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452023-02-07T06:41:59 <PaperSword> Is there any way to differentiate between a testnet and signet bech32 address?
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472023-02-07T07:13:28 <_aj_> PaperSword: the hrp is different (bc vs tb)?
482023-02-07T07:13:56 <_aj_> oh i can't read
492023-02-07T07:14:05 <_aj_> no, testnet and signet addresses are exactly the same
502023-02-07T07:17:44 <PaperSword> So there are no other differentiating factors?
512023-02-07T07:24:12 <_aj_> no. #12314 has some discussion, also #18267
522023-02-07T07:24:14 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/18267 | BIP-325: Signet [consensus] by kallewoof · Pull Request #18267 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
532023-02-07T07:24:16 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/12314 | Bech32 address generation in regtest does not have the prefix `tb` · Issue #12314 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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672023-02-07T09:06:08 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/52ddbd52f980...5a80086ec2c1
682023-02-07T09:06:08 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 1c07500 brunoerg: contrib: make DNS seeds file an argument in CLI
692023-02-07T09:06:08 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 5a80086 MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#26701: contrib: make DNS seeds file an argument in C...
702023-02-07T09:06:13 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #26701: contrib: make DNS seeds file an argument in CLI (`makeseeds`) (master...2022-12-seeds-improv) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26701
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742023-02-07T09:19:43 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj opened pull request #27054: Remove laanwj from trusted-keys (master...remove-laanwj-key) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/27054
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802023-02-07T10:44:58 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 4 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/5a80086ec2c1...6e08e5cb5cca
812023-02-07T10:44:58 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 8a6219e Hennadii Stepanov: Remove `-sysperms` option
822023-02-07T10:44:58 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 581f16e Hennadii Stepanov: Apply default umask in `SetupEnvironment()`
832023-02-07T10:44:58 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master c9ba4f9 Hennadii Stepanov: test: Add test for file system permissions
842023-02-07T10:45:10 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake closed pull request #26088: init: Add option for rpccookie permissions (master...2022-09-rpccookie-perms) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26088
852023-02-07T10:45:15 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #17127: util: Set safe permissions for data directory and `wallets/` subdir (master...20191013-permissions) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17127
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872023-02-07T11:07:46 <hebasto> #proposedmeetingtopic No longer consider Ubuntu Bionic as a supported build platform
882023-02-07T11:08:18 <hebasto> ^ see related details in https://gist.github.com/hebasto/19dc0741bf77e6f7d458f1711a8efb72
892023-02-07T11:13:32 <_aj_> hebasto: after april, it enters "extended security maintenance" which means security and other updates are only available to "ubuntu pro" (or "advantage") subscribers; that seems "end of life" for our purposes...?
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922023-02-07T11:37:27 <hebasto> _aj_: indeed
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952023-02-07T11:59:28 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/6e08e5cb5cca...ab5b26f072a2
962023-02-07T11:59:28 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 6ebe576 Hennadii Stepanov: build: Make dependency package archive timestamps deterministic
972023-02-07T11:59:28 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master ab5b26f fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#21995: build: Make dependency package archive timest...
982023-02-07T11:59:39 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #21995: build: Make dependency package archive timestamps deterministic (master...210519-repro) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21995
992023-02-07T12:01:44 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/ab5b26f072a2...fe86616bb4ad
1002023-02-07T12:01:44 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 1914e47 fanquake: build: copy config.{guess,sub} post autogen in zmq package
1012023-02-07T12:01:45 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fe86616 fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#26421: build: copy config.{guess,sub} post autogen i...
1022023-02-07T12:01:49 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #26421: build: copy config.{guess,sub} post autogen in zmq package (master...fix_macos_zeromq_older_ubuntu) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26421
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1072023-02-07T13:02:24 <MacroFake> hebasto: sgtm. Anyone on Bionic can still compile it with a modern build system and run it on Bionic
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1142023-02-07T14:11:34 <bitcoin-git> [gui] hebasto closed pull request #655: Persist "mask values" in gui (master...jadi-issue652-persist-mask) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gui/pull/655
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1242023-02-07T15:34:47 <provoostenator> How is --m_dir M_DIR of fuzz/test_runner.py supposed to be used? 'Merge inputs from this directory into the corpus_dir.'
1252023-02-07T15:37:37 <MacroFake> provoostenator: I think you can specify any directories that should be merged. Like --m_dir /tmp/gen_a --m_dir /tmp/gen_b /into/your/corpora/dir
1262023-02-07T15:37:46 <provoostenator> Should it be set to wherever src/test/fuzz/fuzz puts new corpus entries?
1272023-02-07T15:38:16 <MacroFake> oh, it is supposed to merge stuff from fuzz farms, that run all fuzz tests.
