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2152024-07-18T14:00:33 <achow101> #startmeeting
2162024-07-18T14:00:35 <achow101> #bitcoin-core-dev Meeting: achow101 _aj_ amiti ariard aureleoules b10c BlueMatt brunoerg cfields darosior dergoegge dongcarl fanquake fjahr furszy gleb glozow hebasto instagibbs jamesob jarolrod jonatack josibake kallewoof kanzure kouloumos kvaciral laanwj LarryRuane lightlike luke-jr MacroFake Murch phantomcircuit pinheadmz promag provoostenator ryanofsky sdaftuar S3RK stickies-v sipa sr_gi theStack TheCharlatan vasild
2172024-07-18T14:00:37 <dergoegge> hi
2182024-07-18T14:00:38 <stickies-v> hi
2192024-07-18T14:00:40 <glozow> hi
2202024-07-18T14:00:41 <instagibbs> hi
2212024-07-18T14:00:43 <sdaftuar> hi (only sort of here)
2222024-07-18T14:00:51 <achow101> There are no pre-proposed meeting topics this week. Any last minute ones to add
2232024-07-18T14:00:57 <cfields> hi
2242024-07-18T14:01:02 <furszy> hi
2252024-07-18T14:01:06 <fjahr> hi
2262024-07-18T14:01:09 <tdb3> hi
2272024-07-18T14:01:09 <lightlike> Hi
2282024-07-18T14:01:20 <achow101> #topic package relay updates (glozow)
2292024-07-18T14:01:20 <pinheadmz> hi
2302024-07-18T14:01:30 <glozow> Not much new. #30111 is still the PR to review. #30295 was merged.
2312024-07-18T14:01:34 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/30111 | locks: introduce mutex for tx download, flush rejection filters once per tip change by glozow · Pull Request #30111 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
2322024-07-18T14:01:35 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/30295 | #28984 package rbf followups by instagibbs · Pull Request #30295 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
2332024-07-18T14:01:43 <brunoerg> hi
2342024-07-18T14:01:54 <maxedw> hi
2352024-07-18T14:01:55 <sipa> hi
2362024-07-18T14:02:00 <hebasto> hi
2372024-07-18T14:02:06 <achow101> #topic cluster mempool updates (sdaftuar)
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2392024-07-18T14:02:48 <sdaftuar> i don't have much -- sipa's PR 31026 is still the one to review, and i suspect it's getting close
2402024-07-18T14:02:54 <sdaftuar> er #30126
2412024-07-18T14:02:57 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/30126 | cluster mempool: cluster linearization algorithm by sipa · Pull Request #30126 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
2422024-07-18T14:03:51 <sipa> getting some review, making progress
2432024-07-18T14:03:54 <instagibbs> thanks for carving off some of those optimizations, will be easier to ack
2442024-07-18T14:03:54 <glozow> reviewing!
2452024-07-18T14:03:55 <sipa> not much to report otherwise
2462024-07-18T14:04:45 <sipa> thanks for the reviews!
2472024-07-18T14:04:57 <achow101> #topic legacy wallet removal updates (achow101)
2482024-07-18T14:05:21 <achow101> Not much activity. #30328 is the current pr to review.
2492024-07-18T14:05:23 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/30328 | wallet: Remove IsMine from migration code by achow101 · Pull Request #30328 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
2502024-07-18T14:05:54 <achow101> #topic Ad-hoc high priority for review
2512024-07-18T14:05:59 <achow101> Anything to add or remove from https://github.com/orgs/bitcoin/projects/1/views/4
2522024-07-18T14:06:02 <instagibbs> achow101 would like to bring up a couple PRs to attention, since there's been some concept drift, and I think at least one can make it into 28.0 along with 1P1C relay.
2532024-07-18T14:06:14 <instagibbs> (not sure if this is the right slot)
2542024-07-18T14:06:20 <achow101> instagibbs: go ahead
2552024-07-18T14:06:28 <instagibbs> #30352 this is a new output type called Pay To Anchor
2562024-07-18T14:06:29 <instagibbs> made standard to spend, to be used in an anchor pattern.
