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  8 2016-01-04T00:14:13  <dgenr8> rusty: based on your article, do you think txes could be expired from the mempool more aggressively than every 72 hours?
  9 2016-01-04T00:15:05  <rusty> dgenr8: I think that's probably premature.  Things are likely to get worse, not better.
 10 2016-01-04T00:16:38  <dgenr8> if you mean fees going up, does that really matter?  it seems more about the chance it will ever be included, if it hasn't already after X time/blocks
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 35 2016-01-04T00:57:37  <dgenr8> "not on a block trajectory"
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123 2016-01-04T03:50:46  <flound1129> are new blocks written to blocks/blkXXX.dat before being broadcast?
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191 2016-01-04T08:13:25  <jl2012> is there a consensus limit for CHECKMULTISIG not to have more than 20 keys?
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194 2016-01-04T08:18:54  <aj> jl2012: MAX_PUBKEYS_PER_MULTISIG is 20, and you get a hard error if that's hit yeah
195 2016-01-04T08:20:01  <jl2012> thanks, I found the code
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247 2016-01-04T10:39:54  <bedeho> what is the difference between the mempool and relay set? is one subset of the other?
248 2016-01-04T10:40:03  <sipa> nope
249 2016-01-04T10:40:14  <sipa> the mempool is what we expect to be in next blocks
250 2016-01-04T10:40:20  <sipa> the relay set is what was recently relayed
251 2016-01-04T10:41:12  <bedeho> relayed to us?
252 2016-01-04T10:41:22  <sipa> yes
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254 2016-01-04T10:41:51  <sipa> the relay set is needed because nodes may request recently forwarded transactions from us, even if those txn were evicted from the mempool or included in a block
255 2016-01-04T10:41:54  <bedeho> ok, so if someone relays tx which as confirmed long ago, then that would still be in relay set, but not in mempool
256 2016-01-04T10:42:17  <sipa> no, we don't accept a ln already confirmed txn for relay
257 2016-01-04T10:42:23  <sipa> it would be treated as double soend
258 2016-01-04T10:42:58  <bedeho> I see
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260 2016-01-04T10:43:54  <bedeho> and if unconfirmed tx has fee 0, and we expect it to not be mined any time soon, then it would not be in mempool, but it would be in relay set?
261 2016-01-04T10:44:04  <sipa> no, in neither
262 2016-01-04T10:44:36  <sipa> the relay set is there because a txn may disappear from the mempool after we announce the tx to a peer, but before they request it from us
263 2016-01-04T10:45:21  <bedeho> I see, ok thank you sipa
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289 2016-01-04T12:34:20  <m_> gavinandresen: they complain about the chief scientist title? care to change it to something, perhaps funny?
290 2016-01-04T12:34:57  <m_> like bank shill or whatever
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292 2016-01-04T12:36:07  <m_> or chief improvement delayer to not sound offensive
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578 2016-01-04T19:43:37  <astj> Hello, I’m trying to do a p2sh transaction via the rawtransaction api. Anytime I attempt to provide data to the transaction via txin.scriptSig, I get “Operation not valid with the current stack size”. Scripts that don’t rely on scriptSig data seems to work fine though. Does anyone have experience doing p2sh transactions with data from a ScriptSig?
579 2016-01-04T19:44:34  <astj> This error occurs specifically when I try to sign the transaction that is attempting to spend
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587 2016-01-04T19:50:36  <morcos> astj: have you tried using importaddress?
588 2016-01-04T19:51:00  <astj> no, but I can try
589 2016-01-04T19:52:20  <morcos> I think if you do importaddress {redeemscript}
590 2016-01-04T19:53:03  <astj> It seems like import address will let me just watch for transactions to that address. I’ll give it a whirl though
591 2016-01-04T19:53:07  <morcos> then if you try to sign a transaction that has a P2SH of that script as a txin, it'll find the redeemscript and populate it into the script sig for you.
592 2016-01-04T19:53:19  <morcos> and signing should work if you have the private key
593 2016-01-04T19:54:02  <morcos> uh, yeah so i haven't tried this myself
594 2016-01-04T19:54:17  <astj> ok that makes sense, I’ll try it now and report
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598 2016-01-04T19:57:55  <morcos> looks like you might need to pass the 4th argument as true, and maybe consider changing the third depending on whether you want to rescan
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600 2016-01-04T20:00:50  <astj> you mean 3rd argument , I think it only has 3
601 2016-01-04T20:04:19  <astj> bleh, neg. It doesn’t seem to affect the outcome. I tried importing both the hex encoded redeem script and the hashed address version of the script, no dice either way.
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605 2016-01-04T20:08:07  <morcos> ok, i happened to be curious about this myself, so if i figure something out i'll let you know, maybe on #bitcoin though would be better
606 2016-01-04T20:08:09  <astj> you were right about the 4th parameter, it lists it in the code, not the online docs
607 2016-01-04T20:08:28  <astj> yeah sure, I’ll jump there tx for your help
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621 2016-01-04T20:48:46  <astj> @morcos, I figured it out. It was a bug in my code. I have a script that was adding on the data I wanted to process to the ScriptSig, but I wasn’t signing the output from that, so the ScriptSig data wasn’t there to be processed :| . It seems to be working as I expect it to now.
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694 2016-01-04T23:48:36  <gijensen> Would it be possible for an RPC call to dump all the TX IDs of a given blockheight or blockhash in the chainstate database efficiently? I guess what I'm wondering is, is it ordered in any way?
695 2016-01-04T23:49:48  <sipa> the database on disk is ordered
696 2016-01-04T23:50:03  <sipa> the caches are sorted by randomized hash
697 2016-01-04T23:51:42  <gijensen> sipa, I believe that'll help, thanks.
698 2016-01-04T23:53:17  <sipa> dumping is certainly possible, but not trivial without flushing the caches first
699 2016-01-04T23:53:35  <sipa> which would temporarily reduce validation performance
700 2016-01-04T23:53:46  <sipa> as the caches currently have no way to iterate their entries
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