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169 2015-12-07T04:22:31 <tigereye> Is something happening to testnet?
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176 2015-12-07T04:33:52 <tulip> tigereye: that's an ambiguous question.
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188 2015-12-07T04:49:01 <tigereye> sorry tulip. I just noticed a huge jump in hashrate on testnet
189 2015-12-07T04:49:06 <tigereye> no big deal
190 2015-12-07T04:51:30 <tigereye> looks like a fork at block 608825
191 2015-12-07T04:51:33 <tigereye> height*
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291 2015-12-07T07:31:06 <sturles> What is this..: 2015-12-07 07:29:58 CommitTransaction: [...]
292 2015-12-07T07:31:06 <sturles> 2015-12-07 07:29:59 AddToWallet 356f62cadf281a98af99a71539dce2b962ad236fa92c2294b522f148b87d8557 new
293 2015-12-07T07:31:10 <sturles> 2015-12-07 07:29:59 CommitTransaction(): Error: Transaction not valid
294 2015-12-07T07:31:40 <sturles> Looks like Bitcoin Core made an invalid transaction? o_O
295 2015-12-07T07:35:16 <phantomcircuit> sturles, iirc you can get that from sendrawtransaction also
296 2015-12-07T07:38:28 <sturles> I used sendmany.
297 2015-12-07T07:38:45 <sturles> 4 inputs, 9 recepients.
298 2015-12-07T07:39:40 <sturles> All the inputs look good on blockchain.info.
299 2015-12-07T07:40:16 <sturles> I wish it told me why the transaction is invalid. :-/
300 2015-12-07T07:40:46 <sturles> Reponse from bitcoin-cli is "Commit failed".
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304 2015-12-07T07:44:39 <sturles> I run a recent version from git. Tried to send again after a restart (untrimmed mempool), but same result. The new tx used the same inputs in a different order.
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306 2015-12-07T07:46:31 <sturles> Can try again, and see if it chooses other inputs. And make sure I go broke in case the old transaction somehow got broadcased and other nodes think it is valid..
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309 2015-12-07T07:48:41 <phantomcircuit> sturles, bc.i has had all kinds of insane bugs before so i wouldn't say them accepting it means anything
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311 2015-12-07T07:50:48 <phantomcircuit> sturles, which git version exactly?
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313 2015-12-07T07:51:05 <gmaxwell> "commit failed" sounds like a wallet db issue.
314 2015-12-07T07:52:06 <sturles> Hmm. But debug.log says: Error: Transaction not valid
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316 2015-12-07T07:52:35 <phantomcircuit> gmaxwell, nah it's from AcceptToMemoryPool returning false
317 2015-12-07T07:53:04 <phantomcircuit> sturles, that error message literally is wrong, it actually means AcceptToMemoryPool returned false
318 2015-12-07T07:53:12 <phantomcircuit> but there's more than one reason that can happen
319 2015-12-07T07:54:44 <sturles> I forgot how to check which version I run..
320 2015-12-07T07:54:51 <sturles> git version
321 2015-12-07T07:55:10 <sturles> It is from Nov 12.
322 2015-12-07T07:56:20 <phantomcircuit> sturles, what's the commit id?
323 2015-12-07T07:56:21 <phantomcircuit> git log
324 2015-12-07T07:56:23 <sipa> the wallet should not create invalid transactions
325 2015-12-07T07:56:42 <sipa> so this does sound like a bug
326 2015-12-07T07:57:01 <sturles> 77beab70deae8ad821cc069c1ce80fc809c89c33 + 32520bfb9e450522cc507faf30bf2eadecdf349b
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328 2015-12-07T08:00:40 <phantomcircuit> sipa, not necessarily
329 2015-12-07T08:00:55 <phantomcircuit> sturles, bitcoin.conf (scrubbed of personally identifying info of course)
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332 2015-12-07T08:02:16 <sturles> Hmm. The tx set nLockTime=387031. That's a while ago. Is that normal?
333 2015-12-07T08:04:19 <phantomcircuit> sturles, sounds like the wallet created the transaction while you were updating
334 2015-12-07T08:04:29 <phantomcircuit> and thus created a transaction with a locktime in the past
335 2015-12-07T08:04:43 <gmaxwell> which is fine.
336 2015-12-07T08:04:47 <phantomcircuit> neat but not actually interesting
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338 2015-12-07T08:05:05 <phantomcircuit> we should probably improve the error reporting then
339 2015-12-07T08:05:16 <sturles> phantomcircuit: http://0bin.net/paste/kA+iB0Srfb-iImjT#fffiRrTqKOIWlBqHJIM6PlqmDCvaoTF052IguZnpn1t
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341 2015-12-07T08:05:25 <sturles> It wasn't updating.
342 2015-12-07T08:05:52 <sturles> It has been running fine all the time, and has the last block.
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345 2015-12-07T08:06:36 <sturles> Didn't think it was a problem, just interesting.
