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58 2016-01-26T01:44:37 <Chris_Stewart_5> how exactly is this scriptSig and scriptPubKey evaluated?
59 2016-01-26T01:44:39 <Chris_Stewart_5> ["1", "IF ELSE 0 ELSE 1 ENDIF", "P2SH,STRICTENC"]
60 2016-01-26T01:44:52 <Chris_Stewart_5> multiple OP_ELSE clauses?
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87 2016-01-26T02:17:51 <kefkius> Chris_Stewart_5: It appears that every else statement executes if the one before it did not. This: "1 IF 0 ELSE 1 ELSE 2 ELSE 3 ENDIF" will result in the stack: "0 2"
88 2016-01-26T02:18:17 <kefkius> Whereas this one: "0 IF 0 ELSE 1 ELSE 2 ELSE 3 ENDIF" will result in "1 3"
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91 2016-01-26T02:21:08 <kefkius> So in that script's case, the IF statement is entered, the first ELSE statement is skipped, and the second ELSE statement is executed because the first ELSE statement was not
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99 2016-01-26T02:34:46 <Chris_Stewart_5> kefkius: what about the other OP_ELSEs in the example you gave, are those executed?
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103 2016-01-26T02:36:19 <kefkius> Chris_Stewart_5: For this example: "1 IF 0 ELSE 1 ELSE 2 ELSE 3 ENDIF" - The first ELSE is skipped, the second is executed (so 2 is pushed to the stack), and the third is skipped
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107 2016-01-26T02:37:02 <kefkius> Each ELSE changes whether the next execution block will be executed
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111 2016-01-26T02:43:12 <kefkius> The interpreter uses this vector of bools, vfExec, to decide whether to execute https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/src/script/interpreter.cpp#L244
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113 2016-01-26T02:45:56 <kefkius> An OP_IF pushes the top stack item as a bool to that vector, so if the value is true, execution continues. This is what I gather, at least
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117 2016-01-26T02:56:34 <btcdrak> luke-jr: thanks. I fixed the name.
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119 2016-01-26T02:57:49 <Luke-Jr> btcdrak: and s/C++/C++11?
120 2016-01-26T02:58:08 <Luke-Jr> can some ML mod whitelist the guy I'm replying to so it's not a one-sided conversation out of order?
121 2016-01-26T02:59:46 <btcdrak> Luke-Jr: Fixed
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191 2016-01-26T05:41:51 <op_null2_> Ethereum now #2 on coinmarketcap.com -- should we consider writing a high-level scripting language for Bitcoin? Looks like the market is rewarding Ethereum because of this -- http://ethereum.github.io/solidity/
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193 2016-01-26T05:42:26 <AdrianG> there is a lot more to it than that, op_null2_
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195 2016-01-26T05:42:59 <op_null2_> I'm concerned about massive investor exodus into Ethereum as this stupid Classic civil war debate rages on. Might need to think about fast-tracking Rootstock and Sidechains
196 2016-01-26T05:44:26 <AdrianG> op_null2_: anthony di iorio is now chief digital officer at toronto stock exchange.
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200 2016-01-26T05:48:26 <op_null2_> yeah, not sure how qualified he is for that job to be honest.
201 2016-01-26T05:49:23 <AdrianG> op_null2_: he's a salesman.
202 2016-01-26T05:49:24 <op_null2_> Whatever 'digital' is supposed to mean
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207 2016-01-26T05:52:30 <op_null2_> Anyway, we can learn something from Solidity -- Developers love it. We need something like that for Bitcoin. Food for thought.
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209 2016-01-26T05:56:26 <AdrianG> what is your source
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217 2016-01-26T06:17:04 <gmaxwell> op_null2_: show me what non-trivial thing has been developed with it? I always ask and get nothing but fairly trivial stuff.
218 2016-01-26T06:17:15 <gmaxwell> all the academic work instead adds opcodes to the ethereum VM.
