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292023-08-17T01:40:44 <PaperSword> Is there a standard for quality of discourse around a PR?
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432023-08-17T02:30:18 <PaperSword> #proposedmeetingtopic "PR#27260"
442023-08-17T02:30:20 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/27260 | Enhanced error messages for invalid network prefix during address parsing. by russeree · Pull Request #27260 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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702023-08-17T03:51:34 <PaperSword> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/28217 discussion seems to be getting a tad emotional
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732023-08-17T03:58:44 <jonatack> PaperSword: Yes, there can be moderation (and likely will be there)
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752023-08-17T03:59:32 <PaperSword> I am not against open discussion it's just gotten pretty emotional and these are getting sent out to everyone as notifications.
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1532023-08-17T07:59:42 <PaperSword> Does Bitcoin Core check to ensure the y component of an uncompressed public key is valid for P2MS?
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1932023-08-17T10:04:24 <PaperSword> And nope https://mempool.space/testnet/tx/f58ebcc90e1173770202dbde22521ed0e516c7c450cd92ccc99a430cbb845a54
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1952023-08-17T10:04:26 <theStack> PaperSword: txs with output scripts containing not-on-curve pubkeys are standard-valid, if that's what you're asking
1962023-08-17T10:05:08 <PaperSword> Yeah they are just tested and found out.
1972023-08-17T10:05:12 <PaperSword> Is there a reason why?
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1992023-08-17T10:11:15 <PaperSword> Wait so if the pubkeys are invalid are they prunable?
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2642023-08-17T13:45:58 <achow101> PaperSword: you can unsubscribe from the discussion if it's getting too noisy
2652023-08-17T13:47:02 <achow101> we do moderate, but only stuff that's obviously bad. if it gets really heated we'll lock it temporarily
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2682023-08-17T13:57:35 <provoostenator> At some point I'll just have to accept the Matrix bridge is not coming back...
2692023-08-17T13:57:45 <PaperSword> @achow101 Thank you! None of the content is bad per say, just IMO more 'heated' than what I am used to. None the less I am very glad that discussion is happening and have learned so much from it!
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2722023-08-17T14:00:21 <achow101> #startmeeting
2732023-08-17T14:00:26 <TheCharlatan> hi
2742023-08-17T14:00:32 <brunoerg> hi
2752023-08-17T14:00:33 <darosior> Hi
2762023-08-17T14:00:34 <gleb> hi
2772023-08-17T14:00:41 <lightlike> hi
2782023-08-17T14:00:42 <achow101> #bitcoin-core-dev Meeting: achow101 _aj_ amiti ariard aureleoules b10c BlueMatt brunoerg cfields darosior dergoegge dongcarl fanquake fjahr furszy gleb glozow hebasto instagibbs jamesob jarolrod jonatack josibake kallewoof kanzure kouloumos kvaciral laanwj LarryRuane lightlike luke-jr MacroFake Murch phantomcircuit pinheadmz promag provoostenator ryanofsky sdaftuar S3RK stickies-v sipa theStack TheCharlatan vasild
2792023-08-17T14:01:00 <furszy> hi
2802023-08-17T14:01:01 <PaperSword> hi
2812023-08-17T14:01:04 <dergoegge> hi
2822023-08-17T14:01:05 <achow101> there is one pre-proposed meeting topic this week. Any last minute topics to add to the list?
2832023-08-17T14:01:07 <_aj_> hi
2842023-08-17T14:01:19 <jamesob> hi
2852023-08-17T14:01:31 <achow101> #topic package relay updates (glozow)
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2882023-08-17T14:02:16 <cfields> hi
2892023-08-17T14:02:20 <PaperSword> #topic https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/28217#
2902023-08-17T14:03:16 <achow101> I think glozow is not here today. #28199 is still the priority pr and has a few reviews.
2912023-08-17T14:03:18 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/28199 | test: tx orphan handling by glozow · Pull Request #28199 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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2932023-08-17T14:03:23 <achow101> #topic BIP 324 updates (sipa)
2942023-08-17T14:05:07 <achow101> The last major crypto pr was merged last week, so the current priority is now #28165
2952023-08-17T14:05:09 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/28165 | net: transport abstraction by sipa · Pull Request #28165 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
2962023-08-17T14:05:20 <sipa> hi
2972023-08-17T14:06:03 <sipa> i'm currently working on 28165 and 28196 (the latter has the option to experiment with)
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3002023-08-17T14:06:51 <sipa> 28165 is i think mostly independently-useful improvements (though inspired by the needs of bip324)
3012023-08-17T14:07:03 <achow101> sipa: is #28100 something people should look at too?
