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 512023-04-05T05:38:11  <btcdev> hi guys i am a software developer, i mined some btc when it was worth around 1 usd, but for some reason truecrypt software did not work, and so i lost access to the private keys of my btcs, i have some emails on my email account detailing some btc transfers that i did accidentally from the official bitcoin wallet client to some addresses by mistake
 522023-04-05T05:38:11  <btcdev> ( i am not sure if those addresses where existent at that moment ), is there some way to recover my lost btcs?
 532023-04-05T05:38:40  <btcdev> maybe by issuing a patch and sending to me a link to confirm my email address to verify that i was the one that sent the btcs to those addresses?
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 552023-04-05T05:40:55  <btcdev> btw my hd was destroyed so the access to the private keys is impossible now
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 582023-04-05T05:49:29  <btcdev> i have basic understanding of how the bitcoin network works
 592023-04-05T05:49:53  <btcdev> how long does it take to get an answer here?
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 712023-04-05T06:13:25  <btcdev> i am not sure if someone answered my question
 722023-04-05T06:14:25  <sipa> This channel is about development of the Bitcoin Core software.
 732023-04-05T06:14:46  <sipa> And without access to private keys, there is no way to recover coins.
 742023-04-05T06:15:59  <btcdev> i have the address of the wallet that i sent the coins from but i dont have the private keys
 752023-04-05T06:16:31  <btcdev> there are some btcs at that address but those are unusable as i do not have the private keys anymore, they got completely destroyed forever
 762023-04-05T06:16:59  <btcdev> i guess the number of btc can be seen with a blockchain explorer, i am not sure, i only have the address
 772023-04-05T06:17:17  <btcdev> and an email as proof that i sent btc from that address
 782023-04-05T06:17:31  <btcdev> i know this is bitcoin dev, i thought maybe you can issue a patch
 792023-04-05T06:17:51  <btcdev> to recover my btc by using my email address as proof instead of the private keys
 802023-04-05T06:18:13  <sipa> Bitcoin funds are not tied to any email address.
 812023-04-05T06:18:27  <sipa> If you want to move the coins, you need the private key, sorry.
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 832023-04-05T06:18:40  <btcdev> i know but we can change that with a patch? only for my address
 842023-04-05T06:18:44  <sipa> If you have further questions, see https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com or any number of online forums.
 852023-04-05T06:18:46  <btcdev> my address would be the only one
 862023-04-05T06:18:54  <btcdev> tied to an email on the btc chain
 872023-04-05T06:18:58  <sipa> This is off topic here.
 882023-04-05T06:19:05  <btcdev> sounds good? to issue a patch like that?
 892023-04-05T06:19:06  <btcdev> ok
 902023-04-05T06:19:32  <btcdev> to discuss that patch is the bitcoin.stackexchange.com then
 912023-04-05T06:19:50  <btcdev> right
 922023-04-05T06:19:54  <btcdev> ?
 932023-04-05T06:20:05  <sipa> You're free to create a patch that does whatever you want, but you'll need to convince the world to run it.
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 952023-04-05T06:20:23  <sipa> No, that site is about further questions on how Bitcoin works.
 962023-04-05T06:20:34  <btcdev> and where can i discuss this patch?
 972023-04-05T06:20:45  <sipa> Not here.
 982023-04-05T06:21:13  <btcdev> where then? is not this for bitcoin core dev? like maintenance of the gitcoin source code by issuing patchs and things like that?
 992023-04-05T06:21:26  <sipa> If you actually want to propose a protocol change to get your coins back, the procedure would be to discuss it first on the bitcoin-dev mailing list.
1002023-04-05T06:21:48  <sipa> But I don't expect you'll get very far in convincing people to adopt your fork.
1012023-04-05T06:21:53  <btcdev> ok
1022023-04-05T06:22:03  <btcdev> thanks for the info
1032023-04-05T06:23:07  <sipa> Bitcoin Core is only one implementation of the Bitcoin protocol, so this is not the place to discuss protocol changes like that. You'll need to write a proposal, and get widespread agreement from the entire community to adopt it.
1042023-04-05T06:23:34  <btcdev> i see, i thought this was the main implementation
1052023-04-05T06:25:01  <btcdev> also, by having the address from where i sent my btc from
1062023-04-05T06:25:15  <btcdev> and the probable ip
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1082023-04-05T06:25:19  <btcdev> that i used at that time
1092023-04-05T06:25:39  <btcdev> is the ip stored on the blockchain or some other record
1102023-04-05T06:25:41  <btcdev> as proof
1112023-04-05T06:25:50  <btcdev> instead of just the email address
1122023-04-05T06:25:53  <sipa> No. You need the private key.
1132023-04-05T06:26:07  <btcdev> ah ok private key completely lost
1142023-04-05T06:26:11  <btcdev> forever
1152023-04-05T06:26:28  <sipa> And please, go to stackexchange if you have further questions. This channel is for development, not user questions.
1162023-04-05T06:26:30  <btcdev> it was a truecrypt encrypted partition
1172023-04-05T06:26:42  <btcdev> then i formated the pc
1182023-04-05T06:26:58  <btcdev> as the partition became unusable
1192023-04-05T06:27:00  <btcdev> ok
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1272023-04-05T06:52:30  <btcdev> i thought its part of the development of such patch to ask if.... with the sender address that i have is enough to see in the blockchain the register that shows how many btcs i had in my wallet? the btcs that i lost the private key
1282023-04-05T06:52:53  <btcdev> technically is it like that? is possible to see how many btcs there were at that sender wallet?
