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45 2016-01-09T01:30:18 <Chris_Stewart_5> sipa: Are OP_CODESEPARATOR just represented by spaces inside of the 'asm' script?
46 2016-01-09T01:31:38 <Luke-Jr> Chris_Stewart_5: OP_CODESEPARATOR is unlikely to be in any script you see
47 2016-01-09T01:33:10 <Chris_Stewart_5> Luke-Jr: I'm readying about OP_CHECKSIG here and they mention OP_CODESEPARATOR
48 2016-01-09T01:33:12 <Chris_Stewart_5> https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/OP_CHECKSIG
49 2016-01-09T01:33:23 <Luke-Jr> doesn't mean it's ever used
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51 2016-01-09T01:36:05 <Luke-Jr> Chris_Stewart_5: check out getrawtransactoin eb3b82c0884e3efa6d8b0be55b4915eb20be124c9766245bcc7f34fdac32bccb 1
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53 2016-01-09T01:36:27 <Luke-Jr> it second input uses it
54 2016-01-09T01:36:31 <Luke-Jr> its*
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57 2016-01-09T01:38:16 <Chris_Stewart_5> Luke-Jr: so this is part of the documentation, i missed it the first time I read thorugh it "If there is no OP_CODESEPARATOR the entire script becomes the subscript (hereby referred to as subScript)"
58 2016-01-09T01:38:30 <Luke-Jr> right
59 2016-01-09T01:38:31 <Chris_Stewart_5> is this the entire scriptPubKey?
60 2016-01-09T01:39:02 <Chris_Stewart_5> for instance
61 2016-01-09T01:39:10 <sipa> yes
62 2016-01-09T01:39:16 <Luke-Jr> it's whatever script is being executed
63 2016-01-09T01:39:17 <Chris_Stewart_5> OP_DUP OP_HASH160 90888c92a4754a5ab9463f132b141f64998a3bb2 OP_EQUALVERIFY OP_CHECKSIG
64 2016-01-09T01:39:26 <Chris_Stewart_5> the entire 'subscript' would be OP_DUP OP_HASH160 90888c92a4754a5ab9463f132b141f64998a3bb2 OP_EQUALVERIFY OP_CHECKSIG
65 2016-01-09T01:39:30 <Luke-Jr> if OP_CHECKSIG appears in scriptSig, it's scriptSig ;)
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67 2016-01-09T01:42:17 <Chris_Stewart_5> I have to be as explicit as possible on these things when I'm trying to teach myself or else I get confused :-). Thanks for helping some one out on a friday night
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69 2016-01-09T01:42:55 <Luke-Jr> Chris_Stewart_5: don't rely on the documentation to be complete.
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71 2016-01-09T01:43:57 <Chris_Stewart_5> Luke-Jr: Are you aware of any implementations of script in a pure functional style?
72 2016-01-09T01:46:40 <Luke-Jr> hmm, the Haskell one.. was it called Purecoin I think?
73 2016-01-09T01:46:53 <Luke-Jr> no, that looks like a scamcoin :/
74 2016-01-09T01:47:29 <Luke-Jr> BUT, it's going to be a reimplementation, which may have unknown bugs
75 2016-01-09T01:47:36 <Luke-Jr> so no better than the documentation
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78 2016-01-09T01:48:43 <Chris_Stewart_5> Luke-Jr: I'm going to try and do one in Scala - more for a learning exercise than anything else. Going to use Bitcoinj for a the underlying crypto stuff
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80 2016-01-09T01:56:57 <Luke-Jr> Chris_Stewart_5: cool. as a rule of thumb, if you don't discover a new consensus rule nobody else knows about, you probably have bugs ;p
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82 2016-01-09T01:58:25 <Chris_Stewart_5> Or you know... we could just change bitcon's consensus rulres to be whatever code I write :p
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84 2016-01-09T01:59:03 <Chris_Stewart_5> Seriously though, has there been any work done to like put the consensus rules into some sort of portable format where it could be applied to test various bitcoin libraries?
85 2016-01-09T01:59:38 <Chris_Stewart_5> agnostic of programming language?
86 2016-01-09T02:02:22 <Luke-Jr> Chris_Stewart_5: not enough
87 2016-01-09T02:02:43 <Luke-Jr> Chris_Stewart_5: and considering humans don't know how to do it, it's not a trivial task
88 2016-01-09T02:03:02 <Luke-Jr> the 0.8.0 bug couldn't have been tested for in advance
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90 2016-01-09T02:05:36 <Chris_Stewart_5> Luke-Jr: so I'm trying to dig through the archives, that bug had something to do with block size? 'Unenforced block protocol rule'?
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93 2016-01-09T02:07:06 <Luke-Jr> Chris_Stewart_5: indirectly; it was a limit on number of BDB locks that could be used by a block's update
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95 2016-01-09T02:07:43 <Luke-Jr> Chris_Stewart_5: a more-impossible-to-test-for hypothetical bug, would be if the UTXO database failed to store a particular txid without giving an error
96 2016-01-09T02:08:35 <Chris_Stewart_5> Luke-Jr: so the txid would be valid in the blockchain but the utxo database would have no knowledge that the utxo was spent and a new one had been created?
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266 2016-01-09T06:17:45 <unicodesnowman> Is there any reason why checkpoints haven't been updated for years?