3022023-08-17T14:07:05 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/28100 | crypto: more `Span ` modernization & follow-ups by sipa · Pull Request #28100 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
3032023-08-17T14:07:18 <lightlike> (28165 needs rebase after merge of #27981 a few hours ago)
3042023-08-17T14:07:20 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/27981 | Fix potential network stalling bug by sipa · Pull Request #27981 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
3052023-08-17T14:07:29 <sipa> lightlike: ah thanks, will do today
3062023-08-17T14:07:49 <sipa> achow101: possibly - i'm happy to continue with bip324 stuff without 28100 so it's not a blocker
3072023-08-17T14:07:56 <fanquake> 28100 is about done anyays after the current comments are addressed
3082023-08-17T14:08:31 <sipa> but i think it's nice, as throughout this effort lots of parts of the crypto/ codebase have been converted to use Span<std::byte> based interfaces, which work really nicely
3092023-08-17T14:08:38 <sipa> except ChaCha20 itself hasn't
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3122023-08-17T14:09:47 <achow101> #topic libbitcoinkernel updates (TheCharlatan)
3132023-08-17T14:09:54 <TheCharlatan> No updates on the priority PR #27866
3142023-08-17T14:09:56 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/27866 | blockstorage: Return on fatal flush errors by TheCharlatan · Pull Request #27866 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
3152023-08-17T14:10:02 <TheCharlatan> Been working on pruning the boost multi index headers from our header tree.
3162023-08-17T14:10:06 <TheCharlatan> So far, I have a working proof of concept. Will spend the next week polishing this to something presentable.
3172023-08-17T14:10:13 <TheCharlatan> Once that's done we can look towards wrapping up stage 1 of the project.
3182023-08-17T14:10:21 <sipa> TheCharlatan: what's the reason for that?
3192023-08-17T14:10:26 <sipa> (pruning multiindex)
3202023-08-17T14:10:56 <_aj_> what does pruning mean? limiting or removing entirely?
3212023-08-17T14:11:17 <TheCharlatan> So we can ship the library without exporting boost.
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3232023-08-17T14:11:27 <fanquake> ð
3242023-08-17T14:11:31 <TheCharlatan> It's pruning the definitions from the headers.
3252023-08-17T14:11:35 <sipa> but multi-index is headers-only, right?
3262023-08-17T14:12:01 <_aj_> so only including multi_index from cpp files, not .h files?
3272023-08-17T14:12:02 <fanquake> Yea all of our Boost usage is headers only
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3292023-08-17T14:12:14 <TheCharlatan> _aj_ yes
3302023-08-17T14:12:22 <sipa> aahh, by exporting you mean from the library's *include* files?
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3322023-08-17T14:12:29 <sipa> not the library binary
3332023-08-17T14:12:36 <TheCharlatan> yes :)
3342023-08-17T14:12:39 <sipa> that makes sense!
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3362023-08-17T14:14:06 <achow101> #topic assumeutxo updates (jamesob)
3372023-08-17T14:14:44 <achow101> looks like there's been movement on #27596
3382023-08-17T14:14:46 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/27596 | assumeutxo (2) by jamesob · Pull Request #27596 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
3392023-08-17T14:14:53 <jamesob> Still on #27596. Few people doing review (ryanofsky, fjahr) and provoostenator doing testing
3402023-08-17T14:14:55 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/27596 | assumeutxo (2) by jamesob · Pull Request #27596 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
3412023-08-17T14:15:23 <jamesob> Sjors reported a stallout after ibd completion but I'm not really understanding the logs he pasted in
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3452023-08-17T14:15:47 <achow101> i've started looking at it as well
3462023-08-17T14:16:27 <jamesob> ð
3472023-08-17T14:16:46 <achow101> #topic Ad-hoc high priority for review
3482023-08-17T14:17:13 <achow101> Anything to add or remove from https://github.com/orgs/bitcoin/projects/1/views/4
3492023-08-17T14:17:47 <provoostenator> jamesob: the shutdown stalled so I had to force quit, but it worked fine at restart.
