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 60 2015-12-09T01:13:57  <jtimon> you already reviewed most of #6625 as part of #6672 anyway...(like many others that don't seem to have time to re-utACK)
 61 2015-12-09T01:15:48  <jtimon> since people don't seem to have time to re-review it, I don't think it's a wise use of my time to keep rebasing it and I don't intend to do so the next time it requires rebase (someone else can do it or you'll have to wait for me to rebase on top of the last commit in 0.13.99)
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124 2015-12-09T02:59:16  <jtimon> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/1cc0e96e9cc7aa094ddee9fe5b192b3ac1a59da8#commitcomment-14864214 would people prefer a getancestor function pointer or a getSkip function pointer as an additional parameter to VerifyHader()?
125 2015-12-09T02:59:48  <jtimon> sipa: since you broke the previous encapsulation, I'm specially interested in your thoughts
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133 2015-12-09T03:16:55  <job_> anyone current on the state of coinjoin in core? is that worth throwing some work at?
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136 2015-12-09T03:23:45  <gmaxwell> job_: joinmarket has some early bitcoin core integration; though it's not very mature.
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140 2015-12-09T03:25:39  <job_> gmaxwell: by way of rpc interface, or are they running a fork?
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143 2015-12-09T03:28:06  <job_> ah: https://github.com/JoinMarket-Org/joinmarket
144 2015-12-09T03:28:11  <tulip> job_: it can use the RPC interface or centralised APIs.
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146 2015-12-09T03:29:49  <gmaxwell> jamesob: rpc.
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160 2015-12-09T03:49:43  <z0rg> hey guys, anyone still has "pool_strategies.pdf" on the harddrive? it was available here http://www.bitcoinservice.co.uk/files/111, but inactive for a while
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167 2015-12-09T03:57:05  <luke-jr_> archive.org?
168 2015-12-09T03:59:25  <luke-jr_> oh, a .. not-so-pay thing
169 2015-12-09T03:59:43  <luke-jr_> midnightmagic: you had it in 2011?
170 2015-12-09T04:01:52  <z0rg> the very first version was 1btc, but then it was 0btc. found it here: http://web.archive.org/web/20110830173809/http://www.bitcoinservice.co.uk/files/111
171 2015-12-09T04:02:37  <z0rg> but they didn't archive the pdf, so maybe if midnightmagic has something here that would make me pretty happy ;)
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200 2015-12-09T04:47:06  <midnightmagic> what?
201 2015-12-09T04:47:48  <z0rg> hey, do you still have pool_strategies.pdf from 2011? :)
202 2015-12-09T04:48:13  <midnightmagic> i have something.. lemme see
203 2015-12-09T04:48:31  <midnightmagic> z0rg: install tor-browser-bundle, I'll pull it from archives and post it on my HS
204 2015-12-09T04:49:02  <midnightmagic> this is mar 25, 2011
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206 2015-12-09T04:50:02  <z0rg> ok, ready in a minute
207 2015-12-09T04:50:31  <midnightmagic> check pm
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209 2015-12-09T04:52:43  <z0rg> thank you so much
210 2015-12-09T04:53:02  <z0rg> i got it from your HS
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270 2015-12-09T06:22:35  <ireen> good afternoon
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282 2015-12-09T06:34:36  <jtimon> how acceptable it would be to add a uint256 hashPrevBlock field in CBlockIndex for completing libconsensus?
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306 2015-12-09T07:00:53  <phantomcircuit> jtimon, er why?
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314 2015-12-09T07:10:36  <jtimon> erik from libconsensus doesn't think https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/5995/files#diff-5d284177f966cbad5a370e548271cb1dR90 with https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/5995/files#diff-87d56debcd8a29ea4041ff6aa9d483f6R11 (forget the phashBlock field there, that was a mistake) is an accetable API for libconsensus, he thinks the getter should get the hash of the previous block
315 2015-12-09T07:10:53  <jtimon> phantomcircuit: ^
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317 2015-12-09T07:12:25  <jtimon> phantomcircuit: and since he is the only person who has reviewed my API proposal (that code is outdated now a GetAncestor getter would be needed as well), I value his opinion very much
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323 2015-12-09T07:24:06  <jtimon> I'm afraid that it will be very hard to find a C API that is acceptable to both Bitcoin Core and libbitcoin simultanously, maybe we should consider a C++ API instead
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334 2015-12-09T07:42:27  <phantomcircuit> jtimon, what's the current proposed api for libconsensus?
