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22024-10-29T00:09:24 <gmaxwell> darosior: in the past-- years ago-- it was slower at validating in spite greater fetch concurrency.
32024-10-29T00:09:54 <gmaxwell> Absolutely not blocking validation on fetch is an obvious known win.
42024-10-29T00:10:47 <andrewtoth> darosior: for some concrete numbers, you can look at the PR description for #28280 which went up to block 800k in under 5 hours from a single LAN connected peer with 16384 dbcache.
52024-10-29T00:10:49 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/28280 | Dont empty dbcache on prune flushes: >30% faster IBD by andrewtoth · Pull Request #28280 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
62024-10-29T00:10:57 <andrewtoth> Now, dbcache is unlimited so can go even higher, and I have seen some benches with #30039 to block 850k in under 3 hours. We should really merge #30039 or something like it.
72024-10-29T00:10:59 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/30039 | dbwrapper: Bump LevelDB max file size to 128 MiB to avoid system slowdown from high disk cache flush rate by maciejsszmigiero · Pull Request #30039 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
82024-10-29T00:11:00 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/30039 | dbwrapper: Bump LevelDB max file size to 128 MiB to avoid system slowdown from high disk cache flush rate by maciejsszmigiero · Pull Request #30039 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
92024-10-29T00:13:12 <gmaxwell> darosior: I'm flip floppy on it being an identical security model. In the sense that if someone takes someone elses coins that's a tragidy from them but it doesn't necessarily matter to you. Vs someone inflating the coin supply. But otherwise I generally agree with your logic, and assumevalid would likely have validated less if doing so was a big performance gain.
102024-10-29T00:14:50 <gmaxwell> (and that difference could just be addressed by maintaining e.g. a total coins in the utxo set counter)
112024-10-29T00:17:23 <darosior> I mean it's not the ability to steal someone else's coins, it's the ability to steal anyone's. At this point all bets are off, nobody would be interested in a system where devs (+ majority hashrate) can just steal anyone's coins. So it does matter to you as your coins even if they don't get stolen (this time) would be worthless.
122024-10-29T00:17:54 <darosior> Interesting idea re total coins.
132024-10-29T00:18:02 <gmaxwell> darosior: Just because you're not checking however, it doesn't mean that there aren't other things that are protecting your coins.
142024-10-29T00:20:29 <gmaxwell> darosior: so for example, say as a whole bitcoin users decide to adopt a hardfork where miners can take coins but *only* take coins with some class of provably unspendable pubkeys. Your code isn't updated enough to know anything about that. But you're also not checking that. So you're potentially vulnerable but to maybe a narrower set of attack.
152024-10-29T00:20:57 <gmaxwell> so I can't buy that it's absolutely equivilent, but it's close. And probably not worth debating because there are probably cheap ways of making it even closer.
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202024-10-29T00:22:17 <gmaxwell> It't not clear to me that there is even a non-trivial theoretical performance gain from skipping the rest though, since one must still access the inputs to update the utxo set.
212024-10-29T00:22:39 <gmaxwell> but if it were perhaps it would be sensible to do so.
222024-10-29T00:22:40 <darosior> Yes for us there isn't i think.
232024-10-29T00:23:03 <darosior> For them since they don't have a utxo set there is.
242024-10-29T00:23:58 <gmaxwell> darosior: right, but that difference means the validation working set is fastly larger, it's a big performance hit. (which is why I was asking if the difference was all just from the network behavior)
252024-10-29T00:24:03 <gmaxwell> s/fastly/vastly/
262024-10-29T00:27:15 <gmaxwell> At the time bitcoin changed to the current model it was something like a 20x increase in validation speed. Though because the performance has a log(n) component, as the utxo set has grown the advantage shrinks.
