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 282024-09-05T06:23:55  <Sjors[m]11> I'm guessing that with cmake it will be easier to have a faster local/cloud computer assist the compiler. Any suggestions on how?
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 592024-09-05T08:20:56  <fanquake> Sjors: not sure why cmake would make a difference in that regard. Sounds like you're looking for something list distcc, which also worked fine with autotools
 602024-09-05T08:23:38  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/93e48240bfdc...f794a0d5f404
 612024-09-05T08:23:39  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master e5f7272 marcofleon: doc: fix assumeutxo design doc link
 622024-09-05T08:23:39  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master f794a0d merge-script: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#30819: doc: fix assumeutxo design doc link
 632024-09-05T08:23:40  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #30819: doc: fix assumeutxo design doc link (master...2024/09/fix-assumeutxo-doc) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/30819
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 652024-09-05T08:31:46  <Sjors[m]11> fanquake: because I need it cross-compile on linux for macOS.
 662024-09-05T08:31:58  <Sjors[m]11> Ok, still distcc, I'll look into that again.
 672024-09-05T08:32:51  <fanquake> nothing has changed with CMake in that regard
 682024-09-05T08:33:34  <fanquake> If anything, #21778 would have simplified it somewhat, now that we are using more native/just LLVM tooling
 692024-09-05T08:33:37  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/21778 | build: LLD based macOS toolchain by fanquake · Pull Request #21778 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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 812024-09-05T09:36:45  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #30743: depends: build libevent with `-D_GNU_SOURCE` (master...libevent_non_gnu_c) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/30743
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 902024-09-05T10:22:34  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fe2003a Hennadii Stepanov: build: Add `COMMAND_ERROR_IS_FATAL` to every process in coverage scrips
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1182024-09-05T12:46:30  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/fa05ee0517d5...6852d1d487a7
1192024-09-05T12:46:31  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fac9736 MarcoFalke: test: Use string_view for json_tests
1202024-09-05T12:46:31  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master faecca9 MarcoFalke: test: Use span for raw data
1212024-09-05T12:46:32  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 6852d1d merge-script: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#30796: test: Use std::span and std::string_view for ...
1222024-09-05T12:46:35  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #30796: test: Use std::span and std::string_view for raw data (master...2409-raw-data) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/30796
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1292024-09-05T13:24:17  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #30821: build: work around issue with Boost = 1.80 and Clang = 18 (master...boost_174_clang_18) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/30821
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1322024-09-05T13:29:08  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/6852d1d487a7...d6a1b94ffdd8
1332024-09-05T13:29:08  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 7346b01 Sebastian Falbesoner: qt, build: remove unneeded `Q_IMPORT_PLUGIN` macro calls
1342024-09-05T13:29:08  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master d6a1b94 Hennadii Stepanov: Merge bitcoin-core/gui#834: qt, build: remove unneeded `Q_IMPORT_PLUGIN` m...
1352024-09-05T13:29:11  <bitcoin-git> [gui] hebasto merged pull request #834: qt, build: remove unneeded `Q_IMPORT_PLUGIN` macro calls (master...202409-gui-remove-unneeded-q_import_plugin) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gui/pull/834
1362024-09-05T13:29:53  <glozow> question: why is `DBUILD_BENCH` false by default?
1372024-09-05T13:31:29  <hebasto> glozow: it was a rough consensus that running benchmarks is not a part for everyday routine for the majority of developers
1382024-09-05T13:32:03  <glozow> hebasto: I see, I suppose that is true!
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1432024-09-05T13:33:02  <hebasto> the same reasoning was behind disabling `BUILD_GUI` by default :)
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1452024-09-05T13:33:26  <glozow> makes sense :)
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1482024-09-05T13:53:55  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa3a7eb MarcoFalke: lint: Check for release note snippets in the wrong folder
1492024-09-05T13:53:55  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master d661e2b merge-script: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#30812: lint: Check for release note snippets in the ...
