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 64 2015-12-05T02:46:51  <Genitrust> so let me get this straight... when you bitcoin-cli sendrawtransaction 'hex' ... you don't get a json response? :(
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 67 2015-12-05T02:48:49  <harding> Genitrust: could you please ask in #bitcoin ?
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 70 2015-12-05T03:02:07  <sipa> Genitrust: yes you do, it's just a JSON response that only includes one hex string :)
 71 2015-12-05T03:02:28  <sipa> Genitrust: eh, one that includes nothing
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 93 2015-12-05T04:21:02  <Genitrust> sipa well, the response is not "JSON": "Javascript Object Notation" ... it's not an object in javascript notation form :|
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 96 2015-12-05T04:26:30  <gijensen> I think bitcoin-cli returns in a human readable form. Just do an RPC call to get JSON.
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101 2015-12-05T04:32:24  <sipa> Genitrust: what gijensen says
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323 2015-12-05T15:36:51  <btcdrak> AntPool produced a v4 block, w00t
324 2015-12-05T15:37:03  <btcdrak> this means we get enforcement in 5-6 days
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326 2015-12-05T15:37:22  <morcos> With most people in HK, this is probably the wrong time to ask these arcane questions, but here we go:
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328 2015-12-05T15:37:55  <morcos> Currently LockTime = 0 is special cased to mean no locktime, #6312 changes this to make LockTime = 0 mean LockTime = 0
329 2015-12-05T15:38:29  <morcos> In addition my suggested changes to #6312 also change Sequence = MAX from special case of no locktime to LockTime=0
330 2015-12-05T15:39:05  <morcos> I think this means the genesis block coinbase wouldn't be considered final by my code (but would be by #6312) but that's never checked.
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333 2015-12-05T15:41:01  <morcos> How hard should we try to stick to the intial consensus rules?  I could change my code to have Sequence = MAX mean LockTime = -1, which would bring it back to #6312 and the genesis coinbase would be considered final again.
334 2015-12-05T15:41:53  <morcos> Is that worht fixing?  Is it worth fixing the Locktime = 0 special case in #6312 which has no effect unless some alternate chain has a genesis coinbase with non-maxed sequence?
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337 2015-12-05T15:44:07  <morcos> oh, hmm nevermind, since the failure it returns is 0, then it's actually still passing.  (both in #6312 and my proposed changes)  so i guess it's fine, just a little less clear than the original code
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339 2015-12-05T15:44:55  <morcos> sorry for the ramble
340 2015-12-05T15:44:57  <btcdrak> morcos: regarding the genesis block, isn't that why we have lines like "block.GetAncestor(std::max(block.nHeight-1, 0))->GetMedianTimePast()"
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343 2015-12-05T15:45:42  <morcos> btcdrak: yeah good point, the code is built so it should pass it, but i don't think we do since we skip most of ConnectBlock for the genesis block
344 2015-12-05T15:46:19  <morcos> i mean i don't think we ever evaluate it, but now i do think it would pass if we did
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350 2015-12-05T16:04:52  <tulip> morcos: be aware that some miners roll the coin base sequence number to create a new nonce space to search rather than tweaking the extranonce. they have effectively random values in that field.
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352 2015-12-05T16:05:37  <tulip> just as a "be aware of this" with making consensus rules in that department.
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364 2015-12-05T16:22:17  <phantomcircuit> tulip, of course they do :/
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366 2015-12-05T16:31:28  <justanotheruser> Is this not in the hardware by now?
367 2015-12-05T16:34:30  <tulip> justanotheruser: as far as I know nobody has ever put the coinbase generation completely in hardware.
368 2015-12-05T16:35:34  <justanotheruser> So you're just giving the hardware batches of hundreds of merkle roots per second and calculating it on hardware? Seems excessive
369 2015-12-05T16:36:07  <tulip> there's little point to doing so, you risk having your hardware made obsolete for no real improvement. an antminer s7 needs new midstates at 1.2kHz which is pretty slow.
370 2015-12-05T16:38:57  <tulip> some use a FPGA but I'm not sure if it is actually making work or just distributing it between ASICs. the one I have in mind is the Avalon 1 which only needs midstates at 20hz.
371 2015-12-05T16:43:42  <phantomcircuit> tulip, the avalon machines convert stratum work to chip work on the fpga
372 2015-12-05T16:43:48  <phantomcircuit> afaik that's unusual
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434 2015-12-05T19:38:13  <morcos> tulip: thanks, to be clear i'm only talking about the coinbase in the genesis block.  anyway turns out i was worried mistakenly.
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472 2015-12-05T21:42:32  <gmaxwell> 288 block window shows CLTV as >75%, activation pending soon.
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476 2015-12-05T21:52:00  <ahmed_> anyone know why bitcoind would throw this error?
477 2015-12-05T21:52:25  <ahmed_> DB_ENV->log_stat interface requires an environment configured for the logging subsystem
478 2015-12-05T21:52:25  <ahmed_> illegal flag combination specified to DB_ENV->open
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492 2015-12-05T22:19:31  <tulip> phantomcircuit: that seems worthlessly expensive, wonder why they did it. I expected it to just be an io expander.
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494 2015-12-05T22:21:44  <gmaxwell> Underpowered microcontroller, and super unoptimized old versions of cgminer made work generation look like more of a problem than it was.
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496 2015-12-05T22:22:07  <gmaxwell> If you already have the fpga for IO reasons, and already have expirence building FPGA hashing devices...
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500 2015-12-05T22:24:42  <tulip> good enough reason for me.
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507 2015-12-05T22:49:39  <gijensen> I backported pr #6589 (log bytes send/recv per command) to 0.11 if anyone's interested (wasn't sure where to mention it) https://github.com/GIJensen/bitcoin/commit/605a12c6b20ac6f4fef193051175935fade00fd2
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