346 2015-12-07T08:07:10 <phantomcircuit> sturles, seems unlikely
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348 2015-12-07T08:07:24 <phantomcircuit> possibly you had all the headers but had not validated the blocks?
349 2015-12-07T08:07:39 <phantomcircuit> (the wallet sets nLockTime based on the height of the best valid block)
350 2015-12-07T08:07:48 <sturles> getinfo says: "blocks": 387127,
351 2015-12-07T08:08:14 <sturles> This was 387125 last time I checked, just after sending the tx.
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353 2015-12-07T08:09:08 <gmaxwell> whats the immediately prior block acceptance in the log before the transaction?
354 2015-12-07T08:09:11 <phantomcircuit> wait
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356 2015-12-07T08:09:35 <phantomcircuit> nLockTime = 387031 would mean the tx was valid at 387127
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359 2015-12-07T08:10:00 <phantomcircuit> you hit the "random older locktime" thing
360 2015-12-07T08:10:05 <phantomcircuit> but it shouldn't matter
361 2015-12-07T08:10:25 <sturles> I can try sending it again, just to make sure I go broke if both work.. (The first and the second are mutually exclusive for using the same inputs.)
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363 2015-12-07T08:10:36 <sturles> Three lines above the failing tx is:
364 2015-12-07T08:10:37 <sturles> 2015-12-07 07:20:18 UpdateTip: new best=00000000000000000751d7d93c9bb79d58c87037abfe32c0e5fd0fe225bdbace height=387125 log2_work=83.701795 t
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366 2015-12-07T08:10:40 <sturles> x=96176842 date=2015-12-07 07:20:00 progress=1.000000 cache=146.5MiB(37563tx)
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368 2015-12-07T08:10:59 <gmaxwell> sturles: just sendrawtransaction the one that failed.
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371 2015-12-07T08:11:28 <sturles> How? I can't getrawtransaction it.
372 2015-12-07T08:11:57 <sturles> If I could, I would send it to someone for debugging.
373 2015-12-07T08:12:50 <sturles> It may be in my wallet.dat, but I won't send my wallet.dat to anyone..
374 2015-12-07T08:13:16 <phantomcircuit> sturles, try gettransaction
375 2015-12-07T08:13:21 <phantomcircuit> if it's in the wallet it'll be in there
376 2015-12-07T08:14:20 <sturles> Ah, right!
377 2015-12-07T08:14:25 <sturles> Yes, got it.
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381 2015-12-07T08:15:03 <sturles> WTF? 256: absurdly-high-fee
382 2015-12-07T08:15:29 <sturles> "fee": -0.00014160
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388 2015-12-07T08:16:07 <gmaxwell> lol
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390 2015-12-07T08:17:11 <phantomcircuit> attack of the fee estimator
391 2015-12-07T08:18:40 <sturles> Known bug?
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393 2015-12-07T08:19:13 <gmaxwell> I don't think it's a fee estimator bug.
394 2015-12-07T08:19:27 <sturles> $ bitcoin-cli estimatefee 1
395 2015-12-07T08:19:27 <sturles> 0.00443225
396 2015-12-07T08:19:35 <sturles> That is a high fee!
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399 2015-12-07T08:21:11 <gmaxwell> Whats the actual fee on the transaction in question?
400 2015-12-07T08:21:47 <sturles> 0.00014160 according to gettransaction.
401 2015-12-07T08:22:01 <sturles> Which is on the low side..
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405 2015-12-07T08:22:36 <gmaxwell> hm. Dunno how that would hit absurdly-high-fee... hm. have you changed any of the fee settings?
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407 2015-12-07T08:23:40 <sturles> confirmationtarget=4
408 2015-12-07T08:23:58 <sturles> There are no change outputs. Looks like it matched up the inputs well.
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414 2015-12-07T08:29:46 <sturles> But.. When I sum all the inputs, I get 10.29070490 BTC. The sum of all outputs is 10.2662 BTC. This means the real fee is 0.02450490 BTC. A bit much, yes.
415 2015-12-07T08:30:15 <sturles> Why does gettransaction come to 0.00014160 then?
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418 2015-12-07T08:34:29 <sturles> No ideas?
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431 2015-12-07T08:47:27 <sturles> I need to get some breakfast. There is clearly something wrong here. It seems that something calculated the fee for this transaction, and got it wrong. It decided to not add a change output. AcceptToMemoryPool then calculated the correct fee, and caught this.
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480 2015-12-07T09:33:47 <sturles> No, the fee of 0.00014160 is correct, according to https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/decodetx/
481 2015-12-07T09:34:08 <sturles> I'll try to push it somewhere else, and see if it works..
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492 2015-12-07T09:44:28 <sturles> To sum up: My transaction with a fee of 0.00014160 BTC was denied by AcceptToMemoryPool due to absurdly-high-fee.