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692024-10-29T11:05:22 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] TheCharlatan opened pull request #31175: rpc: Remove submitblock pre-checks (master...submitblock_prechecks) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31175
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722024-10-29T11:11:08 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hodlinator closed pull request #30956: Windows bitcoind stall debugging [NOMERGE, DRAFT] (master...30390_windows_debug) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/30956
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742024-10-29T12:11:47 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto opened pull request #31176: [POC] ci: Test cross-built Windows executables on Windows natively (master...241029-ci-win) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31176
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772024-10-29T12:21:58 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] polespinasa opened pull request #31177: rpc, cli: return "verificationprogress" of 1 when up to date (master...verificationProgress) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31177
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792024-10-29T13:19:19 <TheCharlatan> ryanofsky could libmultiprocess be added as a subtree at this point? then we'd limit the weird compilation errors people run into when installing unsupported versions of the library.
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832024-10-29T14:01:03 <fanquake> drgird: is that people with old installations? Or how do they end up with unsupported versions of libmultiprocess if they've built using depends?
842024-10-29T14:01:31 <fanquake> I'm not aware of libmultiprocess being available in any package managers or similar
852024-10-29T14:09:50 <sipa> fanquake: i assume you wanted to tag TheCharlatan?
862024-10-29T14:10:24 <fanquake> that is correct
872024-10-29T14:10:43 <TheCharlatan> damn aliases
882024-10-29T14:12:16 <TheCharlatan> not sure, but I saw chatter with mismatched versions over the last few weeks here. I'd guess it's just old installations, or not re-building depends after pulling in a change.
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982024-10-29T15:20:15 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] stickies-v closed pull request #31149: tinyformat: enforce compile-time checks for format string literals (master...2024-10/remove-string-format-overload) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31149
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1042024-10-29T15:46:13 <dviola> hebasto: hi, I just tested your branch on linux: https://github.com/hebasto/bitcoin/tree/240928-qt6 -- great work! I don't want to be pushy but is #30997 long way from being merged? I ask because Qt6 fixes a problem for me on Wayland so it would be nice to know, thanks! :-)
1052024-10-29T15:46:15 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/30997 | build: Switch to Qt 6 by hebasto · Pull Request #30997 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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1072024-10-29T15:48:07 <dviola> Qt5 bitcoin-qt has been buggy for me with wayland, see: http://0x0.st/X0Yr.png http://0x0.st/X0Ys.png -- sometimes fonts disappear after turning the monitor off/on
1082024-10-29T15:48:17 <dviola> that's with the xcb plugin, it's fine with the wayland plugin
1092024-10-29T15:48:25 <dviola> Qt6 apparently fixes those issues
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1152024-10-29T16:21:18 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/da10e0bab4a3...dc97e7f6dbad
1162024-10-29T16:21:19 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 6b8a744 Hennadii Stepanov: cmake: Add `FindZeroMQ` module
1172024-10-29T16:21:19 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 915640e Cory Fields: depends: zeromq: don't install .pc files and remove patches for them
1182024-10-29T16:21:19 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master dc97e7f merge-script: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#30903: cmake: Add `FindZeroMQ` module
1192024-10-29T16:21:23 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #30903: cmake: Add `FindZeroMQ` module (master...240914-zeromq) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/30903
1202024-10-29T16:21:28 <hebasto> dviola: some reviewers' feedback still need to be addressed
1212024-10-29T16:22:29 <dviola> hebasto: cool
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1322024-10-29T17:11:56 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ismaelsadeeq opened pull request #31179: RPC: Add reserve member function to `UniValue` and use it in `getblock` RPC (master...10-2024-add-reserve-to-univalue) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31179
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1472024-10-29T18:41:26 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 pushed 30 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/dc97e7f6dbad...7b66815b16bb
1482024-10-29T18:41:26 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 5f9004e glozow: [refactor] add TxDownloadManager wrapping TxOrphanage, TxRequestTracker, a...
