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2382023-01-26T08:04:25  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/ab98673f0588...d4c180ecc9ae
2392023-01-26T08:04:25  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fab9582 MarcoFalke: refactor: Remove c_str from util/check
2402023-01-26T08:04:25  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master d4c180e MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#26960: refactor: Remove c_str from util/check
2412023-01-26T08:04:28  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #26960: refactor: Remove c_str from util/check (master...2301-c-str-🔋) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26960
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3092023-01-26T10:37:24  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] glozow pushed 6 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/d4c180ecc9ae...77a36033b5ec
3102023-01-26T10:37:26  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master a4fe099 Anthony Towns: txorphanage: index workset by originating peer
3112023-01-26T10:37:27  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master be23046 Anthony Towns: txorphange: Drop redundant originator arg from GetTxToReconsider
3122023-01-26T10:37:28  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master c583775 Anthony Towns: net_processing: only process orphans before messages
3132023-01-26T10:37:30  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] glozow merged pull request #26551: p2p: Track orphans by who provided them (master...202211-orphanguardians) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26551
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3382023-01-26T11:30:53  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 4 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/77a36033b5ec...79e007d1d60b
3392023-01-26T11:30:53  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa9becf MarcoFalke: streams: Add DataStream without ser-type and ser-version
3402023-01-26T11:30:53  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa29e73 MarcoFalke: Use DataStream where possible
3412023-01-26T11:30:53  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa035fe MarcoFalke: Remove unused CDataStream::SetType
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3432023-01-26T11:32:11  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake closed pull request #25296: Add DataStream without ser-type and ser-version and use it where possible (master...2206-datastream-🎑) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/25296
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3452023-01-26T11:36:08  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] stickies-v opened pull request #26974: refactor: rpc: set TxToJSON default verbosity to SHOW_DETAILS (master...txtojson-default-verbosity-details) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26974
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3702023-01-26T12:26:06  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake closed pull request #25261: rpc: fetch multiple headers in getblockheader() (master...rpc_getblockheader_count) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/25261
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3782023-01-26T13:28:16  <phantomcircuit> so uh DescriptorScriptPubKeyMan::GetID() does a sha256 everytime it's called
3792023-01-26T13:28:38  <phantomcircuit> is it possible for the descriptor it's hashing to change?
3802023-01-26T13:30:06  <furszy> would say that if the ID changes, then it would no longer be an ID.
3812023-01-26T13:30:40  <achow101> phantomcircuit: no. we should probably cache it on startup
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3832023-01-26T13:31:37  <phantomcircuit> achow101: ok cause it's current about 10% of the cpu time for the fast wallet rescan im working on lol
3842023-01-26T13:38:07  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/79e007d1d60b...eee2c2898575
3852023-01-26T13:38:07  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master a66d82e fanquake: depends: systemtap 4.8
3862023-01-26T13:38:08  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master df7ae8b Cory Fields: depends: systemtap: remove variadic params that trigger compiler warnings
3872023-01-26T13:38:08  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master eee2c28 fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#26945: depends: systemtap 4.8
3882023-01-26T13:38:13  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #26945: depends: systemtap 4.8 (master...systemtap_4_8) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26945
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3982023-01-26T14:19:02  <theStack> phantomcircuit: fwiw, an early version of 25957 used pointers instead of these IDs to reference to DescriptorPubKeyMans. but since GetID() is only called if a top-up happened in the previous block, the performance loss wasn't noticable
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4002023-01-26T14:19:21  <theStack> caching the ID on startup seems to be a good idea though
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4022023-01-26T14:21:31  <phantomcircuit> theStack: there's something weird going on here so im working to get a better idea of what it is
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4112023-01-26T14:51:13  <sipa> @phantomcircuit For the decode performance, I think a possibility would be to store the filter data in uint64_t's, and iterate over them one by one, and using shifts and __builtin_ctz on ~input to count consecutive 1 bits for the exponent.
4122023-01-26T14:51:52  <sipa> But it's also not worth spending too much time on optimizing the exponent decoding, as on average, every element should have only 1.05 such one bits.
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4152023-01-26T14:55:47  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/eee2c2898575...ffc22b7d42c6
4162023-01-26T14:55:47  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 7aa4b32 Sebastian Falbesoner: test: refactor: simplify p2p_tx_download.py by using MiniWallet
4172023-01-26T14:55:47  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 8609f24 Sebastian Falbesoner: test: refactor: simplify p2p_eviction.py by using MiniWallet
4182023-01-26T14:55:47  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master ffc22b7 MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#26923: test: refactor: simplify p2p_{tx_download,evi...