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225 2016-01-26T06:24:50 <op_null2_> gmaxwell: this is probably the most widely used gambling contract -- https://etherdice.io/#contract
226 2016-01-26T06:25:44 <gmaxwell> op_null2_: thats ... really not interesting, I mean you can easily do lotteries and gambling in bitcoin script (and more efficiently with the disabled opcodes reenabled)
227 2016-01-26T06:27:10 <op_null2_> there are tons of companies building DApps w/ Solidity + web3.js + IPFS now . Decentralized Uber, Airbnb, etc. Lots of emphasis on reputation and identity. Using proxy contracts to do tx's on your behalf that can have revokable public keys if you lose your private key -- n-of-m trusted signers can update your pubkey for you in the proxy contract
228 2016-01-26T06:27:37 <op_null2_> gmaxwell: yeah, you can, but -- well, hipster web developers can't write apps with opcodes
229 2016-01-26T06:28:11 <op_null2_> and they rule the world -- theres a new javascript framework every month.
230 2016-01-26T06:28:17 <jeremias> op_null2_: decentralized uber, airbnb, etc? you gotta be kidding me
231 2016-01-26T06:28:24 <jeremias> these guys have no idea what they are doing
232 2016-01-26T06:28:39 <gmaxwell> smart contracts aren't apps, there is an academic paper coming out soon that basically shows that virtually every ethereum contract people are writing (including many of the examples) are totally insecure due to common mistakes in contract authorship.
233 2016-01-26T06:29:03 <AdrianG> gmaxwell: which paper?
234 2016-01-26T06:29:09 <AdrianG> i'd like to read that.
235 2016-01-26T06:29:11 <jeremias> the level of understanding how world actually works seems to be missing from these people... yeah, replace every line of business with DAPPs
236 2016-01-26T06:29:12 <gmaxwell> oh geesh this is OT for here.
237 2016-01-26T06:29:23 <gmaxwell> AdrianG: not published yet, I'll point you to when it is.
238 2016-01-26T06:29:30 <jeremias> well no one else talking, so no harm done, I guess
239 2016-01-26T06:29:30 <AdrianG> what time frame?
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241 2016-01-26T06:30:28 <AdrianG> gmaxwell: so where do people talk about competition to bitcoin then
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243 2016-01-26T06:30:58 <op_null2_> gmaxwell: that will be an interseting read. They're working on Formal Verification of solidity contracts now. https://blog.slock.it/an-ethereum-contract-analyzer-93e9da92fecb#.8ms3j7fhl
244 2016-01-26T06:31:34 <jeremias> AdrianG: https://www.reddit.com/r/altcoin for example
245 2016-01-26T06:32:29 <op_null2_> AdrianG: probably #bitcoin-wizards .. But, maybe Solidity will be on-topic if Rootstock becomes a Sidechain and 100% of BTC move over to it?
246 2016-01-26T06:32:57 <AdrianG> i dont know, but this attitude that nothing ever happens outside bitcoin, is just ....
247 2016-01-26T06:33:00 <AdrianG> sad.
248 2016-01-26T06:33:10 <AdrianG> i cant think of a better word.
249 2016-01-26T06:34:11 <jeremias> AdrianG: probably lots of things are happening, but some of these dAPP people are just out of this world
250 2016-01-26T06:34:23 <op_null2_> I think we should be smart and monitor competition to stay a step ahead of it
251 2016-01-26T06:34:28 <AdrianG> who cares about dAPP. I personally dont think its whats driving this.
252 2016-01-26T06:34:39 <AdrianG> bitcoin has certainly an image problem, and a mining centralization problem.
253 2016-01-26T06:34:53 <jeremias> I don't think so...
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255 2016-01-26T06:34:58 <AdrianG> nobody wants to run a business on a chain thats subject to hijacking by chinese miners.