2572024-07-18T14:06:29 <instagibbs> This does not include the ability to make dust, which
2582024-07-18T14:06:29 <instagibbs> is now a separate feature I'm calling Ephemeral Dust.
2592024-07-18T14:06:29 <instagibbs> P2A + Ephemeral Dust = Ephemeral Anchor.
2602024-07-18T14:06:29 <instagibbs> This PR is under 40 lines of logic.
2612024-07-18T14:06:31 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/30352 | policy: Add PayToAnchor(P2A), `OP_TRUE <0x4e73>` as a standard output script for spending by instagibbs · Pull Request #30352 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
2622024-07-18T14:06:59 <instagibbs> #30239 is Ephemeral Dust, which leverages TRUC to allow dust that is spent in the same transaction package. With 1P1C relay in place, this should allow simpler smart contracts to be created.
2632024-07-18T14:07:01 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/30239 | Ephemeral Dust by instagibbs · Pull Request #30239 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
2642024-07-18T14:07:17 <instagibbs> This PR is slightly more involved, but is mostly tests.
2652024-07-18T14:07:27 <instagibbs> Focus on P2A first would be nice. Fin.
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2682024-07-18T14:08:10 <glozow> I'll also shill #30275 for 28.0
2692024-07-18T14:08:12 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/30275 | Fee Estimation: change `estimatesmartfee` default mode to `economical` by ismaelsadeeq · Pull Request #30275 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
2702024-07-18T14:08:18 <achow101> prehaps #30352 to chasing comcept ack then?
2712024-07-18T14:08:20 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/30352 | policy: Add PayToAnchor(P2A), `OP_TRUE <0x4e73>` as a standard output script for spending by instagibbs · Pull Request #30352 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
2722024-07-18T14:09:22 <instagibbs> It's got some concept ACKs(and rocket emojis), it's not a new idea, but if you like yeah
2732024-07-18T14:10:11 <Sjors[m]1> hi
2742024-07-18T14:11:01 <achow101> glozow: i'll add it to the milestone
2752024-07-18T14:11:15 <achow101> also, 28.0 feature freeze is 4 weeks
2762024-07-18T14:11:32 <achow101> Any other topics to discuss?
2772024-07-18T14:11:42 <sipa> i'd like to see #28280 make it in, and it's getting close i think
2782024-07-18T14:11:45 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/28280 | Dont empty dbcache on prune flushes: >30% faster IBD by andrewtoth · Pull Request #28280 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
2792024-07-18T14:11:51 <jonatack> hi
2802024-07-18T14:11:53 <kanzure> hi
2812024-07-18T14:12:14 <achow101> sipa: yeah, i've been looking at that too
2822024-07-18T14:14:04 <lightlike> Was also planning to review that again
2832024-07-18T14:15:01 <fjahr> Review begs #29519 and #30320 so we can get mainnet assumeutxo
2842024-07-18T14:15:04 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/29519 | p2p: For assumeutxo, download snapshot chain before background chain by mzumsande · Pull Request #29519 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
2852024-07-18T14:15:06 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/30320 | assumeutxo: Dont load a snapshot if its not in the best header chain by mzumsande · Pull Request #30320 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
2862024-07-18T14:17:35 <achow101> #endmeeting
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2882024-07-18T14:18:30 <pinheadmz> Sjors[m]1 wanna chat about abstract connman for stratum and http servers?
2892024-07-18T14:19:04 <cfields> instagibbs: re 30352 I followed a maze back to a dead link for an ephemeral anchors bip. Is there a current one?
2902024-07-18T14:19:10 <Sjors[m]1> pinheadmz: sure, that would be useful.
2912024-07-18T14:20:00 <instagibbs> cfields I killed off the BIP because it just became very implementation-specific. Would a slightly longer description of how the two PRs link together help on a gist/PR?
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2932024-07-18T14:23:38 <cfields> instagibbs: more like a very high-level description for someone who's not familiar with your policy goals but is interested in reviewing the code for sanity :)
2942024-07-18T14:24:55 <instagibbs> I'll take that as a hint to rewrite the OP. Will do.
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2982024-07-18T14:40:40 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 pushed 5 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/3679fa167f7d...efbf4e71ce8e
2992024-07-18T14:40:41 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 7f61d31 ismaelsadeeq: [refactor]: update coin selection algorithms input parameter `max_weight` ...
