one, maybe it would be good to state so. And maybe some maintainer to claim that area? Btw that would put the discussion whether my "skills" are tuned to p2p or just networking in a strange light.
3982023-01-12T19:22:30 <achow101> michaelfolkson: why is it so important tht vasild become maintainer to you? Is it about him specifically or about the process?
3992023-01-12T19:23:00 <achow101> I could just nack and close the pr if it makes you feel better ...
4002023-01-12T19:23:21 <michaelfolkson> achow101: Vasil is being treated awfully. I hated when Luke was treated badly during Taproot activation and hate this
4012023-01-12T19:23:53 <michaelfolkson> Some people think they can do whatever they want and don't need to tell anyone anything. On a supposedly open source project
4022023-01-12T19:24:35 <michaelfolkson> If everyone else is happy with it then I'm in the minority
4032023-01-12T19:25:03 <michaelfolkson> But I wouldn't blame Vasil for moving on to other things. The communication is a joke
4042023-01-12T19:25:20 <achow101> frankly, I think opinions aren't being shared because of potential backlash from aggressive users such as yourself and bytes1440000
4052023-01-12T19:25:33 <michaelfolkson> Ok move on to the next topic then
4062023-01-12T19:25:53 <_aj_> the only lowish level net PR on high pri or PR status projects is #25515 which is in draft. adding #26837 might be a more productive step?
4072023-01-12T19:25:56 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/25515 | net, test: Virtualise CConnman and add initial PeerManager unit tests by dergoegge · Pull Request #25515 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
4082023-01-12T19:25:58 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/26837 | I2P network optimizations by vasild · Pull Request #26837 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
4092023-01-12T19:26:33 <achow101> _aj_: done
4102023-01-12T19:26:39 <michaelfolkson> I will consider Bitcoin Core a project where fanquake and glozow can make whatever decisions they want without communicating why from now on. I didn't think it was that way but apparently it is
4112023-01-12T19:26:43 <vasild> would be nice if 26837 makes it to the next release
4122023-01-12T19:27:24 <dergoegge> #25515 can be removed from high-prio, gotta get around to updating it (it got quite a few concept acks, which is what i wanted)
4132023-01-12T19:27:27 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/25515 | net, test: Virtualise CConnman and add initial PeerManager unit tests by dergoegge · Pull Request #25515 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
4142023-01-12T19:27:57 <lightlike> or even have 26837 as a backport candidate? (if it actually helps the stabililty of the i2p network)
4152023-01-12T19:28:02 <achow101> dergoegge: done
4162023-01-12T19:29:20 <achow101> #topic #26868 (bytes1440000)
4172023-01-12T19:29:20 <core-meetingbot> topic: #26868 (bytes1440000)
4182023-01-12T19:29:21 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/26868 | [WIP] doc: add MAINTAINERS.md by 1440000bytes · Pull Request #26868 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
4192023-01-12T19:29:21 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/26868 | [WIP] doc: add MAINTAINERS.md by 1440000bytes · Pull Request #26868 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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4212023-01-12T19:30:25 <achow101> The pr this is pulled from was closed due to lack of intereset. I suspect the same will happen again
4222023-01-12T19:30:31 <MacroFake> Looks like people can leave a comment on the pull, unless there is a need to discuss something on IRC?
4232023-01-12T19:30:59 <achow101> I think he just wants to bring attention to it
4242023-01-12T19:31:20 <achow101> michaelfolkson: I presume your proposed topic was sufficiently discussed already?
4252023-01-12T19:31:30 <michaelfolkson> achow101: Indeed
4262023-01-12T19:31:57 <achow101> does anyone have anything else they would like to discuss?
4272023-01-12T19:32:11 <_aj_> unrelatedly, is there any way to do pushes so that github better detects that PR's were merged, so they get the purple colour instead of the red colour? eg #26856 or #26827? maybe push to the repo the PR was from first, and delay for a few minutes before also pushing to the other (gui/main) one?
4282023-01-12T19:32:12 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/26856 | ci: Run one task with all tests on credits by MarcoFalke · Pull Request #26856 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
4292023-01-12T19:32:13 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/26827 | doc: use "std lib clock" over "C++11 clock" by fanquake · Pull Request #26827 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
4302023-01-12T19:32:43 <MacroFake> _aj_: Maybe a "Closes #pull_number" would help?
4312023-01-12T19:33:02 <MacroFake> Or we could ditch GitHub (hides)
4322023-01-12T19:33:13 <achow101> _aj_: I haven't noticed any patterns in how it detects it, seems rather spurious to me
4332023-01-12T19:33:58 <MacroFake> I contacted support a few years ago and they told me "they are working on it"
4342023-01-12T19:34:21 <MacroFake> it's an intermittent issue
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4372023-01-12T19:35:12 <instagibbs> request a force-purple button
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4392023-01-12T19:35:38 <achow101> #endmeeting
4402023-01-12T19:35:38 <core-meetingbot> topic: Bitcoin Core development discussion and commit log | Feel free to watch, but please take commentary and usage questions to #bitcoin | Channel logs: http://www.erisian.com.au/bitcoin-core-dev/, http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/ | Meeting topics http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/proposedmeetingtopics.txt / http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/proposedwalletmeetingtopics.txt
4412023-01-12T19:35:38 <core-meetingbot> Meeting ended Thu Jan 12 19:35:38 2023 UTC.