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270 2016-01-09T06:26:50 <sipa> unicodesnowman: we plan to get rid of them and replace with a mechanism that doesn't need manual updating
271 2016-01-09T06:27:14 <sipa> also, signature verification was just made several times faster in 0.12
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279 2016-01-09T06:33:46 <unicodesnowman> thanks sipa
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454 2016-01-09T13:27:10 <NicolasDorier> will it be possible to use service field of the Version message instead of 'havewitness' to announce witness support ? If you code a bot which wants to connect to a peer supporting witness, if you do it like now, then the bot must do the handshake and wait an indefinite time. This will make segwit peer discovery significantly slower.
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466 2016-01-09T13:50:11 <G1lius> IF anyone is relying on mail-archive.com for the mailing-list, it seems to have missed Luke-Jr's new BIP editor mail http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2016-January/012197.html
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599 2016-01-09T19:26:35 <Chris_Stewart_5> Is there any rules for telling when constants are in scripts compared to operations other than conventions (i.e. tx types) and guessing that if it doesn't match an op code it must be a constant?
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625 2016-01-09T20:24:50 <phantomcircuit> Chris_Stewart_5, the only way to be sure is to evaluate the script one byte at a time
626 2016-01-09T20:25:40 <Chris_Stewart_5> phantomcircuit: So there is a guarantee that an op code couldn't appear in the middle of a RIPEMD160 hash?
627 2016-01-09T20:26:20 <phantomcircuit> Chris_Stewart_5, uh
628 2016-01-09T20:26:38 <phantomcircuit> scripts are a byte stream interpreted one byte at a time
629 2016-01-09T20:29:13 <Chris_Stewart_5> so assume that I had this script
630 2016-01-09T20:29:18 <Chris_Stewart_5> "asm" : "OP_DUP OP_HASH160 fa61c451213d6039e34647066a68fa6f56bf6f54 OP_EQUALVERIFY OP_CHECKSIG",
631 2016-01-09T20:29:20 <Chris_Stewart_5> "hex" : "76a914fa61c451213d6039e34647066a68fa6f56bf6f5488ac",
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633 2016-01-09T20:29:46 <Chris_Stewart_5> except in the middle of fa61...54 the byte '76' would be appear
634 2016-01-09T20:30:08 <Chris_Stewart_5> phantomcircuit: shouldn't that be interpreted as an OP_DUP inside of our hash?
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636 2016-01-09T20:31:38 <arubi> er, maybe this is the issue, Chris_Stewart_5 , "0x76 0xa9 0x14 .." <- the 0x14 is telling you that 20 bytes will be pushed to the stack
637 2016-01-09T20:32:25 <Chris_Stewart_5> arubi: oh, ok. That makes sense. Thank you :-)
638 2016-01-09T20:32:35 <arubi> np.
639 2016-01-09T20:32:48 <sipa> Chris_Stewart_5: print("return;") is valid, and does not return :)
640 2016-01-09T20:33:14 <sipa> Chris_Stewart_5: when an opcode appears as part of a data string pushed, it does not function as an opcode either
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643 2016-01-09T20:38:11 <Chris_Stewart_5> I'm curious, is there any interactive interpreter for the script language?
644 2016-01-09T20:38:29 <Chris_Stewart_5> where you can just go and mess around with it? Similar to using a python interpreter
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646 2016-01-09T20:42:07 <afk11> Chris_Stewart_5: http://www.cs.princeton.edu/~tongbinw/bitcoinIDE/build/editor.html is useful, but haven't tested p2sh through it
647 2016-01-09T20:45:03 <Chris_Stewart_5> afk11: Thanks
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652 2016-01-09T20:47:45 <phantomcircuit> Chris_Stewart_5, no
653 2016-01-09T20:48:33 <phantomcircuit> Chris_Stewart_5, there are tools like the one afk11 linked to, they're 99% right but all have slight differences with the bitcoin script interpretter
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664 2016-01-09T21:20:40 <kefkius> Chris_Stewart_5: There's one I'm currently working on but it's still alpha, I wouldn't depend heavily on its results. https://github.com/mazaclub/hashmal - here's a recent screenshot of the develop branch http://i.imgur.com/UHukJEY.png
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666 2016-01-09T21:28:04 <Chris_Stewart_5> kefkius: Cool, that is kind of what I was thinking of. Have you thought about displaying the stack in a vertical fashion?
667 2016-01-09T21:28:45 <Chris_Stewart_5> or is that what is happening next to the Stack: label
668 2016-01-09T21:28:46 <kefkius> Chris_Stewart_5: It does that :P The box next to the label "Stack:" displays a list, there just happens to be only one stack item for the highlighted step
669 2016-01-09T21:28:57 <Chris_Stewart_5> ahhh ok :-)
670 2016-01-09T21:29:25 <Chris_Stewart_5> kefkius: What is the format box for at the top?
671 2016-01-09T21:30:02 <kefkius> Chris_Stewart_5: There's an option to edit a script in human-readable ("Human") format, or hex format
672 2016-01-09T21:30:19 <Chris_Stewart_5> is that the same as 'asm'?
673 2016-01-09T21:30:40 <kefkius> Sort of, you can omit the "OP_" prefix for opcodes, for example.
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676 2016-01-09T21:31:28 <kefkius> Anyway I don't wanna go into an off-topic tangent, so I recommend the channel #hashmal if you want some more in-depth info about it
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703 2016-01-09T22:18:57 <lorenzoasr> hello, in bitcoind0.11 which is the min priority needed to relay a tx?
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