256 2016-01-26T06:35:20 <jeremias> bitcoin has been working very robustly for very long time
257 2016-01-26T06:35:21 <AdrianG> even if it's "just" a hard fork.
258 2016-01-26T06:35:45 <AdrianG> jeremias: recent events show that current state is not very robust.
259 2016-01-26T06:35:51 <jeremias> whatever man...
260 2016-01-26T06:36:09 <op_null2_> AdrianG: Unfortunately Bitcoin has lots of baggage, and strange characters with oversized egos.
261 2016-01-26T06:36:28 <jeremias> I think that no sane person will choose any altcoin over bitcoin, unless something special is really needed
262 2016-01-26T06:36:49 <jeremias> eg. if the job is basic value transfer and you want to use cryptocurrencies for it, bitcoin is very obvious choice
263 2016-01-26T06:37:01 <AdrianG> jeremias: i see you have a lot of trust in bitmain
264 2016-01-26T06:37:10 <jeremias> I don't even know what that is
265 2016-01-26T06:37:22 <AdrianG> really..?
266 2016-01-26T06:37:25 <AdrianG> you must be joking.
267 2016-01-26T06:37:43 <jeremias> I'm not
268 2016-01-26T06:37:49 <jeremias> I have never cared about mining
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270 2016-01-26T06:37:55 <jeremias> bitcoin has always just worked for me
271 2016-01-26T06:37:58 <jeremias> without caring about mining
272 2016-01-26T06:38:08 <jeremias> ok, sometimes there is a slow block
273 2016-01-26T06:38:28 <AdrianG> sounds very much like "usd always worked for me, without caring about bankers"
274 2016-01-26T06:38:41 <jeremias> hmm
275 2016-01-26T06:38:47 <jeremias> what about this bitmain?
276 2016-01-26T06:38:59 <jeremias> to be honest sounds like some "chinese miner" conspiracy
277 2016-01-26T06:39:01 <AdrianG> until the bankers decide to freeze your account and suddenly usd doesnt work
278 2016-01-26T06:39:15 <jeremias> and miners can freeze my bitcoin cold wallet exactly how?
279 2016-01-26T06:39:19 <jeremias> your comparison is stupid
280 2016-01-26T06:39:24 <AdrianG> its not a conspiracy, just a fact they are enormous
281 2016-01-26T06:39:36 <jeremias> ok, there are lots of big businesses in the world
282 2016-01-26T06:39:41 <TD-Linux> this might be an interesting discussion but it would be better in #bitcoin
283 2016-01-26T06:39:45 <p15> +1
284 2016-01-26T06:40:51 <AdrianG> time to check out indeed.
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287 2016-01-26T06:42:28 <op_null2__> I can just say from experience on the Ethereum forms and slack groups that there are hundreds of devs building dApps with Solidity and web3.js ; why wouldn't Bitcoin want that sort of momentum behind it?
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289 2016-01-26T06:43:31 <op_null2__> anyway, I'll be waiting for that paper gmaxwell cited. In the meantime they're working on Formal Verifications of the contracts
290 2016-01-26T06:44:35 <op_null2__> btw, feedback from the roundtable seems like chinese miners need to speak more closely with core devs. would be good to open communication channels. Classic has had their ears for too long and they haven't heard enough from core
291 2016-01-26T06:45:10 <AdrianG> nobody cares, op_null2__ , bitcoin is the best forever.
292 2016-01-26T06:46:18 <op_null2__> My gut says they don't understand segwit, the only other explanation for their behaviour is that they are playing games/bluffing with Classic to cause uncertainty, waiting for a price drop, buying back lower, and then saying "alright , we'll go with Core again"
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345 2016-01-26T08:15:48 <Taek> does someone mind clearing up the BIP66 hardfork for me? Want to make sure I have the facts correct before I go spreading misinformation
346 2016-01-26T08:16:06 <Taek> As I understand, an accidental hardfork was integrated into a release (0.8.0?)