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466 2015-12-09T11:02:07  <Ren0v0_> Hey, when was encryption added to wallets on bitcoin core?
467 2015-12-09T11:02:20  <sipa> 0.4 iirc
468 2015-12-09T11:02:51  <Ren0v0_> When was that like 2010?
469 2015-12-09T11:03:01  <Ren0v0_> I thought it was later
470 2015-12-09T11:03:36  <Ren0v0_> I'm sure I rememeber it being added like 2011
471 2015-12-09T11:03:57  <Ren0v0_> But maybe that was to the GUI?
472 2015-12-09T11:04:26  <sipa> sep 2011
473 2015-12-09T11:04:35  <sipa> the qt gui is from 0.11
474 2015-12-09T11:04:38  <sipa> eh
475 2015-12-09T11:04:41  <sipa> is from 0.5
476 2015-12-09T11:05:23  <Ren0v0_> Ok, so this guy is a liar :) http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/dec/09/bitcoin-forgotten-currency-norway-oslo-home
477 2015-12-09T11:05:39  <Ren0v0_> Apparently he remembered his password luckily, that he set in 2009 lol
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485 2015-12-09T11:12:50  <Luke-Jr> Ren0v0_: #bitcoin please
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497 2015-12-09T11:41:52  <Ren0v0_> Luke-jr no
498 2015-12-09T11:41:56  <Ren0v0_> It was a dev qus
499 2015-12-09T11:42:17  <Luke-Jr> #bitcoin-dev is for development discussion, not "ask devs a question"
500 2015-12-09T11:42:24  <Ren0v0_> Question, I was asking about release version of certain implementation, thanks though
501 2015-12-09T11:43:03  <Ren0v0_> Thanks sipa
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580 2015-12-09T14:21:48  <ploopkazoo> what is the "id" parameter in the RPC for? is it supposed to be like a user agent?
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586 2015-12-09T14:36:20  <phantomcircuit> ploopkazoo, no? there's a json rpc spec, you should read it :)
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588 2015-12-09T14:36:39  <phantomcircuit> even just the wikipedia page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JSON-RPC
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594 2015-12-09T14:44:04  <ploopkazoo> phantomcircuit: that was my original assumption, but why would that be necessary if it uses http? if two requests are made, is there some chance of the server accidentally sending request 1 the response to request 2?
595 2015-12-09T14:44:44  <phantomcircuit> ploopkazoo, json-rpc can work over any medium
596 2015-12-09T14:44:49  <phantomcircuit> including udp
597 2015-12-09T14:44:53  <phantomcircuit> thus id
598 2015-12-09T14:44:57  <ploopkazoo> ah
599 2015-12-09T14:45:23  <phantomcircuit> we dont support that, but maybe we should (although the way people use rpc maybe making it less reliable is a bad idea :P )
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617 2015-12-09T15:19:08  <jamesob> is MarcoFalke on here? I'd like to sync up about testing
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623 2015-12-09T15:23:50  <jonasschnelli> jamesob: he's probably in #bitcoin-core-dev
624 2015-12-09T15:24:13  <jamesob> thanks, jonasschnelli
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629 2015-12-09T15:29:16  <jamesob> jonasschnelli: no dice. do you think it would be worthwhile to create a tracking ticket for getting all RPC commands covered?
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633 2015-12-09T15:29:42  <jonasschnelli> jamesob: covered by the RPC tests?
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635 2015-12-09T15:29:46  <jamesob> yes
636 2015-12-09T15:30:06  <jonasschnelli> Not sure if creating issue helps... better creating the tests. :p
637 2015-12-09T15:30:40  <jamesob> okay; just don't want to step on anyone else's toes -- I know MarcoFalke's been adding lots of tests, wouldn't want to collide
638 2015-12-09T15:31:36  <jonasschnelli> jamesob: You could add a array to the testframework.py that counts/collects each called RPC command...., then collect and mix the array in rpc-tests.py, ...
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640 2015-12-09T15:32:05  <jonasschnelli> calling rpc-tests.py --extended should then give you an overview of which commands are being used.