3502023-08-17T14:18:12 <PaperSword> @jamesob I will compile and test.
3512023-08-17T14:18:30 <jamesob> provoostenator: do you think the coinscache might have been flushing? how long did you wait?
3522023-08-17T14:18:37 <jamesob> PaperSword: thanks
3532023-08-17T14:19:06 <PaperSword> you can log coinscache flushing with the USDT tacepoint script right?
3542023-08-17T14:19:46 <jamesob> yeah, though there should be a lower-tech way to do that... maybe we should log to the standard facilities if the flush duration is over some length of time
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3562023-08-17T14:20:47 <PaperSword> contrib/tracing/log_utxocache_flush.py it works incredibly well IMO
3572023-08-17T14:21:07 <PaperSword> was using it with sjors DB_CACHE issue
3582023-08-17T14:21:08 <provoostenator> james: this was a pruned node, so it would have flushed a bunch of times. I also think it was more than 24 hours after IBD finished, but not 100% sure.
3592023-08-17T14:21:57 <jamesob> provoostenator: so you triggerd a shutdown, but then the shutdown process hung? or it hung during normal operation?
3602023-08-17T14:22:30 <cfields> If we're done with ad-hoc review items, I have a quick item.
3612023-08-17T14:22:42 <achow101> #topic PR#27260 (PaperSword)
3622023-08-17T14:22:44 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/27260 | Enhanced error messages for invalid network prefix during address parsing. by russeree · Pull Request #27260 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
3632023-08-17T14:22:58 <achow101> cfields: there's a preproposed topic first
3642023-08-17T14:23:08 <cfields> ð
3652023-08-17T14:23:09 <PaperSword> I was wondering mostly about relevance of this?
3662023-08-17T14:23:57 <achow101> can you be more specific?
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3682023-08-17T14:24:59 <PaperSword> Was wondering if this is something that should be continued to be worked on mostly?
3692023-08-17T14:24:59 <PaperSword> Luke has reviewed some items in this PR, and those issues were addressed.
3702023-08-17T14:25:25 <sipa> PaperSword: that's up to whomever contributes individually
3712023-08-17T14:25:29 <PaperSword> Okay!
3722023-08-17T14:25:50 <PaperSword> That concludes my request
3732023-08-17T14:26:09 <achow101> #topic #28217 (PaperSword)
3742023-08-17T14:26:11 <sipa> the project does have a few projects that we choose to focus on, but aside from that, everyone decides for themselves where they spend time
3752023-08-17T14:26:12 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/28217 | set `DEFAULT_PERMIT_BAREMULTISIG` to false by Retropex · Pull Request #28217 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
3762023-08-17T14:26:17 <achow101> I assume this is about moderation?
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3782023-08-17T14:27:10 <PaperSword> Sort of. It's a great issue to discuss though the nuances seem to get drowned out in the more charged statements.
3792023-08-17T14:27:38 <PaperSword> One thing I didn't understand was is there a reason for not checking for a valid Y component to an uncompressed pubkey
3802023-08-17T14:27:58 <PaperSword> https://mempool.space/testnet/tx/f58ebcc90e1173770202dbde22521ed0e516c7c450cd92ccc99a430cbb845a54
3812023-08-17T14:28:07 <sipa> i don't think that's actually relevant
3822023-08-17T14:28:10 <PaperSword> Okay
3832023-08-17T14:28:11 <achow101> iirc it's kinda expensive
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3852023-08-17T14:28:45 <PaperSword> Yes, uses base blockdata only and each outpoint has to hit dust when relaying.
3862023-08-17T14:28:46 <sipa> a bit, yes
3872023-08-17T14:29:02 <sipa> but the big problem, i think, is about changing the policy is the first place
3882023-08-17T14:29:09 <PaperSword> absolutely
3892023-08-17T14:29:25 <sipa> so really the answer to why is the Y component not checked, i think, is because the Y component was not checked in the past
3902023-08-17T14:30:09 <PaperSword> It could be of interest, because by checking it during relay would not allow others to use the Y component for extra byes of arb storage.