347 2016-01-26T08:16:13 <Taek> miners upgraded, and forked the chain.
348 2016-01-26T08:16:30 <Taek> then, after some discussion, and like 18 blocks of depth, the miners agreed to downgrade and restore compatibility
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351 2016-01-26T08:17:02 <Taek> all the full nodes running 0.7.x saw some weird activity but after the reorgs settled it was as though no fork had happened
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353 2016-01-26T08:17:28 <Taek> and the full nodes who upgraded to the hardforking 0.8.0 initially followed the fork, saw a reorg, and then followed the main chain too
354 2016-01-26T08:17:40 <Taek> meaning the only people who were forced to downgrade to preserve compatibility were the miners themselves
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407 2016-01-26T09:37:27 <Pirat> вÑем пÑивеÑ
408 2016-01-26T09:38:24 <Pirat> еÑÑÑ ÐºÑо?
409 2016-01-26T09:38:45 <Pirat> Is anybody here?
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498 2016-01-26T12:17:02 <chiwawa_> i gotta ask.. rather than waffling explanations.. is this a rough idea of segwits 2 year plan for the main blockchain http://i.imgur.com/9ERFaDJ.jpg
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612 2016-01-26T15:37:51 <maaku> Taek: that's BIP 50
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615 2016-01-26T15:39:31 <maaku> chiwawa_: no one really knows how weak blocks will turn out in practice
616 2016-01-26T15:39:36 <Taek> oh. Got confused because people keep talking about the BIP66 hardfork. But, BIP66 (strict DER) was not a hardfork either
617 2016-01-26T15:39:44 <Taek> right/
618 2016-01-26T15:39:47 <Taek> *?
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620 2016-01-26T15:39:48 <maaku> BIP66 prevented a hard fork
621 2016-01-26T15:40:06 <Taek> ok. Thanks for the clarification.
622 2016-01-26T15:40:29 <maaku> BIP66 prevented a differentiation between valid serializations on 32-bit vs 64-bit architectures
623 2016-01-26T15:40:57 <maaku> which thankfully was kept under wraps and no one used before deployment of the soft-fork that limited serialization format
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626 2016-01-26T15:41:57 <maaku> Taek: and BIP 50 itself contains of post-mortum of the 2013 fork
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629 2016-01-26T15:43:36 <Taek> https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0050.mediawiki
630 2016-01-26T15:44:01 <Taek> and yet there's very ubiquitous dialog about the "hardfork in 2013 - proving that hardforks can be deployed quickly when there is pressure"
631 2016-01-26T15:44:02 <Taek> :(
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634 2016-01-26T15:44:29 <maaku> bitcoin was a lot smaller in 2013...
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636 2016-01-26T15:45:28 <chiwawa_> im still wrapping my head around the whole. 2mb is bad as everyone needs to change.. vs. if you want to be a full verifying node after segwit, everyone needs to change..
637 2016-01-26T15:45:37 <Taek> If I'm reading the post-mortem correctly, there was no hardfork that got deployed? The 'quick action' involved getting 2 miners to downgrade, not getting the entire ecosystem to upgrade3
638 2016-01-26T15:46:01 <Taek> even if the network was a comparible size, BIP50 and a block size increase are two totally different beasts
639 2016-01-26T15:46:31 <instagibbs> chiwawa_, it's subtle. I think the phrase "spv security" is a misnomer to a large degree the way softforks are rolled out
640 2016-01-26T15:46:41 <maaku> chiwawa_: https://petertodd.org/2016/soft-forks-are-safer-than-hard-forks
641 2016-01-26T15:46:49 <instagibbs> but only my opinion apparently
642 2016-01-26T15:46:51 <Taek> chiwawa_: segwit has a much more graceful upgrade process though.