641 2015-12-09T15:32:21  <jonasschnelli> You could also track the arguments to make sure, all variations get tested.
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645 2015-12-09T15:33:44  <jonasschnelli> But every – little – improvement regarding (rpc)tests is well appreciated.
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647 2015-12-09T15:38:06  <jamesob> jonasschnelli: I've already added a framework for gathering basic coverage data: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/6804
648 2015-12-09T15:38:41  <jonasschnelli> hah. Didn't saw that. Nice!
649 2015-12-09T15:39:04  <jamesob> so that's what I'm working off of :)
650 2015-12-09T15:39:09  <jonasschnelli> jamesob: could that be combined with -gcov?
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652 2015-12-09T15:39:30  <jamesob> I'm not sure... they're at completely different layers
653 2015-12-09T15:39:54  <jamesob> you're referring to https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/6813, right?
654 2015-12-09T15:39:56  <jonasschnelli> Right. Would be nice to see the passed code coverage after a --extended rpc run of the rpcXXX.cpp files.
655 2015-12-09T15:40:34  <jamesob> yeah, agree.
656 2015-12-09T15:40:39  <jonasschnelli> no familiar with the PR 6813... but lcov/gcov can somehow measure the lines stepped through when running the unittests
657 2015-12-09T15:41:04  <jonasschnelli> You could also add the arguments count to your rpc coverage report.
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659 2015-12-09T15:41:21  <jonasschnelli> amount of arguments would probably be sufficient
660 2015-12-09T15:41:46  <jamesob> yeah, true. In time I think we can unite the two somehow... for now I'm just working on getting that uncovered list down to nothing
661 2015-12-09T15:44:55  <jonasschnelli> right. That's more effective.
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825 2015-12-09T21:03:29  <ploopkazoo> how often is the alert system used?
826 2015-12-09T21:04:11  <gmaxwell> Virtually never.
827 2015-12-09T21:04:22  <ploopkazoo> is there a list of occurrences?
828 2015-12-09T21:04:32  <ploopkazoo> was it used in the 2013 hardfork?
829 2015-12-09T21:04:46  <gmaxwell> I last used it for the BIP66 network turbulance, and I think 2013 was the last time before that.
830 2015-12-09T21:05:08  <ploopkazoo> who has keys for it?
831 2015-12-09T21:05:41  <gmaxwell> actually it was used in 2014, https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Alert_system  (but clearly that list is not complete.)
832 2015-12-09T21:06:03  <gmaxwell> ploopkazoo: Thats not public knoweldge; to protect the key holders from being targeted.
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834 2015-12-09T21:06:43  <ploopkazoo> are there non-devs with keys?
835 2015-12-09T21:06:51  <gmaxwell> ploopkazoo: Yes.
836 2015-12-09T21:07:01  <ploopkazoo> neat
837 2015-12-09T21:07:42  <gmaxwell> alert system is not really useful though, and also doesn't have much risk of abuse; since anyone with the key can also completely disable the system; forcing it to a static key compromised messsage that can't be overridden.
838 2015-12-09T21:11:07  <ploopkazoo> could there be some kind of system where a percentage of other keyholders can invalidate a compromised key?
839 2015-12-09T21:11:18  <ploopkazoo> seems like that would be easy
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846 2015-12-09T21:18:46  <ploopkazoo> does anything other than alerts and "pre-release test build" go to the jsonrpc "errors" string?
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863 2015-12-09T21:41:28  <gmaxwell> ploopkazoo: yes, locally detected network misbehavior. like if you start being fed a bunch of invalid blocks with high difficulty.
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906 2015-12-09T23:08:34  <ale______> I just read Gavin's "Segregated Witness is cool" blog post. I'm left wondering how these new segwit locked outputs will look like an "anyone can spend" transaction? Is he referring to SIGHASH_ANY?
907 2015-12-09T23:09:07  <gmaxwell> ale______: no, like P2SH.
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912 2015-12-09T23:12:36  <tachys_> gmaxwell: ok... I guess he's just referring to how block explorers will deal with this new type of tx
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916 2015-12-09T23:23:11  <gmaxwell> tachys_: it'll look like p2sh to them. so no change even immediately needed, and only small ones.
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