3912023-08-17T14:30:35 <achow101> if you do want it checked, use a hybrid key? lol
3922023-08-17T14:30:51 <sipa> PaperSword: that's exactly what the controversy is about, it wouldn't change anything
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3942023-08-17T14:31:39 <provoostenator> I don't think it makes sense to use relay policy to "fight" market forces. You'll just end up with private relay networks, which in turn
3952023-08-17T14:31:43 <luke-jr> of course it would
3962023-08-17T14:31:49 <provoostenator> means worse fee estimation, and maybe even pinning issues.
3972023-08-17T14:32:01 <sipa> indeed
3982023-08-17T14:32:27 <luke-jr> provoostenator: if miners maliciously try to bypass the network, it's at least clear they are acting maliciously, rather than a passive indifference
3992023-08-17T14:32:33 <luke-jr> and that alone may be sufficient
4002023-08-17T14:32:38 <PaperSword> Okay. current implementations of stamps and these protocols seem to only use 33 bytes per outpoint
4012023-08-17T14:32:41 <sipa> i very much doubt that
4022023-08-17T14:32:59 <sipa> given that they're already convincing miners to do whatever
4032023-08-17T14:33:03 <provoostenator> Full RBF is indicator of those dynamics.
4042023-08-17T14:33:05 <luke-jr> they're not
4052023-08-17T14:33:18 <luke-jr> there's a few bad actor pools, but many are not actively going around things
4062023-08-17T14:33:25 <PaperSword> What about the fact that items in the UTXO set that have an invalid Y coordinate could never be signed for?
4072023-08-17T14:33:30 <provoostenator> Also, it's not malicious if users are settings allow bare multisig to true.
4082023-08-17T14:33:33 <luke-jr> provoostenator: full RBF is not the same thing
4092023-08-17T14:33:34 <PaperSword> Would they then be prunable?
4102023-08-17T14:34:08 <sipa> PaperSword: P2PK and k-of-n P2MS with n-k+1 invalid, i think could be pruned yes
4112023-08-17T14:34:09 <darosior> PaperSword: you may be interested in reading the discussion in https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24106. Some of the arguments from here may apply.
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4132023-08-17T14:34:40 <PaperSword> Thank you @darosior
4142023-08-17T14:34:50 <luke-jr> provoostenator: it's malicious to setup private relay networks to mine attacks on Bitcoin that the community is actively trying to mitigate
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4162023-08-17T14:35:10 <provoostenator> But it's not miners setting those up.
4172023-08-17T14:35:14 <sipa> luke-jr: you holding that opinion is irrelevant to people's behavior :)
4182023-08-17T14:35:29 <luke-jr> provoostenator: isn't that the argument being made? [10:31] <provoostenator> I don't think it makes sense to use relay policy to "fight" market forces. You'll just end up with private relay networks, which in turn
4192023-08-17T14:35:36 <sipa> (even though i largely agree, for some definition of attacks)
4202023-08-17T14:35:59 <provoostenator> All miners need to do is to not upgrade and/or manually set this setting. And then other users will get those transaction to them. Why would they not mine them
4212023-08-17T14:36:05 <luke-jr> sipa: yes, but it's not irrelevant to the big picture and sensible default policies
4222023-08-17T14:36:36 <PaperSword> Why would a P2MS or P2PK outpoint that could never be signed for be relayed IMO.
4232023-08-17T14:36:54 <vasild> hi
4242023-08-17T14:36:59 <_aj_> provoostenator: "why would they not mine them" -- because they have a long term investment in bitcoin, and they believe mining those txs is bad for that investment, same as the reason why people would want to remove the spam in the first place
4252023-08-17T14:37:06 <provoostenator> If we removed the setting entirely, maybe that changes the morality a bit.
4262023-08-17T14:37:12 <luke-jr> _aj_: +1
4272023-08-17T14:37:21 <sipa> PaperSword: why are OP_RETURNs relayed? they also can't be spent
4282023-08-17T14:37:28 <luke-jr> though in those cases, those miners can already not-mine them
4292023-08-17T14:37:38 <PaperSword> They are prunable, and pruned
4302023-08-17T14:37:52 <sipa> your question is about relayed, not about pruning :)
4312023-08-17T14:38:05 <provoostenator> _aj_ they can already choose not to mine them and leave the money on the table.