4192023-01-26T14:55:52  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #26923: test: refactor: simplify p2p_{tx_download,eviction}.py by using MiniWallet (master...202301-test-simplify_p2p_tx_download_MiniWallet) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26923
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4442023-01-26T16:57:28  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] dergoegge opened pull request #26975: [PoC] Structure aware fuzzing with libprotobuf-mutator (master...2023-01-lpm-poc) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26975
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4782023-01-26T19:00:30  <achow101> #startmeeting
4792023-01-26T19:00:30  <core-meetingbot> Meeting started Thu Jan 26 19:00:30 2023 UTC.  The chair is achow101. Information about MeetBot at https://bitcoin.jonasschnelli.ch/ircmeetings.
4802023-01-26T19:00:30  <core-meetingbot> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
4812023-01-26T19:00:37  <achow101> #bitcoin-core-dev Meeting: achow101 aj amiti ariard b10c BlueMatt cfields Chris_Stewart_5 darosior digi_james dongcarl elichai2 emilengler fanquake fjahr gleb glozow gmaxwell gwillen hebasto instagibbs jamesob jarolrod jb55 jeremyrubin jl2012 jnewbery jonasschnelli jonatack jtimon kallewoof kanzure kvaciral laanwj larryruane lightlike luke-jr maaku marcofalke meshcollider michagogo moneyball morcos nehan NicolasDorier paveljanik petertodd
4822023-01-26T19:00:37  <achow101> phantomcircuit promag provoostenator ryanofsky sdaftuar sipa vasild
4832023-01-26T19:00:42  <hebasto> hi
4842023-01-26T19:00:47  <brunoerg> hi
4852023-01-26T19:00:48  <jonatack> hi
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4872023-01-26T19:01:05  <fjahr> hi
4882023-01-26T19:01:16  <sipa> hi
4892023-01-26T19:01:24  <achow101> There are no preproposed meeting topics today. Does anyone have any last minute topics they would like to add?
4902023-01-26T19:02:11  <achow101> #topic High priority for review
4912023-01-26T19:02:11  <core-meetingbot> topic: High priority for review
4922023-01-26T19:02:22  <achow101> https://github.com/orgs/bitcoin/projects/1 anything to add/remove/merge?
4932023-01-26T19:02:41  <hebasto> may I have #26762 in hi-prio?
4942023-01-26T19:02:44  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/26762 | refactor: Make `CCheckQueue` RAII-styled by hebasto · Pull Request #26762 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
4952023-01-26T19:03:15  <achow101> hebasto: done
4962023-01-26T19:03:21  <hebasto> thanks!
4972023-01-26T19:03:46  <kanzure> hi
4982023-01-26T19:05:03  <jonatack> Could use more reviewers on hi-prio pulls #26837 and #25325
4992023-01-26T19:05:05  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/25325 | Add pool based memory resource by martinus · Pull Request #25325 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
5002023-01-26T19:05:07  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/26837 | I2P network optimizations by vasild · Pull Request #26837 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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5022023-01-26T19:06:34  <achow101> anything else to discuss this week?
5032023-01-26T19:07:53  <Murch1> No
5042023-01-26T19:07:56  <achow101> #endmeeting
5052023-01-26T19:07:57  <core-meetingbot> topic: Bitcoin Core development discussion and commit log | Feel free to watch, but please take commentary and usage questions to #bitcoin | Channel logs: http://www.erisian.com.au/bitcoin-core-dev/, http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/ | Meeting topics http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/proposedmeetingtopics.txt / http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/proposedwalletmeetingtopics.txt
5062023-01-26T19:07:57  <core-meetingbot> Meeting ended Thu Jan 26 19:07:56 2023 UTC.
5072023-01-26T19:07:57  <core-meetingbot> Minutes:        https://bitcoin.jonasschnelli.ch/ircmeetings/logs/bitcoin-core-dev/2023/bitcoin-core-dev.2023-01-26-19.00.moin.txt
5082023-01-26T19:09:02  <Murch1> lol, achow101
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5342023-01-26T20:17:21  <jamesob> late hi
5352023-01-26T20:17:51  <sipa> jamesob: have you been living under a vault?
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5372023-01-26T20:18:28  <jamesob> sipa: I was stuck in the withdrawal timelock
5382023-01-26T20:20:17  <jamesob> question for the mempool afficianados: under the current thinking, will package relay/EAs facilitate a packaged relay of multiple unconfirmed parents, each of which has an EA, with a common child providing fees by consuming all the EAs?