643 2016-01-26T15:47:29 <maaku> Taek: from the perspective 0.7 nodes there was a probabalistic hard fork that got deployed a few months later
644 2016-01-26T15:48:10 <maaku> Taek: it was never guaranteed that a 0.7 would hard-fork (it depended on the vageries of the bdb database)
645 2016-01-26T15:48:26 <maaku> and if you got stuck, chances were you could just -reindex and it would continue
646 2016-01-26T15:48:26 <Taek> I do think that deployment timelines for soft forks should be longer than they have been historically. I think that when CLTV was deployed, only 30% of fullnodes were doing full validation. That potentially gives miners wiggle room to undo the soft-fork, as the 'economic majority' may not have upgraded yet
647 2016-01-26T15:49:41 <maaku> Taek: why? soft forks don't have SPV failure modes (if properly deployed)
648 2016-01-26T15:49:42 <Taek> maaku: I did not realize that. The dialog that I'm familiar with states that all nodes 0.3.21 and older will follow the chain. Didn't know they would probabilistically get stuck
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650 2016-01-26T15:50:36 <Taek> maaku: can you expand on "soft forks don't have SPV failure modes (if properly deployed)", I'm not sure what you mean
651 2016-01-26T15:51:27 <maaku> Taek: if you are running bitcoind as a full node, you are ALWAYS only validating a subset of the rules that govern block creation
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653 2016-01-26T15:52:07 <Taek> ?
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656 2016-01-26T15:53:22 <maaku> but to your question specifically there aren't failure modes related to soft-forks where you end up on a fork that is not "the one true bitcoin"
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658 2016-01-26T15:53:44 <Taek> the attack I'm talking about in my deployment-paranoid post is one where the miners start enforcing a softfork with anyone-can-spend. Some nodes upgrade, and then make use of the new features. Then miners stop enforcing it, steal the funds in the anyone-can-spend, and then essentially hardfork all the recently upgraded nodes off the network
659 2016-01-26T15:53:57 <Taek> nodes that haven't upgraded yet won't know the difference
660 2016-01-26T15:53:57 <maaku> I think it is a misapplication of the words "SPV security" to say that an unupgraded node is only "SPV secure"
661 2016-01-26T15:53:59 <chiwawa_> the problem with softforks is the misconception that people who are running core. (full nodes) think they dont have to upgrade and they think they are still fullnodes after a softfork.. but if full nodes want to be full nodes they have to upgrade.. so they might aswell be for a bigger and more effective reason.. EG 2mb+segwit. (best of both worlds)
662 2016-01-26T15:54:33 <maaku> Taek: nodes that haven't upgraded wouldn't use or care about the new feature
663 2016-01-26T15:54:40 <maaku> note that it is the UPGRADED nodes who are vulnerable
664 2016-01-26T15:55:15 <Taek> in this attack, yes
665 2016-01-26T15:55:15 <maaku> chiwawa_: they are full nodes. they remain full nodes
666 2016-01-26T15:55:39 <maaku> chiwawa_: there is no weaking of security after the deployment of segwit, nor was there after the deployment of p2sh
667 2016-01-26T15:55:47 <chiwawa_> not if they cant verify everything.. they would be classed as lightnodes or 90% nodes lol
668 2016-01-26T15:56:17 <Taek> The fear about 'SPV' for unupgraded nodes is that they can't tell if an incoming transaction is at risk of being reorged. They don't know if the mining power is going to agree on the new block, if the mining power is split between to different softfork rulesets
669 2016-01-26T15:56:24 <Taek> I think
670 2016-01-26T15:56:28 <Taek> but that's a risk anyway
671 2016-01-26T15:56:31 <maaku> chiwawa_: that is a misunderstanding of bitcoin's security model
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673 2016-01-26T15:57:14 <Taek> or rather, unupgraded nodes don't know if their balance will still be valid after they upgrade.
674 2016-01-26T15:57:27 <maaku> Taek: so they wait for confirmations. note: this is true regardless of soft forks!