4322023-08-17T14:38:12 <PaperSword> tuche :D
4332023-08-17T14:38:22 <luke-jr> unfortunately, I have to leave early :< but hopefully my points have been made, and others can continue
4342023-08-17T14:38:45 <PaperSword> Okay then why can one do 196 bytes using p2ms using invlid pubkeys but only 80 bytes with OP_RETURN
4352023-08-17T14:38:58 <dergoegge> can we move on?
4362023-08-17T14:39:01 <PaperSword> sure
4372023-08-17T14:39:01 <sipa> PaperSword: i think this is becoming more a question for the ML
4382023-08-17T14:39:11 <PaperSword> ML sorry?
4392023-08-17T14:39:14 <sipa> mailing list
4402023-08-17T14:39:16 <sipa> bitcoin-dev
4412023-08-17T14:39:22 <PaperSword> I will submit.
4422023-08-17T14:39:29 <PaperSword> Thank you.
4432023-08-17T14:39:37 <sipa> i would encourage you to first read the ongoing discussion already :)
4442023-08-17T14:39:51 <sipa> and yes, we could prune some more unspendable outputs, but that's an implementation detail inside bitcoin core, which imho shouldn't really interact with questions about relay policy
4452023-08-17T14:40:09 <achow101> #topic cfields thing
4462023-08-17T14:40:25 <cfields> heh
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4482023-08-17T14:40:33 <cfields> Just wanted to make a quick announcement to the wider group that we now have a clang-tidy plugin merged and hooked up to c-i. This means that we can now add our own (simple) compiler rules and have them enforced. It's most immediately useful for linting, but it could also enforce constraints that aren't possible with code alone. For now we only have one simple check.
4492023-08-17T14:40:42 <cfields> I'll open a PR to expand the README so it's clear what it can and can't do (sorry, I meant to have that done by now). If anyone has any use for additional checks (besides the ones Marco has proposed), please ping me after the meeting or mention it in that PR once opened.
4502023-08-17T14:40:53 <dergoegge> ð
4512023-08-17T14:40:56 <cfields> That's all :)
4522023-08-17T14:41:07 <TheCharlatan> wootwoot
4532023-08-17T14:41:09 <sipa> cfields: can you give a quick cool example of what's possible with this?
4542023-08-17T14:41:10 <PaperSword> nice
4552023-08-17T14:41:10 <achow101> neat
4562023-08-17T14:41:42 <cfields> sipa: the initial one, for example, enforces that there's a "\n" at the end of every logprintf...
4572023-08-17T14:42:11 <fanquake> the checks that exist in LLVM: https://clang.llvm.org/extra/clang-tidy/checks/list.html
4582023-08-17T14:42:22 <fanquake> for inspo
4592023-08-17T14:42:35 <cfields> Another simple example would be enforcing some variable naming convention.
4602023-08-17T14:42:36 <fanquake> (and to ensure we don't recreate things that already exist)
4612023-08-17T14:42:39 <sipa> cfields: shouldn't we change LogPrintf to automatically add a \n in that case? (unrelated to your topic, but...)
4622023-08-17T14:42:59 <cfields> sipa: lol, that would work too :)
4632023-08-17T14:43:12 <_aj_> cfields' way has less churn?
4642023-08-17T14:43:13 <cfields> This was just an excuse for a first simple check.
4652023-08-17T14:43:35 <sipa> the reason we didn't do that, i thought, was because there were a few LogPrintf outputs that were split over multiple calls
4662023-08-17T14:43:37 <Earnestly> (For that kind of automatic transformation, coccinelle exists)
4672023-08-17T14:43:47 <sipa> but if there aren't any, let's just get rid of the requirement to have a \n
4682023-08-17T14:43:53 <lightlike> then we'd need a linting rule that enforces there aren't *two* \n at the end
4692023-08-17T14:43:56 <sipa> cfields: neat as an example still, though
4702023-08-17T14:44:05 <vasild> This is somehow related to https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/27825
4712023-08-17T14:44:29 <dergoegge> vasild: yea that can probably be closed now
4722023-08-17T14:44:41 <vasild> \o/
4732023-08-17T14:44:50 <achow101> any other topics to discuss today?