5392023-01-26T20:21:01  <jamesob> cc glozow instagibbs sdaftuar ^
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5482023-01-26T20:37:51  <jamesob> sipa: have you thought at all about how post-CScriptCheck() transaction validation might work? Like say, for example, if you wanted to accumulate some information about each vin's script during CScriptCheck() and then use that to do some general validation on the outputs of the transaction. I think something like that might be necessary for
5492023-01-26T20:37:51  <jamesob> cross-input sig. agg., and there may be a use in vaults too...
5502023-01-26T20:38:26  <sipa> batch validation will need that too
5512023-01-26T20:38:56  <sipa> my idea would be that there is first a phase of per-script validation, using the existing mechanism, just as it is today
5522023-01-26T20:39:31  <sipa> but instead of just returning true/false, they'd return more complex data structures that get accumulated in per-thread, and then a global structure
5532023-01-26T20:39:34  <jamesob> yep... and then I think _either_ you could do synchronized writes into some shared data structure outside of the script check pool _or_ you could have each cscriptcheck return some data
5542023-01-26T20:39:50  <sipa> and then a second phase runs whatever is necessary on the global structure
5552023-01-26T20:40:40  <sipa> for batch validation, that'd be an unordered list of (sighash, pubkey, sig) tuples.
5562023-01-26T20:42:29  <jamesob> sounds good to me... any code written as far as you know?
5572023-01-26T20:42:35  <sipa> i don't think the implementation is very hard, but i haven't tried
5582023-01-26T20:42:54  <jamesob> yeah agreed
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5602023-01-26T20:43:15  <jamesob> I'm inclined to try... any good reason not to?
5612023-01-26T20:43:41  <sipa> well we don't even have batch validation implementation at the signature level
5622023-01-26T20:43:57  <sipa> (there is https://github.com/bitcoin-core/secp256k1/pull/1134 though)
5632023-01-26T20:44:29  <jamesob> yeah, but it might let me do combined vault operations across vaults even without compatible parameters... the value there being that I wouldn't have to hardcode "vout[0] is always the main value output"
5642023-01-26T20:45:04  <sipa> in your proposed code you can do whatever you want of course
5652023-01-26T20:45:39  <jamesob> sure, I just don't want to expand the scope wildly or tread on toes if there was already code underway
5662023-01-26T20:45:47  <sipa> right, sure
5672023-01-26T20:46:51  <jamesob> such a change isn't a change to consensus, but it does seem like a pretty profound shift in the execution model
5682023-01-26T20:46:55  <sipa> do make sure the script verification threads don't need locking when adding their post-script-validation data in accumulators; i'd expect that you'd get a serious performance penalty otherwise
5692023-01-26T20:47:03  <sipa> right, exactly
5702023-01-26T20:47:03  <jamesob> right
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5732023-01-26T20:50:57  <bitcoin-git> [gui] john-moffett opened pull request #704: Correctly limit overview transaction list (master...2023_01_FixOverviewTxList) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gui/pull/704
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5752023-01-26T20:58:39  <glozow> jamesob: unfortunately there is no batching with v3 at the moment (1 parent 1 child only)
5762023-01-26T20:59:54  <jamesob> glozow: so not even a single EA-based bump?
5772023-01-26T21:00:39  <jamesob> oh nevermind, that fits into 1p1c...
5782023-01-26T21:02:33  <jamesob> glozow: what makes batching difficult? is there a canonical place where a discussion of this stuff lives? Is this the thread to follow? https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2022-May/020493.html
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5802023-01-26T21:07:30  <glozow> 2 problems. (1) allowing multiple parents means an attacker can still "rule 3 pin" by adding a small but high-fee child spending from an additional large, low-feerate ancestor
5812023-01-26T21:07:30  <glozow> (2) if a child is fee-bumping n 0-fee parents and you replace that child without spending from any of the parents, you now have n dangling 0-fee transactions in the mempool. replacements can do 100 at a time, so 100*n maximum. It would be nice if 100*n is 100 rather than 2400 for example.
5822023-01-26T21:08:36  <glozow> all the discussion is on #25038 at the moment, I've mostly been posting "big" updates to the ML otherwise I feel like I'm spamming everyone
5832023-01-26T21:08:39  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/25038 | policy: nVersion=3 and Package RBF by glozow · Pull Request #25038 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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5862023-01-26T21:11:38  <jamesob> glozow: cool, thanks
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5882023-01-26T21:16:33  <glozow> i imagine EA could also work with a future v4 proposal that allows batching but has some other restrictions
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