1 2016-02-09T00:00:57 <wumpus> none at all
2 2016-02-09T00:01:45 <midnightmagic> :-(
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4 2016-02-09T00:02:21 <midnightmagic> wumpus: when was the last time you rebuilt your base vm images?
5 2016-02-09T00:03:03 <wumpus> the relevant one (base-trusty-amd64) is from jan 13
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21 2016-02-09T00:50:04 <moa> what's the new blockonly flag? "-blockonly" "-onlyblock" "-blocksonly" ?
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24 2016-02-09T00:52:35 <moa> nm
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26 2016-02-09T00:53:22 <phantomcircuit> moa, blocksonly
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28 2016-02-09T01:00:21 <moa> phantomcircuit: thnx ... will the node still serve blocks also if this enabled?
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35 2016-02-09T01:06:23 <phantomcircuit> moa, just
36 2016-02-09T01:06:37 <moa> jsut listen
37 2016-02-09T01:06:46 <phantomcircuit> moa, the only thing it wont do that you might care about is relay wallet transactions
38 2016-02-09T01:06:55 <moa> right
39 2016-02-09T01:07:03 <phantomcircuit> if you're using blocksonly and a wallet you have to relay the transactions some other way
40 2016-02-09T01:07:22 <phantomcircuit> (or enable relaying of wallet transactions again, but that destroys your privacy)
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264 2016-02-09T10:42:52 <mrlack> is bitcoin the our future?
265 2016-02-09T10:44:33 <mrlack> Is anybody here?
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269 2016-02-09T11:01:19 <firelegend> In Core, is it normal sync-ing of around 5 weeks to take more than half a day?
270 2016-02-09T11:01:46 <firelegend> Also, are tx'es/blocks commited on per tx/block basis or when a buffer has been filled sufficiently?
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273 2016-02-09T11:13:39 <gmaxwell> firelegend: depends on your hardware and connecitivity. 0.12rc is _much_ faster.
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275 2016-02-09T11:14:26 <gmaxwell> During initial block download flushes depend on memory usage. If you have a lot of ram you can set dbcache=3000 and greatly speed things up. (though not as much as 0.12rc speeds it up, though the combination is fastest)
276 2016-02-09T11:14:58 <gmaxwell> we've been working for years to extract the speed that is in 0.12... it's difficult keeping up with the system's rapid growth!
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278 2016-02-09T11:19:36 <phantomcircuit> gmaxwell, i can do a full chain sync with checkpoints disabled in ~4 hours on my i7-4790k system with the entire chain in ram
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280 2016-02-09T11:20:17 <phantomcircuit> unfortunately this is the fastest single threaded performance cpu available on the market (which is partially the bottleneck now)
281 2016-02-09T11:20:31 <phantomcircuit> (also it's like several years old intel hasn't made anything faster since)
282 2016-02-09T11:21:25 <gmaxwell> phantomcircuit: I have benchmarks under 4 hours... though on a much faster system.
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284 2016-02-09T11:21:50 <gmaxwell> (the 24 core haswell v3 box with 128 gb ram... from the public internet though)
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286 2016-02-09T11:22:34 <phantomcircuit> gmaxwell, interesting
287 2016-02-09T11:22:45 <phantomcircuit> possibly it wasn't actually all in ram
288 2016-02-09T11:23:03 <phantomcircuit> i was doing a reindex which would be slower than the public internet in most scenarios
289 2016-02-09T11:23:13 <firelegend> phantomcircuit:Was gmaxwell responding to me?
290 2016-02-09T11:23:30 <phantomcircuit> the price for 4790k cpus hasn't gone down at all in 2 years
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370 2016-02-09T14:42:07 <jl2012> My 2-3 year proposal for better header format and larger block size: http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2016-February/012414.html
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374 2016-02-09T14:47:54 <aj> jl2012: Q3 for BIP141? booo! :)
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376 2016-02-09T14:48:33 <jl2012> aj: it also depends on how miners adopt
377 2016-02-09T14:48:56 <jl2012> code should be merged in Q2
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379 2016-02-09T14:50:40 <aj> jl2012: yeah, i know. :) your first approach's stage 2 sounds the same as BlueMatt's proposal to me?