4422023-01-12T19:35:38 <core-meetingbot> Minutes: https://bitcoin.jonasschnelli.ch/ircmeetings/logs/bitcoin-core-dev/2023/bitcoin-core-dev.2023-01-12-19.00.moin.txt
4432023-01-12T19:38:10 <_aj_> MacroFake: presumably there'll be a nostr based replacement for PR review any day now
4442023-01-12T19:39:07 <michaelfolkson> If anyone agrees with me on this please reach out privately. I am very surprised by the reaction on a supposedly open source project
4452023-01-12T19:39:21 <_aj_> https://github.com/isaacs/github/issues/363 -- seems like "closes #" also just marks it as red, not merged/purple
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4472023-01-12T19:40:11 <MacroFake> _aj_: Heh, could be added to https://github.com/bitcoin-core/bitcoin-devwiki/wiki/GitHub-alternatives-for-Bitcoin-Core
4482023-01-12T19:46:12 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/fcd1a57be060...f4ef856375c5
4492023-01-12T19:46:13 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa5dccb MarcoFalke: scripted-diff: ci: Rework docker naming
4502023-01-12T19:46:15 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa0584e MarcoFalke: ci: Stop and remove CI container
4512023-01-12T19:46:16 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master f4ef856 MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#26850: ci: Stop and remove CI container
4522023-01-12T19:46:27 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #26850: ci: Stop and remove CI container (master...2301-ci-container-stop-ðº) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26850
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4552023-01-12T19:49:02 <jamesob> any good reason we don't have granular, optional logging in the script interpreter? Is it performance thing?
4562023-01-12T19:49:12 <jamesob> *is it a
4572023-01-12T19:49:16 <_aj_> for script debugging?
4582023-01-12T19:49:23 <sipa> have you tried btcdeb?
4592023-01-12T19:49:50 <jamesob> _aj_: yeah. sipa: yeah, sort of, but I found it inconvenient I couldn't just feed in hex (afaict?)
4602023-01-12T19:49:56 <achow101> jamesob: because the only people who need that are those write scripts by hand and they're insane :p
4612023-01-12T19:50:11 <jamesob> achow101: haha
4622023-01-12T19:50:51 <jamesob> sipa: if there's some good workflow for going from python CScripts -> btcdeb, I'd be curious to know
4632023-01-12T19:51:39 <sipa> I don't know, just wanted to make sure you were aware of the tool.
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5132023-01-12T23:24:01 <bytes1440000> Sorry I was not available in the meeting for some personal reasons. Many things that I would like to respond to however I had some points written for meeting earlier which I want to share.
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5152023-01-12T23:26:52 <bytes1440000> #25871
5162023-01-12T23:26:54 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/25871 | contrib: add vasild to trusted keys by vasild · Pull Request #25871 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
5172023-01-12T23:27:26 <bytes1440000> Only 2 questions related to this PR: 1. Why is the pull request not merged? 2. Who has the admin access on Github?
5182023-01-12T23:27:51 <bytes1440000> Context for second question: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/26751#issuecomment-1373726890
5192023-01-12T23:29:06 <bytes1440000> I don't see any downsides of adding vasild as new maintainer and here are the positives after evaluating PR which has sufficient ACKs from maintainers and contributors:
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5212023-01-12T23:29:31 <bytes1440000> 1. A project like bitcoin core that is considered one of the top 10 critical open source C++ project would get a maintainer for module that matters the most for a bitcoin node after QA
5222023-01-12T23:29:31 <bytes1440000> 2. Vasild and other contributors would be motivated even if took a few months
5232023-01-12T23:29:32 <bytes1440000> 3. Hopefully we can get more reviews in some p2p/net pull requests helping in close some of the open requests and encouraging contributors to improve things further with more PRs
5242023-01-12T23:29:32 <bytes1440000> 4. It will be a fair decision considering number of ACKs and disagreements being addressed in the pull request by author
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5272023-01-12T23:35:26 <bytes1440000> #26868
5282023-01-12T23:35:27 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/26868 | [WIP] doc: add MAINTAINERS.md by 1440000bytes · Pull Request #26868 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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5302023-01-12T23:40:24 <bytes1440000> - Looking for overall feedback on adding this doc with minimal info
5312023-01-12T23:40:24 <bytes1440000> - 'call for maintainers' section could be added if enough contributors agree
5322023-01-12T23:40:25 <bytes1440000> - Can change 'selection' to a better word if there is any suggestion. A maintainers.md file with list of maintainers and basic stuff about role, adding new maintainer etc. does not affect this project in any negative way.
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5342023-01-12T23:41:16 <bytes1440000> Positives:
5352023-01-12T23:41:16 <bytes1440000> 1. Transparency
5362023-01-12T23:41:17 <bytes1440000> 2. New contributors would be aware of the process
5372023-01-12T23:41:17 <bytes1440000> 3. Less misinformation about bitcoin core and maintainers
5382023-01-12T23:41:18 <bytes1440000> 4. Could help in improving things related to maintainers for this project if we agree on some updates to this doc in future or current pull request
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