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102025-01-09T02:05:46 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] adlai opened pull request #31621: doc: Update dependency installation for Debian/Ubuntu (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31621
112025-01-09T02:09:04 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 opened pull request #31622: psbt: add non-default sighash types to PSBTs and unify sighash type match checking (master...psbt-sighashes) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31622
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232025-01-09T04:58:51 <WizJin> i need help regarding recovering an old wallet
242025-01-09T04:58:56 <WizJin> anyone can help me
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382025-01-09T06:44:25 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] luke-jr opened pull request #31623: tracing: Rename the `MIN` macro to `_TRACEPOINT_TEST_MIN` in log_raw_p2p_msgs (master...tracing_MIN_macro_rename) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31623
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792025-01-09T11:04:49 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Sjors closed pull request #27433: getblocktemplate improvements for segwit and sigops (master...2023/04/gbt) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/27433
802025-01-09T11:08:24 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Sjors opened pull request #31624: doc: warn that CheckBlock() underestimates sigops (master...2025/01/doc-sigops) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31624
812025-01-09T11:16:41 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Sjors opened pull request #31625: miner: always treat SegWit as active (master...2025/01/gbt-segwit-active) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31625
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912025-01-09T12:22:46 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto opened pull request #31626: depends: Use base system's `sha256sum` utility (master...250109-sha256sum) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31626
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1042025-01-09T13:42:25 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto opened pull request #31627: depends: Fix spacing issue (master...250109-gen_id) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31627
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1072025-01-09T14:00:12 <achow101> #startmeeting
1082025-01-09T14:00:12 <core-meetbot> achow101: Meeting started at 2025-01-09T14:00+0000
1092025-01-09T14:00:13 <core-meetbot> achow101: Current chairs: achow101
1102025-01-09T14:00:14 <core-meetbot> achow101: Useful commands: #action #info #idea #link #topic #motion #vote #close #endmeeting
1112025-01-09T14:00:15 <core-meetbot> achow101: See also: https://hcoop-meetbot.readthedocs.io/en/stable/
1122025-01-09T14:00:16 <core-meetbot> achow101: Participants should now identify themselves with '#here' or with an alias like '#here FirstLast'
1132025-01-09T14:00:20 <achow101> #bitcoin-core-dev Meeting: abubakarsadiq achow101 _aj_ ajonas b10c brunoerg cfields darosior dergoegge fanquake fjahr furszy gleb glozow hebasto instagibbs jarolrod jonatack josibake kanzure laanwj LarryRuane lightlike luke-jr maflcko marcofleon maxedw Murch pinheadmz provoostenator ryanofsky sdaftuar S3RK stickies-v sipa sr_gi tdb3 theStack TheCharlatan vasild willcl-ark
1142025-01-09T14:00:20 <core-meetbot> achow101: Unknown command: #bitcoin
1152025-01-09T14:00:21 <willcl-ark> Hi
1162025-01-09T14:00:24 <maxedw> hi
1172025-01-09T14:00:25 <brunoerg> hi
1182025-01-09T14:00:27 <abubakarsadiq> hi
1192025-01-09T14:00:28 <pinheadmz> "#here"
1202025-01-09T14:00:30 <stickies-v> hi
1212025-01-09T14:00:32 <pinheadmz> FirstLast
1222025-01-09T14:00:37 <hebasto> hi
1232025-01-09T14:00:37 <achow101> lol
1242025-01-09T14:00:42 <kanzure> hi
1252025-01-09T14:00:43 <tdb3> hi
1262025-01-09T14:00:45 <glozow> hi
1272025-01-09T14:00:45 <darosior> hi
1282025-01-09T14:00:47 <TheCharlatan> hi
1292025-01-09T14:01:05 <Chris_Stewart_5> hi
1302025-01-09T14:01:06 <achow101> There is one preproposed meeting topic this week. Any last minute ones to add?
1312025-01-09T14:01:09 <glozow> #here FirstLast
1322025-01-09T14:01:11 <cfields> hi
1332025-01-09T14:01:46 <jonatack> hola
1342025-01-09T14:02:09 <achow101> #topic Kernel WG Update (TheCharlatan)
1352025-01-09T14:02:24 <TheCharlatan> nothing new this week
1362025-01-09T14:02:32 <b10c> hi
1372025-01-09T14:02:34 <sr_gi[m]> Hi
1382025-01-09T14:02:43 <achow101> #topic Erlay WG Update (sr_gi, gleb, marcofleon)
1392025-01-09T14:03:07 <sr_gi[m]> I continued with simulations this week, working to address the most relevant outstanding question so far: what is a reasonable proportion of inbounds/outbounds for fanout.
1402025-01-09T14:03:16 <sr_gi[m]> Iâm still working on this question, but preliminary results seem to show that this is indeed a tradeoff between bandwidth and latency, so the parameters (and bandwidth savings) may depend on what is a reasonable propagation time for a transaction.