1492024-10-29T18:41:27 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master f6c860e glozow: [doc] fix typo in m_lazy_recent_confirmed_transactions doc
1502024-10-29T18:41:27 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master af91834 glozow: [refactor] move ValidationInterface functions to TxDownloadManager
1512024-10-29T18:41:28 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 merged pull request #30110: refactor: TxDownloadManager + fuzzing (master...2024-05-txdownload) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/30110
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1532024-10-29T18:49:30 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 pushed 9 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/7b66815b16bb...27d12cf17f28
1542024-10-29T18:49:31 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master ac68fcc tdb3: rpc: disallow undefined verbosity in getorphantxs
1552024-10-29T18:49:31 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 7824f6b tdb3: test: check that getorphantxs is hidden
1562024-10-29T18:49:31 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 56bf302 tdb3: refactor: rename rpc_getorphantxs to rpc_orphans
1572024-10-29T18:49:32 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 merged pull request #31043: rpc: getorphantxs follow-up (master...20241006_enhance_getorphantxs) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31043
1582024-10-29T19:12:50 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/27d12cf17f28...6b73eb9a1a2c
1592024-10-29T19:12:50 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 3a4a788 TheCharlatan: init: Correct coins db cache size setting
1602024-10-29T19:12:50 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 6b73eb9 Ava Chow: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#31064: init: Correct coins db cache size setting
1612024-10-29T19:12:52 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 merged pull request #31064: init: Correct coins db cache size setting (master...patchCoinsDBCacheSizeInit) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31064
1622024-10-29T19:13:20 <pinheadmz> getting this a lot since cmake: ld: warning: ignoring duplicate libraries: '../secp256k1/src/libsecp256k1.a'
1632024-10-29T19:32:28 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 pushed 5 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/6b73eb9a1a2c...97b790e844ab
1642024-10-29T19:32:28 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master ba621ff Vasil Dimov: test: improve debug log message from P2PConnection::connection_made()
1652024-10-29T19:32:29 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master ebe42c0 Vasil Dimov: test: extend the SOCKS5 Python proxy to actually connect to a destination
1662024-10-29T19:32:29 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 22cd0e8 Vasil Dimov: test: support WTX INVs from P2PDataStore and fix a comment
1672024-10-29T19:32:31 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 merged pull request #29420: test: extend the SOCKS5 Python proxy to actually connect to a destination (master...test_connect_via_socks5_proxy) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/29420
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1702024-10-29T19:39:25 <achow101> #proposedmeetingtopic working groups logistics
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1752024-10-29T19:55:04 <bitcoin-git> [gui-qml] hebasto pushed 2 commits to main: https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gui-qml/compare/c117acc07ffa...15c1f39ddb71
1762024-10-29T19:55:05 <bitcoin-git> gui-qml/main e6a9a70 Hennadii Stepanov: ci, gha: Update `actions/checkout` actions
1772024-10-29T19:55:05 <bitcoin-git> gui-qml/main 15c1f39 Hennadii Stepanov: Merge bitcoin-core/gui-qml#429: ci, gha: Update `actions/checkout` actions
1782024-10-29T19:55:06 <bitcoin-git> [gui-qml] hebasto merged pull request #429: ci, gha: Update `actions/checkout` actions (main...241028-ci) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gui-qml/pull/429
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1812024-10-29T20:00:14 <hebasto> pinheadmz: they are mostly harmless, but a fix is welcome :)
1822024-10-29T20:01:19 <pinheadmz> ok so not just my setup ?
1832024-10-29T20:01:43 <hebasto> it happens on macos only
1842024-10-29T20:02:08 <hebasto> you can spot them in CI logs as well
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1862024-10-29T20:11:20 <jonatack> pinheadmz: yes, i see them with macos too (arm64)
1872024-10-29T20:11:44 <jonatack> ack if you fix
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1972024-10-29T21:18:01 <dviola> hebasto: just out of curiosity, do you happen to know if there is anything that could be causing the font issue with Qt5 bitcoin-qt? I noticed there are a few patches being removed/added in your branch and was wondering if those could have something to do with it
1982024-10-29T21:18:21 <dviola> bitcoin-qt is the only thing causing this issue on wayland for me
1992024-10-29T21:19:15 <hebasto> I'm not sure, tbh
2002024-10-29T21:19:56 <dviola> np, thanks
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