1282023-02-07T15:38:26 <MacroFake> If you only want to merge one target you can just use libfuzzer direclty
1292023-02-07T15:38:42 <provoostenator> Ok, so just ignore fuzz/test_runner.py then?
1302023-02-07T15:38:50 <MacroFake> yeah
1312023-02-07T15:38:56 <provoostenator> It's a bit confusing, because the QA pull request template points to it.
1322023-02-07T15:39:04 <MacroFake> oh
1332023-02-07T15:39:15 <MacroFake> "pulls welcome"
1342023-02-07T15:39:27 <provoostenator> And the explanation around what merging does is a bit sparse.
1352023-02-07T15:39:54 <MacroFake> yeah, could link to libfuzzer docs or google/fuzzing docs, or so?
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1372023-02-07T15:41:44 <MacroFake> hebasto: I wonder if the cmake stuff can be split out for just the tests (fuzz, unit, bench, etc) and continue to compile bitcoind with the existing makefile for one release
1382023-02-07T15:41:56 <MacroFake> (Not sure if it makes sense or if it is even possible)
1392023-02-07T15:42:06 <provoostenator> It would be easier if the quickstart example used it.
1402023-02-07T15:42:29 <MacroFake> provoostenator: Pulls also welcome for that :)
1412023-02-07T15:43:01 <provoostenator> Yeah, but can't make those until I understand what I'm doing.
1422023-02-07T15:43:59 <hebasto> MacroFake: CMake-based and Autotools-based systems can co-exist for one release
1432023-02-07T15:44:27 <MacroFake> but you'd have to compile all (intermediate) libraries twice?
1442023-02-07T15:45:30 <hebasto> right; mind elaborating your initial question then?
1452023-02-07T15:45:34 <MacroFake> I am asking because I want to get rid of boost test. It seems really archaic with basically no nice features, and ctest might give some.
1462023-02-07T15:46:05 <MacroFake> Or what is a modern, nice, and simple unit test framwork these days?
1472023-02-07T15:47:10 <MacroFake> Even if the only new feature is a summary at the end, showing the duration of each unit test
1482023-02-07T15:49:28 <vasild> Personally, I would choose ctest over boost test for a new project and would be happy to see us switch, but I am not sure whether we use some boost-specific stuff or how much effort is it to do the switch.
1492023-02-07T15:50:23 <hebasto> for now, my branch re-uses boost (no unit tests code touched), and uses CTest as a driver
1502023-02-07T15:50:29 <real_or_random> I was looking into this for secp256k1 recently but the requirements are somewhat different. We really need something that works with pure C89 and is minimalistic. But there are a bunch of nice C(++) unit test frameworks out there, with different degrees of simplicity vs features
1512023-02-07T15:51:27 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/fe86616bb4ad...1bcabe6f2ac8
1522023-02-07T15:51:27 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master faff2ba MarcoFalke: Remove reindex special case from the progress bar label
1532023-02-07T15:51:28 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 1bcabe6 MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin-core/gui#697: Remove reindex special case from the progress ...
1542023-02-07T15:51:32 <bitcoin-git> [gui] MarcoFalke merged pull request #697: Remove reindex special case from the progress bar label (master...2301-gui-reindex-ð) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gui/pull/697
1552023-02-07T15:52:00 <real_or_random> https://github.com/Snaipe/Criterion looks awesome for example, though that one tends to be more on the side of more features
1562023-02-07T15:53:42 <real_or_random> https://nemequ.github.io/munit/#faq has a nice list but I think this is still all focused on C. I can imagine that there are much more choices if you don't need C support but only C++
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1602023-02-07T16:09:52 <fanquake> Please don't give us two build systems to maintain at the same time
1612023-02-07T16:10:32 <fanquake> The switchover is going to be bad enough, without some weird interim period of having two
1622023-02-07T16:14:36 <MacroFake> fanquake: Will it? The makefile won't have to be touched because cmake is added. So the overhead should be ~0, unless one adds a new file or removes one, which seems rare enough.
1632023-02-07T16:15:00 <MacroFake> The alternative is that the makefile is removed right away and there is no fallback for users that run into issues
1642023-02-07T16:15:34 <MacroFake> real_or_random: Thanks, will take a look at your list
1652023-02-07T16:15:49 <fanquake> MarcroFake: I'm not sure what you mean by "the makefile"
1662023-02-07T16:16:35 <fanquake> I don't see any benefit to maintaining multiple build systems. If we want to switch to cmake, we should just switch, dropping autotools entirely, after the 25.x branch off.
1672023-02-07T16:19:19 <fanquake> It's nice that we are finding more reasons to make the switch. As the current list (from the description in 25797) which is essentially of "better for the gui" and "better for windows", are incredibly weak reasons to break all downstream infra, build scripts, CI, oss-fuzz type integrations, etc etc. Especially when all those users don't care at all about Windows or the GUI.