1502024-09-05T13:53:57  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #30812: lint: Check for release note snippets in the wrong folder (master...2409-lint-rel-notes) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/30812
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1522024-09-05T13:55:52  <achow101> the benchmarks were part of make check though
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1542024-09-05T13:56:16  <furszy> would love to see a "build-everything-was-build-on-autotools-by-default" flag on cmake :p
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1562024-09-05T13:57:17  <hebasto> ctest runs `bench_bitcoin -sanity-check -priority-level=high` if they are compiled
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1582024-09-05T13:57:59  <hebasto> re "would love to see a "build-everything-was-build-on-autotools-by-default" flag on cmake" -- `CMakeUserPresets.json` may help
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1602024-09-05T14:00:00  <furszy> k, will check it. Do we have it written in the productivity notes or somewhere in the repo?
1612024-09-05T14:00:23  <hebasto> I don't think so
1622024-09-05T14:00:25  <achow101> #startmeeting
1632024-09-05T14:00:35  <achow101> #bitcoin-core-dev Meeting: achow101 _aj_ amiti ariard aureleoules b10c BlueMatt brunoerg cfields darosior dergoegge dongcarl fanquake fjahr furszy gleb glozow hebasto instagibbs jamesob jarolrod jonatack josibake kallewoof kanzure kouloumos kvaciral laanwj LarryRuane lightlike luke-jr MacroFake Murch phantomcircuit pinheadmz promag provoostenator ryanofsky sdaftuar S3RK stickies-v sipa sr_gi theStack TheCharlatan vasild
1642024-09-05T14:00:40  <hebasto> hi
1652024-09-05T14:00:41  <furszy> hi
1662024-09-05T14:00:47  <stickies-v> hi
1672024-09-05T14:00:47  <vasild> hi
1682024-09-05T14:00:47  <lightlike> hi
1692024-09-05T14:00:49  <achow101> There are no pre-proposed meeting topics this week. Any last minute ones to add?
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1722024-09-05T14:01:11  <fjahr> hi
1732024-09-05T14:01:13  <dzxzg> hi
1742024-09-05T14:01:40  <kanzure> hi
1752024-09-05T14:01:46  <achow101> #topic Ad-hoc high priority for review
1762024-09-05T14:01:53  <achow101> Anything to add or remove from https://github.com/orgs/bitcoin/projects/1/views/4
1772024-09-05T14:02:25  <furszy> #30807 for v28
1782024-09-05T14:02:26  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/30807 | Fix peers abruptly disconnecting from AssumeUTXO nodes during IBD by furszy · Pull Request #30807 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
1792024-09-05T14:02:46  <tdb3> hi
1802024-09-05T14:02:46  <sipa> hi
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1822024-09-05T14:03:05  <willcl-ark> Hi
1832024-09-05T14:03:17  <josie> hi
1842024-09-05T14:03:23  <achow101> furszy: milestoned
1852024-09-05T14:03:29  <furszy> thx
1862024-09-05T14:04:06  <achow101> #topic 28.0 release priorities
1872024-09-05T14:04:11  <achow101> Anything else to add to the milestone?
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1892024-09-05T14:04:45  <achow101> #30762 is the current backports pr. i would like to tag rc2 tomorrow
1902024-09-05T14:04:47  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/30762 | [28.x] rc backports by fanquake · Pull Request #30762 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
1912024-09-05T14:05:08  <fanquake> so i guess we are doing at least an rc3 then? unless 30807 is being rushed in
1922024-09-05T14:05:54  <achow101> fanquake: haven't looked at 30807 yet and will make a determination after the meeting
1932024-09-05T14:06:44  <achow101> has the boost and clang incompatibiliy been resolved yet?
1942024-09-05T14:06:59  <fanquake> potential fix is in #30821
1952024-09-05T14:07:01  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/30821 | build: work around issue with Boost <= 1.80 and Clang >= 18 by fanquake · Pull Request #30821 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
1962024-09-05T14:07:54  <achow101> ok, maybe i'll wait for that to land first
1972024-09-05T14:08:45  <achow101> any other topics to discuss?
1982024-09-05T14:09:14  <fanquake> has anyone run into any issues testing rc1? Is the review club for testing this week?