1412025-01-09T14:04:09 <sr_gi[m]> I hopping to have some conclusions by next meeting, if not the next one (so 2 weeks TM)
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1432025-01-09T14:06:00 <sr_gi[m]> That's it for me
1442025-01-09T14:06:27 <achow101> #topic MuSig2 WG Update (achow101)
1452025-01-09T14:06:36 <achow101> There's been some testing of the PR with other implementations, and one of these testers discovered a more general issue with sighash type conflicts
1462025-01-09T14:06:43 <achow101> 've opened #31622 to fix those sighashing issues.
1472025-01-09T14:06:44 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/31622 | psbt: add non-default sighash types to PSBTs and unify sighash type match checking by achow101 · Pull Request #31622 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
1482025-01-09T14:06:54 <achow101> #31242 and #31243 are still the next prs to review. #31242 seems to be rfm.
1492025-01-09T14:06:55 <core-meetbot> achow101: Unknown command: #31242
1502025-01-09T14:06:56 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/31242 | wallet, desc spkm: Return SigningProvider only if we have the privkey by achow101 · Pull Request #31242 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
1512025-01-09T14:06:57 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/31243 | descriptor: Move filling of keys from `DescriptorImpl::MakeScripts` to `PubkeyProvider::GetPubKey` by achow101 · Pull Request #31243 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
1522025-01-09T14:06:58 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/31242 | wallet, desc spkm: Return SigningProvider only if we have the privkey by achow101 · Pull Request #31242 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
1532025-01-09T14:06:59 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/31242 | wallet, desc spkm: Return SigningProvider only if we have the privkey by achow101 · Pull Request #31242 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
1542025-01-09T14:07:18 <achow101> #topic Legacy Wallet Removal WG Update (achow101)
1552025-01-09T14:07:25 <achow101> No updates, still waiting for review on #31495
1562025-01-09T14:07:27 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/31495 | wallet: Utilize IsMine() and CanProvide() in migration to cover edge cases by achow101 · Pull Request #31495 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
1572025-01-09T14:07:35 <achow101> #topic package relay WG Update (glozow)
1582025-01-09T14:08:07 <glozow> hi! I am still working on #31397, which looks closeish
1592025-01-09T14:08:13 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/31397 | p2p: track and use all potential peers for orphan resolution by glozow · Pull Request #31397 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
1602025-01-09T14:08:42 <glozow> It looks like I could collect the currently outstanding comments into a followup, but also happy to update, so more review would be appreciated
1612025-01-09T14:09:17 <glozow> also i haven't given up on #31385 yet ð
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1632025-01-09T14:09:18 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/31385 | package validation: relax the package-not-child-with-unconfirmed-parents rule by glozow · Pull Request #31385 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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1652025-01-09T14:09:46 <glozow> I also updated the wiki doc about orphanage problems https://github.com/bitcoin-core/bitcoin-devwiki/wiki/%5BP2P%5D-known-TxOrphanage-problems
1662025-01-09T14:10:09 <glozow> It's a more comprehensive writeup of what this subproject of "package relay" is attempting to solve
1672025-01-09T14:11:02 <glozow> That's it from me. I kind of wonder if we should rename this to "Tx Orphan Resolution" instead of calling it package relay
1682025-01-09T14:11:35 <achow101> #topic moving meeting later by 3 hours (achow101)
1692025-01-09T14:12:31 <glozow> ACK, but maybe more of a problem for the people who live in europe?
1702025-01-09T14:12:35 <achow101> a couple of us are moving to the us west coast, myself included. the current meeting time there is 6 am, which is not a time that multiple people there would really be able to do, myself included.
1712025-01-09T14:12:36 <dergoegge> would prefer to keep it as is
1722025-01-09T14:12:41 <cfields> 6am doesn't do it for you? :)
1732025-01-09T14:12:55 <achow101> the current time is optimized for europe
1742025-01-09T14:13:14 <achow101> cfields: i can barely do the current 9 am lol, but it's at least possible
1752025-01-09T14:13:15 <jonatack> ACK. The last change made the meeting times more difficult for me.
1762025-01-09T14:13:24 <fanquake> thatâll be 5/6pm in London/europe, so I assume youâll just loose as many as you might gain
1772025-01-09T14:13:38 <jonatack> (When I was in Europe, I rather liked the evening meeting times, but I digress.)
1782025-01-09T14:13:39 <glozow> I remember last time we changed the time, we noted that fewer people lived on the west coast, and that's no longer the case
1792025-01-09T14:13:41 <dergoegge> we have great attendance right now, i fear we'd be giving that up
1802025-01-09T14:13:58 <fanquake> also thatâll be lunchtime for NYC?