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508 2015-12-07T09:56:43 <sturles> There was nothing wrong with the transaction. It is confirmed now.
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510 2015-12-07T10:01:22 <gmaxwell> Yea, I assume something is busted around absurdly-high-fee.
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571 2015-12-07T11:35:36 <Lightsword> some idiot is patching p2pool to bypass the version check…https://www.reddit.com/r/bitcoinxt/comments/3vrf4e/i_made_a_fork_of_latest_version_of_p2pool_with/
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622 2015-12-07T12:40:11 <Luke-Jr> Lightsword: lol
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760 2015-12-07T15:24:55 <kanzure> lightning scalability matrix table from the slides http://web.archive.org/web/20151207152438/https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CVlmXyqUwAAlYfS.jpg:large
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800 2015-12-07T16:53:24 <kanzure> chinese translation of common bitcoin terminology and jargon https://scalingbitcoin.org/chinese-terms
801 2015-12-07T16:53:29 <kanzure> harding: perhaps something like this should go on bitcoin.org somewhere
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807 2015-12-07T17:05:03 <jl2012> kanzure: the list is optimized for simultaneous interpretation. Not very ready for written translation
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809 2015-12-07T17:06:15 <kanzure> ah, i see
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812 2015-12-07T17:07:28 <jl2012> and also has been created in a rush.
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814 2015-12-07T17:08:37 <benjyz1> hello. I'm working with python-bitcoin and pybitcointools. any other similar libraries and efforts?
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816 2015-12-07T17:10:06 <kanzure> instead of python-bitcoin please consider using python-bitcoinlib
817 2015-12-07T17:10:14 <kanzure> another related effort is pycoin
818 2015-12-07T17:10:41 <benjyz1> ah right, thx. yes, I meant peter todd's python-bitcoinlib
819 2015-12-07T17:11:06 <benjyz1> I'm trying to port some or all of it to jython
820 2015-12-07T17:12:39 <benjyz1> to combine with bitcoinj. perhaps somebody is interested in that
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956 2015-12-07T21:44:16 <ginseng> exit
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969 2015-12-07T22:04:05 <gmaxwell> http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-December/011865.html
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979 2015-12-07T22:18:34 <morcos> gmaxwell: well said, and sounds good to me
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985 2015-12-07T22:26:47 <atomos> sipa, secp256k1_ge_is_valid(elem); what does it mean if an element generated by secp256k1_fe_t x; secp256k1_fe_set_b32(&x, pub+1); return secp256k1_ge_set_xo(elem, &x, pub[0] == 0x03); etc.. if (size == 33 && (pub[0] == 0x02 || pub[0] == 0x03)) {, fails secp256k1_ge_is_valid(elem);
986 2015-12-07T22:27:32 <atomos> should secp256k1_ge_is_valid, work for every valid 33 byte point on curve
987 2015-12-07T22:27:59 <sipa> yes
988 2015-12-07T22:28:14 <sipa> eh
989 2015-12-07T22:28:24 <atomos> because if I generate random private keys, then generate public key (point on curve) and export as 33 bytes, then import that public key, then it sometimes fails secp256k1_ge_is_valid
990 2015-12-07T22:28:25 <sipa> not sure exactly what you're asking
991 2015-12-07T22:28:34 <sipa> wow
992 2015-12-07T22:28:40 <sipa> that should not happen!
993 2015-12-07T22:28:46 <sipa> are you certain.
994 2015-12-07T22:28:49 <sipa> ?
995 2015-12-07T22:28:54 <atomos> yes
996 2015-12-07T22:29:02 <atomos> i am working on gocoin's port of your library
997 2015-12-07T22:29:02 <sipa> can i see the code?
998 2015-12-07T22:29:29 <atomos> and testing it vs my golang wrapper for your library and fuzzing it
999 2015-12-07T22:30:17 <sipa> oh, port, not wrapper?
1000 2015-12-07T22:30:29 <atomos> I am wrapping your library and it works
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1002 2015-12-07T22:30:51 <atomos> but i am taking his port and added extra error checking and was getting crashes for certain inputs, one second
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1004 2015-12-07T22:31:35 <atomos> gocoin does not check that private key is less than order of curve in his library and other things like that
1005 2015-12-07T22:33:43 <atomos> sipa, https://i.imgur.com/Q81SgPn.png https://i.imgur.com/EzJPTHG.png
1006 2015-12-07T22:34:47 <sipa> set_xo can fail
1007 2015-12-07T22:35:00 <atomos> ahhhh, he does not have a return value on that
1008 2015-12-07T22:35:43 <sipa> well i don't know their code!
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1010 2015-12-07T22:38:36 <atomos> sipa, https://i.imgur.com/VvBh6ln.png
1011 2015-12-07T22:39:17 <sipa> that looks like a port of very old code
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1017 2015-12-07T22:59:19 <atomos> sipa, your library works flawlessly; error does not show up, its just in his. I wonder what causes it
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