3002024-07-18T14:40:41 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master baab0d2 ismaelsadeeq: [doc]: update reason for deducting change output weight
3012024-07-18T14:40:41 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master b6fc504 ismaelsadeeq: [wallet]: update the data type of `change_output_size`, `change_spend_size...
3022024-07-18T14:40:42 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 merged pull request #29523: Wallet: Add `max_tx_weight` to transaction funding options (take 2) (master...02-2024-add-max-weight-to-tx-funding) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/29523
3032024-07-18T14:40:52 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] brunoerg closed pull request #30461: fuzz: add target for `CoinsResult` (master...2024-07-fuzz-coinsresult) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/30461
3042024-07-18T14:40:54 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto opened pull request #30477: depends: Amend handling flags environment variables (master...240718-deps-env) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/30477
3052024-07-18T14:41:00 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/efbf4e71ce8e...9c8b36eba658
3062024-07-18T14:41:00 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 5d25a82 Hennadii Stepanov: univalue, refactor: Convert indentation tabs to spaces
3072024-07-18T14:41:01 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 44f0878 Hennadii Stepanov: test: Fix MSVC warning C4101 "unreferenced local variable"
3082024-07-18T14:41:01 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 9c8b36e merge-script: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#30464: test, refactor: Fix MSVC warning C4101 "unref...
3092024-07-18T14:41:01 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #30464: test, refactor: Fix MSVC warning C4101 "unreferenced local variable" (master...240716-univalue) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/30464
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3112024-07-18T14:45:48 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ryanofsky pushed 4 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/9c8b36eba658...ef19a193fc66
3122024-07-18T14:45:48 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 323cfed Sjors Provoost: refactor: use CHECK_NONFATAL to avoid single-use symbol
3132024-07-18T14:45:49 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 6b4c817 Sjors Provoost: refactor: pass BlockCreateOptions to createNewBlock
3142024-07-18T14:45:49 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master c504b69 Sjors Provoost: refactor: add coinbase constraints to BlockCreateOptions
3152024-07-18T14:45:51 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ryanofsky merged pull request #30356: refactor: add coinbase constraints to BlockAssembler::Options (master...2024/06/coinbase-constraints) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/30356
3162024-07-18T14:56:29 <pinheadmz> Sjors[m]1 sorry, distracted. ok. so, seems like a big refactor of conman, and like, itd need an abstract client that can tell us if that client needs to read or write so we can compare with WaitMany
3172024-07-18T14:58:38 <Sjors[m]1> pinheadmz: what seems a big refactor? Your WIP?
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3192024-07-18T14:59:24 <Sjors[m]1> For #30332 I need something much simpler than all of connman, so I can avoid copy-pasting the socket handling stuff.
3202024-07-18T14:59:26 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/30332 | Stratum v2 connman by Sjors · Pull Request #30332 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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3232024-07-18T15:02:12 <pinheadmz> yeah just running a server without libevent. theres a loop that accepts connections, checks sockets for readiness, and sends or receives messages depending on whats ready.
3242024-07-18T15:02:29 <pinheadmz> connman does that and i copy pasted much of that into a http server as well
3252024-07-18T15:02:29 <Sjors[m]1> Indeed
3262024-07-18T15:02:49 <Sjors[m]1> Right, so we both have a shared interest in less copy-paste.
3272024-07-18T15:02:58 <Sjors[m]1> Are you just doing this for REST or also RPC?
3282024-07-18T15:03:54 <pinheadmz> both yeah
3292024-07-18T15:06:48 <pinheadmz> so yeah what i meant by refactor is pulling out of connman something generic and reusable
3302024-07-18T15:20:43 <cfields> Mmm, I probably should've asked during the meeting...
3312024-07-18T15:21:59 <cfields> I've just written up a plan for the next few weeks for cmake. (review beg starts next week, which is why I didn't bring it up this week). But I do think it makes sense to start sketching out a plan/roadmap to begin setting expectations...
3322024-07-18T15:22:27 <cfields> achow101: Would it make sense to go ahead and setup a CMake project on github?