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4752023-08-17T14:45:46 <jamesob> good old /* Continued */
4762023-08-17T14:46:02 <achow101> #endmeeting
4772023-08-17T14:46:07 <vasild> sipa: people will keep adding "\n" by habit so then a rule will be needed that there is no trailing \n and that really would have to be enforced to avoid double \n in new code, or annoying review comments to remove \n
4782023-08-17T14:46:35 <sipa> vasild: i was assuming LogPrintf would just add a \n if there weren't one already
4792023-08-17T14:46:39 <sipa> ;)
4802023-08-17T14:47:07 <vasild> ;-)
4812023-08-17T14:47:36 <lightlike> would be awful if we had to change each existing LogPrintf...
4822023-08-17T14:47:48 <cfields> jamesob: fyi, those /* Continued */ are gone because clang-tidy is smarter than our python scripts. We now opt-out with // NOLINT(bitcoin-unterminated-logprintf)
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4842023-08-17T14:48:23 <vasild> wow!
4852023-08-17T14:48:28 <cfields> lightlike: actually that's something else clang-tidy could do very easily. If you can describe the change, via AST it's trivial to use it to transform the entire codebase programatically.
4862023-08-17T14:48:50 <fanquake> enhanced scripted-diff
4872023-08-17T14:49:49 <lightlike> cfields: sure, but the PR to do that would conflict with almost every other PR...
4882023-08-17T14:50:24 <cfields> fanquake: Yep, I plan on PR'ing that as well if anyone is interested. You could assert that the transform generated the expected changes. Mostly useful for huge changes like the log example above.
4892023-08-17T14:50:53 <cfields> lightlike: right, that's why realistically checking the "\n" was the simpler thing to do.
4902023-08-17T14:51:11 <Earnestly> clang-query(1) is a relatively new tool which lets you play with matchers and such
4912023-08-17T14:51:40 <vasild> cfields: Thank you!
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4932023-08-17T14:52:40 <cfields> Earnestly: yes, clang-query is essential for testing queries without recompiling every time.
4942023-08-17T14:53:13 <cfields> (You can copy/paste our query from the cpp into clang-query and it should just work. It's quite convenient)
4952023-08-17T14:53:32 <cfields> vasild: thanks for testing!
4962023-08-17T14:54:06 <vasild> I didn't test it (yet)
4972023-08-17T14:54:55 <cfields> vasild: whoops, I thought I remembered you chiming in. nm :)
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5002023-08-17T14:58:42 <cfields> sipa: here's another very simple example that's imo interesting for us: https://clang.llvm.org/extra/clang-tidy/checks/modernize/make-shared.html
5012023-08-17T14:58:59 <cfields> we could essentially use it to enforce policy in our codebase, rather than just documenting it.
5022023-08-17T14:59:34 <cfields> (in this case, the example policy is obviously to always use make_shared rather than new)
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5052023-08-17T15:00:36 <cfields> I don't mean that example is interesting, just that it very simply shows how new code policy could be introduced/enforced.
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5122023-08-17T15:13:10 <jon_atack> Hi! I think I've noticed a related subtle logging rule the new plugin could enforce or that the macro could be smarter about.
5132023-08-17T15:13:56 <jon_atack> If the string argument following the Log* call is on a separate line rather than the same line, logsourcelocations=1 doesn't work.
5142023-08-17T15:14:09 <MacroFake> cfields: I think modernize-make-shared disabled Wnarrowing, so I am not sure if there are any benefits to using it
5152023-08-17T15:14:40 <jon_atack> example separate line:
5162023-08-17T15:14:43 <jon_atack> 2023-08-17T03:35:25.306155Z [scheduler] [net_processing.cpp:5170] [operator()] [net] Protecting from eviction last remaining cjdns outbound peer=36 that relays transactions: [fc70:704d:b268:cdbf:d622:ea9f:db12:859e]:8333 (outbound-full-relay)
5172023-08-17T15:14:46 <jon_atack> and same line:
5182023-08-17T15:15:01 <jon_atack> 2023-08-17T11:56:10.285371Z [msghand] [net_processing.cpp:2801] [UpdatePeerStateForReceivedHeaders] [net] Protecting from eviction for bad or slow chain outbound peer=1154 net=i2p, peeraddr=wxtdi7pvtcd5vnnhcuwy7uffdjjeky7jjqn7mgnksnz4micqkvoa.b32.i2p:0 (outbound-full-relay)
5192023-08-17T15:15:03 <cfields> MacroFake: yeah, I didn't mean _that_ example at all. Sorry. I was just showing the _kind_ of thing we could enforce.
