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8 2015-12-13T00:14:58 <syriven> hey all. new-ish to irc. is this a good place to talk about a bitcoin project i'm working on?
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16 2015-12-13T00:25:37 <syriven> anyone around? is this a dead channel?
17 2015-12-13T00:25:50 <sipa> no
18 2015-12-13T00:26:44 <syriven> hmmmmmmmmmmm
19 2015-12-13T00:26:50 <sipa> it's not unusual that it takes a few hours or more until someone answers
20 2015-12-13T00:27:24 <sipa> discussion happens in bursts when enough interested people are present
21 2015-12-13T00:27:46 <sipa> and asking whether something is on topic is hard to answer without knowing what it is about :)
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24 2015-12-13T00:29:28 <syriven> gotcha
25 2015-12-13T00:30:16 <syriven> basically, it's a marketplace server which takes bitcoin deposits from "agents" (human or script-based), and offers services to these agents for sub-satoshi, off-chain deductions on their balance
26 2015-12-13T00:30:38 <syriven> the services are centered around marketplace/networking/database operations
27 2015-12-13T00:30:52 <syriven> if bitcoin is the money for IoT, this aims to be the marketplace.
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29 2015-12-13T00:31:34 <sipa> then no; this channel is about development of bitcoin itself (and the network protocol and consensus rules different clients use), not for development of systems on top
30 2015-12-13T00:31:51 <syriven> k. is there a better channel you know of for this kinda stuff?
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269 2015-12-13T10:29:23 <sturles> I found the reason for my absurdly-high-fee problems when sending transactions. AcceptToMemoryPool has this condition: if (fRejectAbsurdFee && nFees > ::minRelayTxFee.GetFee(nSize) * 10000)
270 2015-12-13T10:29:52 <sturles> I set relayfee to 0.00000001.
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274 2015-12-13T10:30:27 <sturles> So normal fee paying transactions will get rejected if the thransaction has a fee. :-/
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277 2015-12-13T10:31:00 <sturles> Not sure if this is the optimal way of cheching if a fee is absurdly high or nor.
278 2015-12-13T10:31:04 <sturles> *not
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282 2015-12-13T10:32:14 <Luke-Jr> sturles: well don't do that..
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285 2015-12-13T10:32:38 <Luke-Jr> actually, I guess that should be a supported configuration. maybe.
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287 2015-12-13T10:33:49 <sturles> I tried to set it to 0, since mempool limiting made it somewhat irrelevant.
288 2015-12-13T10:34:10 <Luke-Jr> ah
289 2015-12-13T10:34:16 <Luke-Jr> well, not irrelevant as you can see :p
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291 2015-12-13T10:34:25 <Luke-Jr> it also affects the dust spamfilter
292 2015-12-13T10:34:31 <sturles> Yep, it has some side-effects.
293 2015-12-13T10:36:31 <gmaxwell> It'll also result in stuck transactions if you're lower than other nodes around you.
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301 2015-12-13T10:41:19 <sturles> I can't set minrelayfee via rpc, right?
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304 2015-12-13T10:43:04 <sturles> This in qt/sendcoinsdialog.cpp is clearly wrong: msgParams.first = tr("A fee higher than %1 is considered an absurdly high fee.").arg(BitcoinUnits::formatWithUnit(model->getOptionsModel()->getDisplayUnit(), 10000000));
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307 2015-12-13T10:43:45 <sturles> Only correct with the default relayfee setting.
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310 2015-12-13T10:44:17 <Luke-Jr> sturles: I believe that is fixed in master, or maybe a PR
311 2015-12-13T10:44:23 <sturles> OK
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850 2015-12-13T20:23:49 <rusty> kanzure, btcdrak: hmm, I see posts from jl2012 on dormant UTXOs in the mod queue. That thread seems to have stopped making progress, are we suggesting it move to -discuss?
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862 2015-12-13T20:39:17 <rusty> I accepted his posts, but sent all participants a cheery note that it was just circling.
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865 2015-12-13T20:41:05 <kanzure> rusty: why is it circling ?
866 2015-12-13T20:41:35 <rusty> kanzure: because the initial proposal was pretty clear and now it's just being re-stated in different words.
867 2015-12-13T20:41:41 <kanzure> rusty: they looked like good contributions
868 2015-12-13T20:42:15 <kanzure> happy to see we're moderating content now
869 2015-12-13T20:42:39 <kanzure> jl2012 has some email/subscription issues so anything that resembles "rehashing" might be either new content or be due to mail client/delivery issues :-/
870 2015-12-13T20:46:21 <rusty> kanzure: UTXO thread goes: (1) proposal from jl2012. (2) "me too" from gb. (3) response which misunderstands propsal from vincent, with self-noted "off-topic" section(!). (4) Clarification from gmaxwell. (5) Confusion from Chris Priest. (6) Clarification from gmaxwell. (7) More "I don't like this" opposition from Chris Priest. (8) another calrification from gmaxwll...
871 2015-12-13T20:47:18 <rusty> kanzure: I suggested it's time for a move to -discuss, or some actual simulation or implementation results
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879 2015-12-13T20:59:50 <CodeShark> rusty: other than Chris Priest's misunderstanding, I think the thread actually contains a lot of great info. my main issue is I wish gmaxwell would publish these things in places where people could find them more easily rather than letting them get buried in these threads :)
880 2015-12-13T21:00:34 <CodeShark> there are other ideas that stem from these TXO commitment ideas that could be added to the thread, though - some of these were discussed earlier in -wizards
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