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3442024-07-18T15:59:22 <RaphaelH> Hello, I am currently studying bitcoin core network protocol and I was wondering how the 1000 addresses in ADDR message (responding to a GETADDR) were chosen among the new/tried tables. I have looked at the codebase but I don't really understand where this is done nor have I found documentation/a wiki. Does anyone have helping ressources please?
3452024-07-18T16:01:10 <lightlike> RaphaelH: They are chosen randomly, we don't care about maintaining some specific new/tried ratio at all.
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3472024-07-18T16:04:36 <sipa> RaphaelH: the code is in https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/src/addrman.cpp#L806
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3512024-07-18T16:08:09 <lightlike> since nodes often have more new entries than tried ones (especially when they haven't been running for months), this can result in pretty low-quality getaddr responses, so there have been ideas to change that. On the other hand, we wouldn't want to reveal our tried table to other peers due to eclipse attacks, so it's not completely trivial.
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3532024-07-18T16:08:28 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] glozow pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/ef19a193fc66...20ccb30b7af1
3542024-07-18T16:08:28 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master faed5d3 MarcoFalke: test: Non-Shy version sender
3552024-07-18T16:08:29 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 20ccb30 glozow: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#30453: test: Non-Shy version sender
3562024-07-18T16:08:30 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] glozow merged pull request #30453: test: Non-Shy version sender (master...2407-test-ver) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/30453
3572024-07-18T16:08:49 <RaphaelH> lightlike sipa Thanks a lot for your answers. Do you also know what happen when two different clients both send a GETADDR to a client (in a short period of time), do they both get the same answer or do the "random choice" change at some point?
3582024-07-18T16:10:06 <lightlike> RaphaelH: all nodes (from a given network such as IPv4) get the same cached answer within 24h. This caching was introduced a couple years ago to prevent probing.
3592024-07-18T16:10:50 <lightlike> (in https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18991 )
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3622024-07-18T16:17:55 <RaphaelH> lightlike Ok thanks a lot, I'm starting to understand. Also, I'm not sure I understand the "from a given network" part, is it possible to get two differents results depending if the nodes are in the IPv4/IPv6 network? I thought the address were always sent in IPv6 format
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3752024-07-18T16:44:56 <lightlike> RaphaelH: it means that you send a peer connected to you via tor a different cached addr message than another peer connected to you via IPv4. That makes it harder for others to fingerprint you (connecting your tor with your ipv4 identity).
3762024-07-18T16:48:06 <achow101> cfields: sure
3772024-07-18T16:50:42 <achow101> https://github.com/orgs/bitcoin/projects/13
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3822024-07-18T17:55:13 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] mzumsande opened pull request #30479: validation: Add eligible ancestors of reconsidered block to setBlockIndexCandidates (master...202407_fix_resetfailure) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/30479
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3972024-07-18T19:14:45 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Psc544 opened pull request #30480: 6fe04302f75958ca1ad398e637e9e44c680d3a2eCreate devcontainer.json (master...patch-1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/30480
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3992024-07-18T19:16:01 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake closed pull request #30480: 6fe04302f75958ca1ad398e637e9e44c680d3a2eCreate devcontainer.json (master...patch-1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/30480
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4062024-07-18T20:24:21 <harding> Is there an appropriate resource within the project (e.g. issue to bitcoin/bitcoin, a bitcoin-core/ repo, the bitcoin-dev mailing list) to discuss non-security-sensitive matters relating to the security@bitcoincore mailing list?
4072024-07-18T20:33:35 <achow101> harding: possibly bitcoin-core/meta? we're currently only using that for moderation related things, but in theory, it could be a general "meta topics" repo
4082024-07-18T20:34:09 <harding> achow101: that works, thanks!
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4102024-07-18T20:51:51 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/20ccb30b7af1...6144aa21d060
4112024-07-18T20:51:52 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fab54db MarcoFalke: rest: Reject negative outpoint index in getutxos parsing
4122024-07-18T20:51:53 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fac932b MarcoFalke: refactor: Use util::Split to avoid a harmless unsigned-integer-overflow
4132024-07-18T20:51:53 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 6144aa2 Ava Chow: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#30444: rest: Reject negative outpoint index early in...
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