675 2016-01-26T15:57:35 <Taek> yeah
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677 2016-01-26T15:57:59 <maaku> Taek: unupgraded nodes will not be seeing new-style transactions
678 2016-01-26T15:58:02 <maaku> (in their wallet)
679 2016-01-26T15:58:12 <chiwawa_> letting in data you cant check is not "full" node.. thats wishy washy 90% check node.. so emphasising "full node" where people want to FULLY check every transaction. which is the definition of a FULL node. for someone to be a full node.. rather than just a "compatible" node.. they need to upgrade
680 2016-01-26T15:58:30 <Taek> maaku: does that mean that, if segwit gets deployed, wallets will not acknowledge income sent from segwit addresses?
681 2016-01-26T15:59:06 <maaku> Taek: sure they will. but it's not in your balance until its confirmed ... same as always
682 2016-01-26T15:59:15 <chiwawa_> being a compatible node. that just accepts data blindly. is different to a full nod doing full checks..
683 2016-01-26T15:59:24 <maaku> sipa did a good writeup of this recently on the mailing list
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686 2016-01-26T16:01:51 <Taek> if you are never planning on upgrading, that's sufficient and is full security. If you are planning on upgrading, there is uncertainty that the output was legal. You have SPV security on that output, assuming you are planning on upgrading.
687 2016-01-26T16:02:08 <Taek> hmm
688 2016-01-26T16:02:18 <Taek> that doesn't sound right now that I've said it out loud
689 2016-01-26T16:05:09 <instagibbs> chiwawa_, don't be so worried about other people's money :)
690 2016-01-26T16:05:32 <proslogion> maaku: hi, i remember you wrote something somewhere about why not to limit txs by size or number of sigops, is that true?
691 2016-01-26T16:06:32 <maaku> proslogion: i do not have a general write-up, but that is something I feel strongly about yes
692 2016-01-26T16:06:46 <proslogion> a reddit comment or something iirc
693 2016-01-26T16:06:51 <maaku> there are many more advanced protocols that use bitcoin for arbitration, and those arbitration proofs might be very large
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695 2016-01-26T16:07:08 <maaku> if you're worried about validation cost, limit by validation cost. address the problem not the symptoms
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698 2016-01-26T16:07:50 <proslogion> maaku: right tks, what i remembered though was a theoretical objection, not sure how i got that idea
699 2016-01-26T16:08:02 <chiwawa_> well thats what makes me laugh.. people that want to be full nodes, by definition want to be part of the security and worry about the communities funds as a whole.. so those wanting to be full nodes instead of compatible nodes do need to know all the ramifications if a upgrade is needed to remain full node status rather than just compatible status of 90% checkability.. we might aswell make the upgrade worthy by doing more than
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701 2016-01-26T16:08:20 <instagibbs> proslogion, I think it's also easier for miners/spenders to efficiently price transactions and pack blocks
702 2016-01-26T16:08:29 <instagibbs> without the "&&" constraints
703 2016-01-26T16:08:44 <maaku> no it's very much a practical concern
704 2016-01-26T16:08:56 <proslogion> maaku: instagibbs thanks
705 2016-01-26T16:09:08 <maaku> the SPV peg for example will require huge transactions for the reorg/fraud proofs
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707 2016-01-26T16:10:38 <instagibbs> proslogion, otherwise you get fun attacks like this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1166928.0;all
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711 2016-01-26T16:14:40 <Taek> maaku: do you think VCM should be a hardfork? Otherwise you have to preserve all existing limitations.
712 2016-01-26T16:15:09 <Taek> which I think brings up another point. From a perspective of deployment, a block size increase is much simpler than other types of hardforks, especially if you are considereing custom clients and modified forks of bitcoind
713 2016-01-26T16:15:45 <Taek> if the hardfork is not as simple as changing a constant, legacy systems running different code are going to need more deployment time and effort
714 2016-01-26T16:16:11 <Taek> sorry if this has been beaten to death, I have the best intentions
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719 2016-01-26T16:20:24 <maaku> VCM?