1992024-09-05T14:09:21  <fanquake> or is that next week
2002024-09-05T14:09:30  <stickies-v> it's scheduled for sept 11th
2012024-09-05T14:09:52  <stickies-v> https://bitcoincore.reviews/v28-rc-testing
2022024-09-05T14:11:03  <achow101> so far the only issue with rc1 that i've noticed is the testnet4 consensus failure
2032024-09-05T14:11:43  <achow101> #endmeeting
2042024-09-05T14:12:05  <instagibbs> which consensus failure is that
2052024-09-05T14:12:21  <achow101> #30786
2062024-09-05T14:12:22  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/30786 | Testnet4 consensus failure due to timewarp related "softfork" · Issue #30786 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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2082024-09-05T14:14:20  <achow101> looks like the reorg happend yesterday
2092024-09-05T14:14:40  <achow101> 400 block reorg waow
2102024-09-05T14:19:15  <glozow> nice, did we pull off a uasf?
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2122024-09-05T14:20:24  <achow101> wouldn't have happened without some miners paying attention though and switching over
2132024-09-05T14:21:47  <instagibbs> I mean that's not a consensus failure, you just needed some miners to enforce the Users Will
2142024-09-05T14:21:49  <instagibbs> ?
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2162024-09-05T14:24:49  <lightlike> so re: bench/fuzz/gui compilation, is the intentioned "typical" workflow for devs to work on whatever you are working on with just the basics compiled, then compile everything (and maybe fix compilation failures), then open PR? I always thought previously bench/fuzz etc. was enabled by default not to run them but to make they sure they still compile.
2172024-09-05T14:26:27  <maflcko> lightlike: For developers it makes sense to compile as much as possible, for the reasons given by you. However, other people compiling from source (users) may not want to build some stuff by default?
2182024-09-05T14:26:34  <fanquake> lightlike: I'd think the typical flow should be for each dev to setup a cmake preset, which compiles exactly what they want/don't want, and to just work as normal
2192024-09-05T14:26:40  <sipa> i saw some earlier discussion around that, and hebasto suggested adding a preset with all dev-related things enabled?
2202024-09-05T14:27:50  <sipa> can we have such a preset be part of the project?
2212024-09-05T14:28:03  <luke-jr> I thought the current defaults were meant to be ideal for devs
2222024-09-05T14:28:17  <fanquake> that is also something we could do, which I assume would be basically + fuzz + bench
2232024-09-05T14:28:51  <hebasto> sipa: yes, we can
2242024-09-05T14:28:55  <fanquake> luke-jr: what's ideal depends on what you're working on
2252024-09-05T14:29:02  <luke-jr> IMO it would be ideal for defaults to be user-oriented
2262024-09-05T14:29:22  <sipa> luke-jr: i think the current cmake defaults are user-oriented (more so than the autotools defaults were)
2272024-09-05T14:29:39  <luke-jr> sipa: GUI disabled by default certainly isn't
2282024-09-05T14:30:06  * luke-jr wonders if make -C src bitcoind still works
2292024-09-05T14:30:22  <sipa> luke-jr: ah i was thinking in terms of artefacts, not dependencies
2302024-09-05T14:32:32  <sipa> fanquake, hebasto: i think it'd be useful to have a preset with "enable all the things" for development, which could be updated when new artefacts/features/... are added, because as a developer who creates a PR, you want to make sure you've compiled as much as possible you can locally before submitting (e.g. say the default is not to compile benchmarks, even if in the code you're currently working
2312024-09-05T14:32:38  <sipa> on you don't care (or even know about the existence of)...
2322024-09-05T14:32:41  <sipa> benchmarks, it'd be annoying if you miss that you introduced a compilation error in the benchmarks by not building it)
2332024-09-05T14:33:18  <achow101> should "all the things" also include optional dependencies?
2342024-09-05T14:33:19  <fanquake> Having a minimal set of initial default things turned on, means that everyone can do exactly what they want, by opting in to whatever they want. Having a convenience preset in the repo, for "development" seems like a good idea. Outside of that, anyone who wants to setup their own compilation to suit themselves, has the flexibility of presets to do so.
