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22 2015-12-22T00:23:48 <brg444> huh
23 2015-12-22T00:23:52 <brg444> "miners revert back to the pre-sigwit rules: I believe in that case they could steal all the segwit coins."
24 2015-12-22T00:25:07 <brg444> can anyone make sense of any or this or just noise I should ignore?
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27 2015-12-22T00:29:54 <Eliel_> brg444: not a credible fear. Mostly because by the time segwit enforcement commences, big enough portion of the network will be running it that any miners who try to ignore the new rules will just end up ignored.
28 2015-12-22T00:30:17 <Eliel_> not credible for the same reason as it's not a credible fear to think miners would just suddenly decide all coins are theirs.
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76 2015-12-22T02:02:35 <instagibbs> Miners can't force hard forks.
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217 2015-12-22T06:22:27 <da2ce7_mobile_> it would be great if we could get at least Chinese translations of: https://bitcoin.org/en/bitcoin-core/capacity-increases and https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-December/011865.html
218 2015-12-22T06:22:38 <da2ce7_mobile_> for bitcoin.org
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225 2015-12-22T06:40:15 <jl2012> da2ce7_mobile_ I can translate but that's a bit long. Maybe not word-by-word translation
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239 2015-12-22T07:10:29 <da2ce7_mobile_> jl2012 on 8btc there is a news article on the topic.
240 2015-12-22T07:10:42 <da2ce7_mobile_> http://www.8btc.com/capacity-increases
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247 2015-12-22T07:25:33 <jl2012> I think 8btc has just translated the interpretation of theymos
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292 2015-12-22T08:52:16 <jl2012> It is mentioned that we could have a Chinese-English bilingual mailing list. Anyone working on that? Any suggestion?
293 2015-12-22T08:52:37 <jl2012> I can help the translation. But we need a platform first
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299 2015-12-22T09:03:44 <da2ce7_mobile_> jl2012 I think that it would be great the announcement should be translated to here: https://bitcoin.org/zh_CN/
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331 2015-12-22T10:22:31 <wumpus> ugh, next two meetings couldn't fall on worse days/times, evening of 24 december and 31 december
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335 2015-12-22T10:30:51 <maaku> two week haitus?
336 2015-12-22T10:31:09 <maaku> incidentally, would recommend shifting the release schedule to not fall over the holidays
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339 2015-12-22T10:32:46 <adam3us> jl2012 linux-foundation is where the other lists are
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343 2015-12-22T10:38:16 <wumpus> maaku: that was taken into account, e.g. first RC is jan 6, would otherwise be jan 1, and december is kept very empty on purpose
344 2015-12-22T10:40:07 <wumpus> 0.12 has been frozen on dec 1, anything this month is basically testing and last minute bug fixes
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346 2015-12-22T10:44:56 <wumpus> but yes re: the meetings, a two week hiatus makes sense
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368 2015-12-22T11:22:49 <maaku> how does one do a gitian biuld of current working directory?
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371 2015-12-22T11:25:18 <Luke-Jr> -u bitcoin=/home/luke-jr/Projects/Education/Tonal/BitCoin/bitcoin
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373 2015-12-22T11:27:46 <maaku> bin/gbuild --url bitcoin=../bitcoin ../bitcoin/contrib/gitian-descriptors/gitian-linux.yml bin/gbuild:244:in `block in <main>': must specify a commit for directory bitcoin (RuntimeError)
374 2015-12-22T11:29:46 <maaku> seems to want me to use --commit instead of --url ...
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376 2015-12-22T11:33:24 <midnightmagic> the URL is the source of the bitcoin repo. the --commit is the checkout it uses on-the-fly during initial cloning. the descriptor i think has to be external to the URL location. for the --commit, you can do a check-in, then use: --commit bitcoin=abcdefg... as long as you also use the URL pointing to your local repository.
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378 2015-12-22T11:35:17 <maaku> so you have to have a commit, that's somewhat annoying. but thanks it's working
379 2015-12-22T11:35:35 <Luke-Jr> maaku: you need both
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386 2015-12-22T11:42:22 <wumpus> you can also give a branch name like 'master'
387 2015-12-22T11:43:23 <wumpus> you don't strictly need to specific a specific commit or tag, although for determinism that's usually what you want, if not you could just as well build using the depends system that's pretty much equivalent to gitian without the determinism luggage :)
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389 2015-12-22T11:43:40 <maaku> right this is a one-off test though, so I was trying to build something uncommitted
390 2015-12-22T11:43:47 <maaku> but simple enought to stage and use that
391 2015-12-22T11:44:10 <wumpus> right, in that case I'd go with using the depends system directly for a (cross-)build
392 2015-12-22T11:44:15 <maaku> (testing #7192)
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394 2015-12-22T11:49:03 <Luke-Jr> yes, -c HEAD should probably work
395 2015-12-22T11:49:09 <Luke-Jr> actually, HEAD might not now that I think about it
396 2015-12-22T11:51:31 <wumpus> no, I don't think HEAD works, you need an actual branch name
397 2015-12-22T11:53:50 <maaku> HEAD doesn't work, but stash{0} should
398 2015-12-22T11:53:57 <maaku> (waiting for a build to finish before i try)
399 2015-12-22T11:54:08 <maaku> oh wait no, it totally wouldn't
400 2015-12-22T11:54:19 <maaku> has to be something fetchable
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