720 2016-01-26T16:20:33 <Taek> validation cost metric
721 2016-01-26T16:20:45 <Taek> I thought that's the term that was being used
722 2016-01-26T16:21:03 <maaku> First I've seen the acronym
723 2016-01-26T16:21:21 <maaku> When there is a hard fork, those limitations should be dropped.
724 2016-01-26T16:21:28 <Taek> togami was using it previously, though he might have been the only one
725 2016-01-26T16:22:07 <Taek> " those limitations" -> which ones?
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731 2016-01-26T16:27:22 <maaku> Sigops, mostly.
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831 2016-01-26T18:06:11 <jonasschnelli> I have a stuck tx (stuck because of non strict DER [low s]) on mainnet. I dropped the related inputs private keys. Can I normalize the input signatures with just the rawtx (from the blockchain) and re-broadcast?
832 2016-01-26T18:06:27 <jonasschnelli> It's just a couple of bits. But I'm wondering if its possible.
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837 2016-01-26T18:11:48 <paveljanik> jonasschnelli, you definitely should be able to. Remember there was an high-s attack on the network...
838 2016-01-26T18:11:59 <paveljanik> There is an example in BIP0062 to do it.
839 2016-01-26T18:12:36 <jonasschnelli> paveljanik: Okay. Yes. I think i just extract the DER sig, pass it though libsecp256k1's normalize function, pack it back into the tx and re-broadcast.
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841 2016-01-26T18:12:54 <jonasschnelli> The stuck tx is older then 14 day... I think it should be okay to double spend it.
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848 2016-01-26T18:24:32 <arubi> genuine question, couldn't you just grab s, do something like 'mod(-s,n)', stick it back in (change size of input if needed) and broadcast?
849 2016-01-26T18:29:15 <arubi> oh.. "secp256k1_scalar_negate.." I guess so.
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894 2016-01-26T19:17:01 <wallet42> does the release version has zmq support built in or do i need to compile myself?
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903 2016-01-26T19:21:03 <Luke-Jr> wallet42: I think the Linux builds will (note Core 0.11 does not have ZMQ at all)
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910 2016-01-26T19:28:29 <jonasschnelli> wallet42: only the "official" windows build does not have it. You need 0.12 (linux/osx).
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962 2016-01-26T20:47:14 <denisx> hmm, bitcoin still needs openssl but libconsensus does not. is that right?
963 2016-01-26T20:47:44 <joecool> that's how i understand it... you can use libressl in place of openssl now if you like
964 2016-01-26T20:48:08 <instagibbs> openssl isn't used for consensus stuff, correct. Still used for RNG in wallet and other places
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994 2016-01-26T21:18:36 <denisx> I try to build bitcoin 0.12.0rc2 on freebsd and I get âmake[2]: don't know how to make FORCE. Stopâ
995 2016-01-26T21:18:38 <denisx> any ideas?
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997 2016-01-26T21:19:45 <Luke-Jr> gmake?
998 2016-01-26T21:20:00 <denisx> good hint
999 2016-01-26T21:21:26 <denisx> Luke-Jr: if it is a question then no, freebsd make
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1031 2016-01-26T22:04:13 <xabbix> Is some sort of attack going on atm?
1032 2016-01-26T22:06:15 <xabbix> I see a huge amount of transactions being broadcasted to my node
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1036 2016-01-26T22:07:40 <xabbix> almost all are orphan
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1044 2016-01-26T22:14:07 <denisx> Luke-Jr: using to gmake helped
1045 2016-01-26T22:14:17 <denisx> aeh, switching to gmake helped
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1106 2016-01-26T23:39:02 <xabbix_> How do I define multiple debugging categories in bitcoin-core? -debug=alert,mempool?
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