2352024-09-05T14:33:59  <hebasto> ^ I concur
2362024-09-05T14:34:27  <sipa> fanquake: right, i'm happy to create a preset for myself with whatever i care about, and i assume the same is true for most regularly contributors... but for occasional contributors, a "enable as much as possible that i might not even be aware of exists" may make sense
2372024-09-05T14:35:00  <sipa> achow101: i guess yes
2382024-09-05T14:36:15  <achow101> I think we should provide a couple different presets in repo: 1) development preset, 2) everything that goes in a release preset, 3) fuzzing preset
2392024-09-05T14:36:31  <sipa> yeah that may make sense
2402024-09-05T14:37:05  <fanquake> This is also something that we need to expand the developer / productivity notes to encompass
2412024-09-05T14:37:12  <sipa> yeah
2422024-09-05T14:37:22  <achow101> one for each of the ci configs would also be useful
2432024-09-05T14:37:55  <fanquake> we are actually having a related discussion about that in https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/30755#discussion_r1743843129
2442024-09-05T14:38:25  <fanquake> i.e, should the CI config live in presets, or in the scripts etc
2452024-09-05T14:38:44  <maflcko> achow101: That'd be difficult, becusea the CI configs really test different compiler versions and packaging/depends settings, which may not exist on the dev machine?
2462024-09-05T14:38:47  <fanquake> as we don't want subtly changing presets, to inadvertantly change things in the ci
2472024-09-05T14:39:23  <luke-jr> maflcko: we could get half of it in a preset?
2482024-09-05T14:39:34  <fanquake> althought the CI presets could exist separately under /ci etc
2492024-09-05T14:40:01  <luke-jr> even if not every issue can be reproduced with a preset, it might help sometimes
2502024-09-05T14:40:29  <maflcko> For example, the "tidy" preset would just be equal to the "compile-all" preset. However, you would get nothing similar to the tidy CI otherwise
2512024-09-05T14:40:33  <achow101> ci presets could live under /ci which makes it clear that they're intended to only work on ci, but when people are trying to reproduce locally, at least the config is easily available and they just need to hunt down the right dependnencies and versions
2522024-09-05T14:41:28  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #30822: cmake: scope Boost Test check to `vcpkg` (master...scope_boost_test_vcpkg) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/30822
2532024-09-05T14:41:55  <achow101> a lot of times though, when I'm debugging ci failures, the things i'm interested in that would be in a preset are which sanitizers are enabled, or which extra flags have been set, or was it gcc or clang that was used
2542024-09-05T14:45:47  <maflcko> You can get the flags via "git grep -W BITCOIN_CONFIG ./ci/test/00_setup_env_native_tsan.sh"
2552024-09-05T14:45:50  <maflcko> Though, seems fine to move them to another file, as they are not required to build the CI image file.
2562024-09-05T14:50:41  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #30823: cmake: add `USE_SOURCE_PERMISSIONS` to all `configure_file()` usage (master...configure_file_explicit_perms) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/30823
2572024-09-05T14:50:48  <maflcko> Personally I have a bash alias (since autotools) with similar ones for each compiler/sanitizer: "rm -rf ./bld-cmake/ && cmake -B ./bld-cmake -DAPPEND_CXXFLAGS='-std=c++23' -DCMAKE_C_COMPILER='clang' -DCMAKE_CXX_COMPILER='clang++' -DBUILD_GUI=ON -DBUILD_FUZZ_BINARY=ON -DBUILD_BENCH=ON -DWITH_ZMQ=ON -DWITH_ZMQ=ON -DBUILD_UTIL_CHAINSTATE=ON -DBUILD_KERNEL_LIB=ON && cmake --build ./bld-cmake --parallel $( nproc ) --"
2582024-09-05T14:51:26  <maflcko> Personally, even typing "cmake --build ..." is too much for me, so I'll use a bash alias either way
2592024-09-05T14:52:03  <luke-jr> I'm building in throwaway containers these days
2602024-09-05T14:52:18  <sipa> maflcko: my build/configure command lines are in bash history
2612024-09-05T14:52:37  <luke-jr> (by typing `make` :)
2622024-09-05T14:53:01  <sipa> maflcko: woah c++23, such modern
2632024-09-05T14:53:26  <maflcko> sipa: My bash history has the default limit, so I'd cycle through it in a few days
2642024-09-05T14:53:48  <sipa> maflcko: humblebrag
2652024-09-05T14:54:14  <luke-jr> I wish bash could just use a sqlite db instead of caching history in RAM
2662024-09-05T14:55:36  <maflcko> "history | grep --count git" -> 536
2672024-09-05T14:55:41  <maflcko> I guess I am using git sometimes
2682024-09-05T14:55:56  <maflcko> 536/1000
2692024-09-05T14:56:06  <luke-jr> 30528 for me, in my main worktree dir
2702024-09-05T14:56:14  <vasild> maflcko: you have -DWITH_ZMQ=ON two times
2712024-09-05T14:57:46  <maflcko> vasild: Heh, fixed.