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381 2016-02-09T14:51:39 <jl2012> aj: yes, just with more details
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383 2016-02-09T14:53:00 <jl2012> aj: oh no, BlueMatt's proposal implies both
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385 2016-02-09T14:55:23 <aj> jl2012: BlueMatt had the extra nonce bits as optional, and didn't have timewarp or header format changes i think?
386 2016-02-09T14:55:43 <aj> jl2012: ("we could table #4, or activate #4 a year or two after 1-3 activate")
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388 2016-02-09T14:56:39 <jl2012> yes, not exactly the same. But time warp attack could only be fixed by a *real* hardfork, and we MUST fix it someday
389 2016-02-09T14:57:26 <jl2012> header format change is actually Luke-Jr's proposal, which is mentioned in Bluematt's post
390 2016-02-09T14:59:52 <aj> jl2012: yeah; i think i like your approach as a refinement on BlueMatt's (ie, providing a rough timeline, and separating out changes that SPV nodes won't notice from ones they will)
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392 2016-02-09T15:01:36 <fugaditokens> one question please :) smos linux work alone or up another OS?
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400 2016-02-09T15:26:24 <dansmith_btc> Hi, is utxo db serialized deterministically? The reason why Im asking: I want a few people to confirm their utxo hash at the same block height. Will their hashes match?
401 2016-02-09T15:27:21 <wumpus> dansmith_btc: the utxo hash in gettxoutsetinfo is deterministic
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486 2016-02-09T17:31:47 <bsm117532> Journal club about ECC encryption in NYC on Feb 24 if anyone is interested: http://www.meetup.com/BitDevsNYC/events/228728729/
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571 2016-02-09T19:37:29 <adiabat> Hi - is there a channel specific to the segregated witness test network (segnet), or are those questions appropriate here?
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574 2016-02-09T19:38:50 <gmaxwell> adiabat: #segwit-dev
575 2016-02-09T19:39:25 <adiabat> got it thanks
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607 2016-02-09T20:19:29 <GuruMonk> Hi All
608 2016-02-09T20:20:23 <midnightmagic> wumpus: would an issue be useful at all for me to submit for the gitian building process?
609 2016-02-09T20:21:16 <midnightmagic> .. i'll just file it, for tracking.
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615 2016-02-09T20:26:51 <qingu> Hey, quick question: how do I get the coverage report for tests? I tried ./configure --enable-lcov && make cov, but without luck
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642 2016-02-09T21:08:06 <skyzer> How is this possible my bitcoin core generated bitcoin address that is not valid? Sorry, '1FxCEQsvS5TEecLCUXbsZfsK5WwyBUUk7kai' is not a valid BTC address, wallet name, transaction or block
643 2016-02-09T21:08:47 <skyzer> https://gyazo.com/b6a6fbbad450c192445993b6d234ecb6 here is a screenshot of it
644 2016-02-09T21:09:55 <buZz> that isnt a bitcoin core screenshot, is it?
645 2016-02-09T21:10:12 <skyzer> nono, its from my app, but bitcoin core generated it.
646 2016-02-09T21:10:24 <skyzer> only thing before outputting in that field im using encodeURI in jS
647 2016-02-09T21:10:31 <buZz> think it would be best to post screenshot from creating the address then
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649 2016-02-09T21:10:34 <skyzer> encodeURI(data.address)
650 2016-02-09T21:10:42 <skyzer> yes, digging into it
651 2016-02-09T21:10:51 <buZz> do you have the privkey to it?
652 2016-02-09T21:11:04 <buZz> have you asked your daemon 'validateaddress' with this address?
653 2016-02-09T21:11:11 <skyzer> doin
654 2016-02-09T21:12:19 <arubi> I can't validate it..
