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  3 2016-02-12T00:02:36  <Diablo-D3> gmaxwell: Im dying, help
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 55 2016-02-12T01:54:26  <rusty> kanzure, btcdrak: <sigh> So, do we want to allow a debate on whether full nodes are really more secure than lightweight nodes?
 56 2016-02-12T01:55:08  <rusty> I mean, is there anything useful and enlightning to say on that, or can we just point to some FAQ?
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 58 2016-02-12T01:59:39  <kanzure> rusty: i saw a pending email about that, but it was super handwavy
 59 2016-02-12T02:00:00  <kanzure> lightweight nodes often don't implement the bitcoin protocol
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 62 2016-02-12T02:00:16  <kanzure> wait why are we calling them lightweight nodes? i thought it was spv or something.
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 64 2016-02-12T02:00:57  <moa> there is a whole zoo of different "lightweight" nodes now
 65 2016-02-12T02:01:08  <rusty> kanzure: yeah, we end up splitting hairs on "current spv clients" and "theoretical spv clients"...
 66 2016-02-12T02:01:11  <midnightmagic> not really the best place for this. maybe #bitcoin or ##bitcoin?
 67 2016-02-12T02:01:12  <moa> a veritable cornucopia
 68 2016-02-12T02:01:31  <kanzure> rusty: unfortunately it's only you and i that end up doing that hairsplitting
 69 2016-02-12T02:01:36  <kanzure> midnightmagic: this is about the bitcoin-dev mailing list, yo
 70 2016-02-12T02:01:52  <kanzure> rusty: i think that if he wants to talk about theoretical spv that's fine, but i don't think he does. so we should reject.
 71 2016-02-12T02:01:54  <rusty> midnightmagic: yeah, I usually ping here, sorry for the noise.
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 74 2016-02-12T02:25:59  <Luke-Jr> kanzure: SPV is much more secure than the garbage out there
 75 2016-02-12T02:26:18  <kanzure> you mean theoretical SPV?
 76 2016-02-12T02:26:30  <kanzure> we don't have working fraud proofs for most things
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 78 2016-02-12T02:26:44  <gmaxwell> even absent fraud proofs, it's better than random web wallets.
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 89 2016-02-12T03:22:44  <Luke-Jr> kanzure: the only fraud proof is downloading the block yourself and checking it
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