1682023-02-07T16:20:10 <fanquake> Reasoning like, "it's faster", "a new test driver" or "improved clang-tooling integration" are the things we should really be caring about.
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1702023-02-07T16:41:08 <jonatack1> provoostenator: if you have fuzz builds and fuzzers working on ARM64 macOS Ventura, could you update the macOS section of fuzzing.md? The path looks out of date, and at first try I had issues with the fuzz build
1712023-02-07T16:42:20 <provoostenator> My Linux box is faster now :-)
1722023-02-07T16:43:25 <jonatack1> Ah ;)
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1742023-02-07T16:56:34 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #27056: doc: use arch agnostic clang path in fuzzing doc (macOS) (master...macos_fuzzing_doc_arch_agnostic) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/27056
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1762023-02-07T16:57:32 <fanquake> Builds still actually fail on arm64 macOS due to a different issue, but the doc now works for either
1772023-02-07T17:04:53 <vasild> What if the automake+cmake interim state is never released? I.e. - release 25, add cmake, interim period where people can try cmake and fall back to automake and cmake stuff gets more testing and improvements, polishing, etc, remove automake, release 26
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1812023-02-07T17:09:01 <vasild> What is the maintenance burden actually? If files are added, removed, renamed, if CXX flags are changed, then that would have to be done in both autotools and cmake. Maybe more?
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1842023-02-07T17:17:05 <fanquake> People should probably start doing their trying of Cmake before we merge it.
1852023-02-07T17:17:20 <fanquake> We're already going to have to maintain both, in some sense, because there are a number of years where the previous release branches (and thus the previous build system) are still supported, after any switchover. Prolonging that by then supporting both for some time turns a multi-year deprecation, into a many-year deprecation.
1862023-02-07T17:23:06 <fanquake> How fun is it going to be backporting changes from cmake land to autotools land ð¤
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1902023-02-07T17:31:51 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #27057: build: set boost cppflags with --enable-fuzz (master...still_set_boost_cppflags_when_enable_fuzz) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/27057
1912023-02-07T17:44:00 <fanquake> Thise also dont have to be adding/removing files type changes (more rare). Things like adding compile flags/options to work around bugs in compilers would also have to be tested and backported into both.
1922023-02-07T17:45:38 <jonatack1> fanquake: thanks for the fixes, testing
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2092023-02-07T18:59:13 <pinheadmz> i followed the build-windows.md guide in WSL in "Windows 10 Home" but had to manually install libboost-dev and libevent-dev... should those be added to the doc? Or am I maybe missing something?
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2112023-02-07T19:04:06 <jamesob> glozow instagibbs: in v3-land, package replacement is going to be evaluated on the basis package feerate (as well as other RBF criteria), right? i.e. a replacement parent with same feerate but higher aggregate feerate (when including child) will work?
2122023-02-07T19:04:18 <jamesob> *on the basis of
2132023-02-07T19:04:26 <hebasto> pinheadmz: it is supposed you are cross-compiling using mingw, so boost and libevent will be compiled as dependencies
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2152023-02-07T19:05:49 <instagibbs> jamesob, you're saying the parent is doublespent, and asking how that is evaluated?
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2172023-02-07T19:10:02 <jamesob> instagibbs: yeah. specific case is you initially broadcast the parent without an ephemeral anchor, but then decide after the fact that you want to do an EA and raise feerate via CPFP - is that workable?
2182023-02-07T19:11:01 <instagibbs> ah, situation clear. So the replacement would be considered in the package context, replacing package feerate compared against the existing parent in mempool
2192023-02-07T19:11:16 <instagibbs> as well as other rules ala bip125 rule#3
2202023-02-07T19:11:19 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/3 | Encrypt wallet · Issue #3 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
2212023-02-07T19:11:43 <jamesob> okay, so that would be workable - as long as you're clearing the original fee of the package being displaced
2222023-02-07T19:11:55 <jamesob> (+ other RBF rules)
2232023-02-07T19:12:24 <instagibbs> if you can reliably RBF you may not need EA
2242023-02-07T19:12:57 <instagibbs> anything presigned, or key access is limited for whatever reason
2252023-02-07T19:13:31 <jamesob> right, so the quiet part now said out loud of my example is if you have an unauthenticated spend that is being crafted by an attacker, can you retroactively decide to attach an EA
2262023-02-07T19:14:22 <instagibbs> sure, but if you don't have "veto power" over all inputs, the parent tx could become arbitrarily large via attacker
2272023-02-07T19:14:53 <instagibbs> (up to package limits not arbitrary)
2282023-02-07T19:15:00 <jamesob> right
2292023-02-07T19:17:59 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 opened pull request #27058: contrib: Improve verify-commits.py to work with maintainers leaving (master...improve-verify-commits) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/27058
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