1812025-01-09T14:14:20 <sipa> hi
1822025-01-09T14:14:26 <vasild> maybe have a poll?
1832025-01-09T14:14:34 <achow101> we can do another time poll thing like last time
1842025-01-09T14:14:40 <cfields> and I assume with +3 we'd completely lose aus/asia.
1852025-01-09T14:15:01 <sdaftuar> hi
1862025-01-09T14:15:23 <stickies-v> poll sounds like the best approach to me
1872025-01-09T14:15:34 <glozow> I propose using this: https://www.when2meet.com/?28273038-y9Yr7
1882025-01-09T14:15:56 <sipa> the domain name sounds appropriate
1892025-01-09T14:16:08 <_aj_> hi
1902025-01-09T14:16:21 <glozow> (there is no authentication but writing your name suffices imo)
1912025-01-09T14:16:28 <cfields> no auth required. I'm the glozow now.
1922025-01-09T14:16:38 <dergoegge> does that just assume a timezone? doesn't say what it is using
1932025-01-09T14:16:49 <glozow> it should tell you a timezone
1942025-01-09T14:16:49 <tdb3> glozow: are the times listed in utc?
1952025-01-09T14:16:54 <achow101> assume utc presumably?
1962025-01-09T14:17:06 <glozow> oh ð¤ I guess it doesn't. UTC yes
1972025-01-09T14:17:12 <darosior> Yeah im confused by the timezone too
1982025-01-09T14:17:19 <_aj_> yeah, +5h from now is an early state, +3h is stay-up-all-night territory
1992025-01-09T14:17:19 <jonatack> Voting would ideally take into account not only preferences but degree of preference / inconvenience.
2002025-01-09T14:17:28 <achow101> can also try https://app.rallly.co/poll/k0zyyk2uD3ug
2012025-01-09T14:17:50 <glozow> ok let's do that
2022025-01-09T14:18:13 <darosior> Looks like you set the timezone when creating the event on when2meet.com
2032025-01-09T14:18:23 <achow101> we can give until next meeting to get that filled out
2042025-01-09T14:18:29 <dergoegge> "Unauthorized"
2052025-01-09T14:18:39 <tdb3> to clarify, we're using https://app.rallly.co/poll/k0zyyk2uD3ug
2062025-01-09T14:18:40 <tdb3> ?
2072025-01-09T14:18:45 <glozow> yes, forget about the when2meet
2082025-01-09T14:19:07 <achow101> oh, real link is https://app.rallly.co/invite/k0zyyk2uD3ug
2092025-01-09T14:19:13 <achow101> the other one is admin oops
2102025-01-09T14:19:30 <cfields> ð
2112025-01-09T14:19:58 <achow101> since it looks like several people aren't here, let's wait until next week to decide based on the results of the poll
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2162025-01-09T14:20:59 <achow101> any other topics to discuss?
2172025-01-09T14:21:45 <sdaftuar> sipa and i are here now, can give a cluster mempool update
2182025-01-09T14:22:00 <achow101> #topic Cluster Mempool WG Update (sdaftuar, sipa)
2192025-01-09T14:22:59 <sdaftuar> i just have a brief update, i'm started rebasing #28676 on top of sipa's txgraph implementation. once that is complete we'll have a pretty good idea of what the finish line looks like (and this may highlight any sharp edges we want to address in sipa's implementation)
2202025-01-09T14:23:03 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/28676 | [WIP] Cluster mempool implementation by sdaftuar · Pull Request #28676 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
2212025-01-09T14:23:16 <sdaftuar> in the meantime sipa's txgraph PRs are the ones we'd like review on
2222025-01-09T14:23:55 <sipa> there are three open txggraph PRs (31363, 31444, 31553), each one building on the next
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2242025-01-09T14:24:16 <sipa> but i understand some reviewers are waiting for the full cluster mempool rebase on top of them
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2262025-01-09T14:25:15 <sipa> on the research side, we may need to replace the cluster linearization code (later, not now!) at some point, because the new algorithm looks super promising
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2282025-01-09T14:26:23 <sipa> when, and if, that happens, i don't expect txgraph to really change, except for swapping out the underlying calls
2292025-01-09T14:26:49 <sipa> that's it for me, i think
2302025-01-09T14:27:03 <achow101> any other topics to discuss?