1292023-04-05T06:53:16  <btcdev> i mined them with a group miner
1302023-04-05T06:53:21  <btcdev> shared pool
1312023-04-05T06:53:30  <btcdev> with the official bitcoin client i think
1322023-04-05T06:53:34  <btcdev> as wallet
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1642023-04-05T10:19:43  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ismaelsadeeq opened pull request #27422: test: add coverage to rpc_scantxoutset.py   (master...2023-04-test-coverage-rpc_scantxoutset) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/27422
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1702023-04-05T10:36:35  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/49b87bfe7e27...23a899b27c0b
1712023-04-05T10:36:35  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 54e4061 fanquake: refactor: don't avoid sys/types.h on when building for Windows
1722023-04-05T10:36:36  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 23a899b fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#26832: compat: move (win) S_* defines into bdb
1732023-04-05T10:36:40  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #26832: compat: move (win) S_* defines into bdb (master...dont_exclude_stat_win_bdb) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26832
1742023-04-05T10:37:16  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/23a899b27c0b...8c3cc4cad3c1
1752023-04-05T10:37:16  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 9fbc5fc Cory Fields: build: remove ancient unused define
1762023-04-05T10:37:17  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 8c3cc4c fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#27420: build: remove ancient unused define
1772023-04-05T10:37:27  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #27420: build: remove ancient unused define (master...remove-win-define) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/27420
1782023-04-05T10:50:42  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/8c3cc4cad3c1...27ad26de2fca
1792023-04-05T10:50:42  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 73f4eb5 John Moffett: Check that the Timestamp String is valid
1802023-04-05T10:50:42  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 27ad26d fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#27317: log: Check that the timestamp string is non-e...
1812023-04-05T10:50:47  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #27317: log: Check that the timestamp string is non-empty to avoid undefined behavior (master...2023_04_FixTimestampPotentialUB) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/27317
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1852023-04-05T11:13:29  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/27ad26de2fca...9ec30db88865
1862023-04-05T11:13:30  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa584b4 MarcoFalke: test: Remove windows workaround in authproxy
1872023-04-05T11:13:30  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 9ec30db fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#27418: test: Remove windows workaround in authproxy
1882023-04-05T11:13:35  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #27418: test: Remove windows workaround in authproxy (master...2304-test-win-no-work-) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/27418
1892023-04-05T11:29:47  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/9ec30db88865...75d807ac9af0
1902023-04-05T11:29:48  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 436df1e fanquake: depends: add NO_HARDEN option
1912023-04-05T11:29:48  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 75d807a fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#27406: depends: add `NO_HARDEN=` option
1922023-04-05T11:29:54  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #27406: depends: add `NO_HARDEN=` option (master...depends_add_HARDEN) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/27406
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1982023-04-05T11:40:59  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] josibake opened pull request #27423: ci: fix git dubious permissions error (master...josibake-git-dubious-dir-permissions) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/27423
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2142023-04-05T13:03:43  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/75d807ac9af0...04595484d971
2152023-04-05T13:03:43  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master a56c965 fanquake: ci: use clang-16 in tidy task
2162023-04-05T13:03:43  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 0459548 fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#27404: ci: use clang-16 in tidy task
2172023-04-05T13:03:49  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #27404: ci: use clang-16 in tidy task (master...clang_16_tidy_task) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/27404
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2192023-04-05T13:08:54  <btcdev> ouch i lot the chat history of yesterday where the guy here told me which mailing lists to start asking
2202023-04-05T13:08:58  <btcdev> *i lost
2212023-04-05T13:09:24  <btcdev> can someone on this channel paste me his responses from yesterday?
2222023-04-05T13:09:41  <fanquake> no. you can read the logs here: https://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/
2232023-04-05T13:09:42  <btcdev> ah wait i will check channel logs
2242023-04-05T13:09:49  <btcdev> yes thxs
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2332023-04-05T14:28:28  <jonatack2> If helpful for anyone, here are 3 places I'm aware of that provide logs of this channel:
2342023-04-05T14:28:32  <jonatack2> https://bitcoin-irc.chaincode.com/bitcoin-core-dev/
2352023-04-05T14:28:39  <jonatack2> https://www.erisian.com.au/bitcoin-core-dev/
2362023-04-05T14:29:07  <jonatack2> https://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/ (the url posted by fanquake just above)
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2702023-04-05T18:05:21  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jonatack opened pull request #27425: test: move remaining rand code from util/setup_common to util/random (master...2023-04-rand-test-util-code-separation) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/27425
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2772023-04-05T20:10:40  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] willcl-ark opened pull request #27426: Deprecate and remove BIP35 mempool p2p message (master...remove_p2p_mempool_msg) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/27426
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2982023-04-05T21:56:26  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] dimitaracev opened pull request #27427: validation: Replicate MinBIP9WarningHeight with MinBIP9WarningStartTime (master...validation-replace-min-bip9-height-to-min-bip9-start-time) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/27427
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