655 2016-02-09T21:12:33 <Luke-Jr> cfields: fwiw http://0bin.net/paste/fxh1xRMZd8yWeyh3#OR5lltiWDfbQaOC8ae05hddY+vQwWox0NPdJN5gAd5o
656 2016-02-09T21:13:36 <cfields> Luke-Jr: thanks. will add once access is fixed up
657 2016-02-09T21:13:42 <skyzer> 1FxCEQsvS5TEecLCUXbsZfsK5WwyBUUk7kai: invalid
658 2016-02-09T21:13:42 <skyzer> 1 FxCEQS5TEecLCUXbsZfsK5WwyBUUk7kai: valid. after page refresh.
659 2016-02-09T21:15:46 <buZz> thats not the same key
660 2016-02-09T21:16:03 <Luke-Jr> skyzer: sounds like you have a problem copying the address from Core to the webpage
661 2016-02-09T21:16:17 <Luke-Jr> buZz: the first one is just invalid, it isn't a key at all
662 2016-02-09T21:16:27 <skyzer> after page refresh it showed it all good.
663 2016-02-09T21:16:29 <buZz> some windows viruses abuse copypaste buffers to replace addresses with their own
664 2016-02-09T21:16:31 <skyzer> yes, some app problem
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666 2016-02-09T21:18:00 <skyzer> okay, user told he probably accidently hit some keys and inserted there characters.
667 2016-02-09T21:18:06 <skyzer> i got little bit worried, its all okay now=)
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683 2016-02-09T21:41:40 <Dizzle> gavinandresen and jtoomim: naive question, but is Classic's 2MB consensus code licensed such that Core could incorporate the same changes should they decide to do so at some point?
684 2016-02-09T21:44:15 <jtoomim> of course
685 2016-02-09T21:44:37 <jtoomim> it uses the same license as Core
686 2016-02-09T21:44:50 <jtoomim> i think it's either BSD or MIT, can't remember which
687 2016-02-09T21:45:11 <jtoomim> MIT.
688 2016-02-09T21:46:12 <Dizzle> cool, thanks
689 2016-02-09T21:46:23 <brg444> jtoomim: do you plan to address claims that support for Classic is mischaracterized on the website?
690 2016-02-09T21:47:05 <jtoomim> i do not control the website
691 2016-02-09T21:47:17 <brg444> i see
692 2016-02-09T21:47:19 <brg444> who does?
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694 2016-02-09T21:48:13 <jtoomim> i think olivier set that up
695 2016-02-09T21:48:45 <brg444> Understood. Thanks
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721 2016-02-09T22:27:25 <jtimon> jl2012: although I BIP99 contains the timewarp fix, it wasn't selected because it's critical, but rather because undeniably good and trivial to implement, with the hope of adding more little things to a reasonably sized list of little things (like recovering bits and other stuff), and in fact my fear was that there would be too many little things and that would have to be comprimised with the goal of maintaining it relatively
722 2016-02-09T22:27:25 <jtimon> trivial to backport/reimplement. But it's not so clear to me that the timewarp is worth it as a single-feature hardfork
723 2016-02-09T22:29:14 <jtimon> I'm very tempted to remove the hardfork proposal part from bip99 and leave it as purely informational when I update it to link to luke's and your hardfork bit BIPs
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749 2016-02-09T23:19:19 <vergeDEV> has anything crazy changed since .9 and .12 as far as the rpc getwork? i just made a clone of .12 for testing, and cant even mine the genesis block, miner gives me a server error 500...
750 2016-02-09T23:19:46 <vergeDEV> ive only tried cpuminer, i guess i can try my antminer, but figured id check first
751 2016-02-09T23:20:49 <vergeDEV> never had an issue like this from .9 or previous
752 2016-02-09T23:21:49 <gmaxwell> vergeDEV: take altcoin questions elsewhere. The genesis block has always been hardcoded in bitcoin and getwork hasn't been in the software for years.
753 2016-02-09T23:23:59 <vergeDEV> gmaxwell: this channel is exactly for protocol talk. ive been coming in here for years. there is no "altcoin" channel for talking about bitcoins protocol
754 2016-02-09T23:24:30 <vergeDEV> the genesis block is hardcoded in all coins, we know its hardcoded in chain paramaters.
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756 2016-02-09T23:25:08 <vergeDEV> if you cant contribute to the conversation, you chime-ins aren't needed.
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