2312025-01-09T14:27:13 <dergoegge> #21590 and #31549 look ready for merge
2322025-01-09T14:27:13 <core-meetbot> dergoegge: Unknown command: #21590
2332025-01-09T14:27:20 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/21590 | Safegcd-based modular inverses in MuHash3072 by sipa · Pull Request #21590 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
2342025-01-09T14:27:23 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/31549 | fuzz: Abort if system time is called without mock time being set by marcofleon · Pull Request #31549 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
2352025-01-09T14:27:23 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/21590 | Safegcd-based modular inverses in MuHash3072 by sipa · Pull Request #21590 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
2362025-01-09T14:27:32 <achow101> dergoegge: will look today
2372025-01-09T14:27:37 <dergoegge> thanks
2382025-01-09T14:28:23 <sipa> looks like there are some open questions on 21590 by TheCharlatan, will look
2392025-01-09T14:29:15 <achow101> #endmeeting
2402025-01-09T14:29:15 <core-meetbot> achow101: Meeting ended at 2025-01-09T14:29+0000
2412025-01-09T14:29:16 <core-meetbot> achow101: Raw log: https://achow101.com/ircmeetings/2025/bitcoin-core-dev.2025-01-09_14_00.log.json
2422025-01-09T14:29:17 <core-meetbot> achow101: Formatted log: https://achow101.com/ircmeetings/2025/bitcoin-core-dev.2025-01-09_14_00.log.html
2432025-01-09T14:29:18 <core-meetbot> achow101: Minutes: https://achow101.com/ircmeetings/2025/bitcoin-core-dev.2025-01-09_14_00.html
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2452025-01-09T14:29:51 <achow101> in case anyone cares, I had the meeting bot go through historical meetings too. everything's at https://achow101.com/ircmeetings/
2462025-01-09T14:31:15 <stickies-v> nice one, thanks achow101!
2472025-01-09T14:32:10 <jonatack> The poll begins at Wed 5 pm for me. Unclear how to vote :)
2482025-01-09T14:32:19 <achow101> jonatack: it's your local timezone
2492025-01-09T14:32:33 <achow101> it's otherwise hourly on a thursday utc
2502025-01-09T14:32:36 <_aj_> jonatack: it's the UTC midnight to midnight day i think
2512025-01-09T14:32:56 <jonatack> ok ty
2522025-01-09T14:33:29 <sipa> achow101: looks like the current meeting time is the current frontrunner, sorry ;)
2532025-01-09T14:33:33 <_aj_> sipa: i think my most recent mail's doubly-anti-cycle approach works, fwiw
2542025-01-09T14:33:43 <sipa> (maybe there is a tiny bit of selection bias here)
2552025-01-09T14:33:52 <sipa> _aj_: sorry, i need to catch up on your last... 5 mails?
2562025-01-09T14:33:57 <_aj_> sipa: :)
2572025-01-09T14:34:22 <achow101> sipa: just a bit of selection bias
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2662025-01-09T15:43:35 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] instagibbs opened pull request #31628: test: add coverage for immediate orphanage eviction case (master...2025-01-immediate-orphan-evict) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31628
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2822025-01-09T18:01:26 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] mzumsande opened pull request #31629: wallet: fix rescanning inconsistency (master...202501_rescan_bestblock) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31629
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2912025-01-09T19:03:16 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoincore.org] achow101 opened pull request #1100: Bitcoin Core 28.1 (master...rel-28.1) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/bitcoincore.org/pull/1100
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2942025-01-09T19:05:49 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 opened pull request #31630: doc: Archive 28.1 release notes (master...archive-28.1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31630
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3042025-01-09T21:19:10 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hannahz12 opened pull request #31631: upstage install (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31631
3052025-01-09T21:21:07 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] maflcko closed pull request #31631: upstage install (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31631
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3152025-01-09T23:22:40 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/66aa6a47bd8e...56725f882937
3162025-01-09T23:22:41 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 1ea7e45 Sebastian Falbesoner: test: raise explicit error if any of the needed release binaries is missing
3172025-01-09T23:22:41 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 56725f8 Ava Chow: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#31462: test: raise explicit error if any of the need...
3182025-01-09T23:22:45 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 merged pull request #31462: test: raise explicit error if any of the needed release binaries is missing (master...202412-test-skip_if_release_binaries_missing) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31462
3192025-01-09T23:33:38 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/56725f882937...0a77441158cd
3202025-01-09T23:33:39 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 589ed1a furszy: wallet: migration, avoid loading wallet after failure when it wasn't loade...
3212025-01-09T23:33:39 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 0a77441 Ava Chow: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#31451: wallet: migration, avoid loading legacy walle...
3222025-01-09T23:33:40 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 merged pull request #31451: wallet: migration, avoid loading legacy wallet after failure when BDB isn't compiled (master...2024_migration_cleanup_after_error) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31451
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3242025-01-09T23:46:19 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/0a77441158cd...54115d8de5c0
3252025-01-09T23:46:20 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fd2d96d Hennadii Stepanov: build, test: Build `db_tests.cpp` regardless of `USE_BDB`
3262025-01-09T23:46:20 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 54115d8 Ava Chow: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#31617: build, test: Build `db_tests.cpp` regardless ...
3272025-01-09T23:46:22 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 merged pull request #31617: build, test: Build `db_tests.cpp` regardless of `USE_BDB` (master...250107-db-tests) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31617