5202023-08-17T15:15:12 <MacroFake> ah ok
5212023-08-17T15:15:46 <jon_atack> sorry, bad paste
5222023-08-17T15:16:25 <jon_atack> but "operator()" is printed rather than the source method
5232023-08-17T15:17:40 <MacroFake> jon_atack: That shouldn't be related to a newline in the C++ source code
5242023-08-17T15:19:04 <jon_atack> MacroFake: Sorry, I may have misdiagnosed, just saw it in a change I made locally. Will look.
5252023-08-17T15:19:34 <MacroFake> I presume operator() means you are inside a lambda
5262023-08-17T15:21:36 <cfields> blah, I really shouldn't have used the log example in the meeting. It's much more than a linter heh.
5272023-08-17T15:21:36 <jon_atack> yes, inside a m_connman.ForEachNode in EvictExtraOutboundPeers
5282023-08-17T15:23:06 <MacroFake> cfields: There may be a chance we can use native C++20 instead of the bitcoin-unterminated-logprintf tidy rule
5292023-08-17T15:23:19 <MacroFake> I'll look into that once and if we have C++20
5302023-08-17T15:23:51 <sipa> wen c++20?
5312023-08-17T15:24:04 <MacroFake> Generally it seems preferable to enforce all rules at compile time in the compiler, as opposed to a separate linter executable
5322023-08-17T15:24:50 <MacroFake> sipa: I'll open a pull in two weeks, and see what everyone thinks for 27.0
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5342023-08-17T15:26:37 <cfields> sipa: anything you wish you could enforce with Span? Either in the impl or with what callers do with them?
5352023-08-17T15:28:22 <MacroFake> cfields: We'll switch to std::span, soon :)
5362023-08-17T15:28:27 <sipa> cfields: lifetimebound being actually enforced would be nice :p
5372023-08-17T15:29:23 <MacroFake> sipa: See https://discourse.llvm.org/t/rfc-lifetime-annotations-for-c/61377 ;)
5382023-08-17T15:30:07 <sipa> that looks promising
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5402023-08-17T15:33:27 <cfields> MacroFake: well presumably if there was some semantic we wanted it would apply to span as well.
5412023-08-17T15:34:31 <cfields> sipa: i didn't realize it didn't work
5422023-08-17T15:34:43 <sipa> cfields: it works, but only in fairly narrow cases, iirc
5432023-08-17T15:35:31 <cfields> ah ok
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6022023-08-17T20:43:48 <andytoshi> is nobody else having compiler errors related to https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/28168 ?
6032023-08-17T20:44:06 <andytoshi> test/script_tests.cpp: In member function âvoid script_tests::script_json_test::test_method()â:
6042023-08-17T20:44:09 <andytoshi> test/script_tests.cpp:933:44: error: invalid initialization of reference of type âconst std::string&â {aka âconst std::__cxx11::basic_string<char>&â} from expression of type âconst unsigned char [215625]â 933 | UniValue tests = read_json(json_tests::script_tests);
6052023-08-17T20:46:31 <achow101> andytoshi: make clean first
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6072023-08-17T20:47:53 <andytoshi> achow101: oh, thanks!
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6432023-08-17T22:34:06 <ne0h> i am trying to make a program that connects to the bitcoin network to collect new transactions in the mempool and new blocks in real time, but I am having trouble getting it going. My version message doesn't get a response... I suspect it's something to do with the formatting or something, but i have tried a few things and nothing has worked so far, if anybody could help me get this running it would be quite appreciated
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6452023-08-17T22:55:07 <fjahr> This channel is particularly for development of bitcoin core, an alternative implementation of the protocol is out of scope. I would recommend you post your question on bitcoin stack exchange. And fwiw, you should also check if you can achieve your goal by just using bitcoin core's zmq interface, then you won't need to think about version messages etc.
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