2722024-09-05T14:59:30  <sipa> vasild: two times zero(MQ) is still zero
2732024-09-05T14:59:46  <luke-jr> (MQ)
2742024-09-05T14:59:47  <vasild> ;-D
2752024-09-05T15:00:16  <luke-jr> we need to add -D___=TOGGLE just for maflcko? :P jk
2762024-09-05T15:36:13  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #30824: cmake: decouple `FORTIFY_SOURCE` check from `Debug` build type (master...decouple_fortify_debug_mode) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/30824
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2942024-09-05T16:51:54  <jonatack> maflcko: nice bash alias! what would the flag be, por favor, to silence the leveldb warnings
2952024-09-05T16:53:11  <jonatack> leveldb deprecation warnings from [-Wdeprecated-declarations]
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2972024-09-05T16:55:58  <jonatack> luke-jr: agree it makes sense for the GUI to be included by default for the users that build from source
2982024-09-05T17:01:13  <sipa> jonatack: my understanding is that it's unusual in cmake-land to base features on auto-detection
2992024-09-05T17:06:29  <maflcko> jonatack: To disable the warning, you can just drop the C++23 option
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3012024-09-05T17:55:05  <jonatack> sipa: maflcko: ty!
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3192024-09-05T19:39:38  <pinheadmz> weird error from walletprocesspsbt using signet miner:  Specified sighash value does not match value stored in PSBT
3202024-09-05T19:39:49  <pinheadmz> im doing weird stuff here inside warnet, just need a hint why this would happen
3212024-09-05T19:40:06  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/d661e2b1b771...7f472e9bcd27
3222024-09-05T19:40:07  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master cd062d6 fanquake: build: work around issue with Boost = 18
3232024-09-05T19:40:07  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 7f472e9 Ava Chow: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#30821: build: work around issue with Boost <= 1.80 a...
3242024-09-05T19:40:10  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 merged pull request #30821: build: work around issue with Boost = 1.80 and Clang = 18 (master...boost_174_clang_18) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/30821
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3262024-09-05T19:42:14  <pinheadmz> fixed nm. carry on
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3282024-09-05T20:59:12  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] brunoerg opened pull request #30826: fuzz: reduce number of iterations in `crypto_aeadchacha20poly1305` target (master...2024-09-fuzz-crypto-iterations) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/30826
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3362024-09-05T22:29:52  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 pushed 5 commits to 28.x: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/88f0419c1ab1...fa460884406b
3372024-09-05T22:29:53  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/28.x 5577d5a Sebastian Falbesoner: test: fix `TestShell` initialization (late follow-up for #30463)
3382024-09-05T22:29:53  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/28.x 342baab MarcoFalke: test: Avoid intermittent timeout in p2p_headers_sync_with_minchainwork.py
3392024-09-05T22:29:53  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/28.x 199bb09 Jadi: test: fixing failing system_tests/run_command under some Locales
3402024-09-05T22:29:54  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 merged pull request #30762: [28.x] rc backports (28.x...28_x_backports) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/30762
3412024-09-05T22:30:51  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 opened pull request #30827: [28.x] Further backports and rc2 (28.x...rc2-backports) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/30827
3422024-09-05T22:40:23  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ismaelsadeeq opened pull request #30828: interfaces: #30697 follow ups (master...09-30697-follow-ups) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/30828
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