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9 2016-03-23T00:22:35 <ginseng> what is the highest version of bitcoin that is incompatible with the current version of bitcoin?
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33 2016-03-23T01:34:25 <Luke-Jr> ginseng: incompatible in what sense?
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35 2016-03-23T01:41:01 <ginseng> Luke-Jr: in the simplest use-case of send A to B. In other words can the original Satoshi 0.1 send and receive coins with current?
36 2016-03-23T01:41:37 <Luke-Jr> ginseng: I believe the transaction format has never changed, but I never used prior to 0.3.19 so I could be wrong.
37 2016-03-23T01:41:55 <Luke-Jr> ginseng: however, if you go back far enough, the node will be unable to sync which is necessary to receive.
38 2016-03-23T01:43:57 <ginseng> Luke-Jr: I see. Do you know approximately when this syncing incompatibility would occur in version history? Thank you.
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42 2016-03-23T01:46:13 <Luke-Jr> ginseng: no, it was before such things were tracked (or even well-defined in understanding); it may even possibly be before the initial git import
43 2016-03-23T01:46:48 <ginseng> Interesting, thank you.
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56 2016-03-23T02:05:13 <Chris_Stewart_5> What kind of signatures were there before DER signatures? Is there a more generic elliptic curve digital signature? I'm trying to figure out how "1" is a valid signature
57 2016-03-23T02:07:03 <Chris_Stewart_5> even if it is not DER
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60 2016-03-23T02:21:13 <Luke-Jr> Chris_Stewart_5: BER
61 2016-03-23T02:21:34 <Luke-Jr> Chris_Stewart_5: what do you mean by "1" being a valid signature?
62 2016-03-23T02:25:05 <Chris_Stewart_5> Luke-Jr: for this test case in core
63 2016-03-23T02:25:21 <Chris_Stewart_5> [
64 2016-03-23T02:25:23 <Chris_Stewart_5> "1",
65 2016-03-23T02:25:25 <Chris_Stewart_5> "0x21 0x038282263212c609d9ea2a6e3e172de238d8c39cabd5ac1ca10646e23fd5f51508 CHECKSIG NOT",
66 2016-03-23T02:25:27 <Chris_Stewart_5> "",
67 2016-03-23T02:25:29 <Chris_Stewart_5> "BIP66 example 6, without DERSIG"
68 2016-03-23T02:25:31 <Chris_Stewart_5> ],
69 2016-03-23T02:25:38 <Chris_Stewart_5> bip66 examples: https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0066.mediawiki#examples
70 2016-03-23T02:26:19 <Chris_Stewart_5> so shouldn't that be a valid BER signature?
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73 2016-03-23T02:26:41 <Chris_Stewart_5> the "1"
74 2016-03-23T02:27:40 <Luke-Jr> no, because it's testing invalid signatures there
75 2016-03-23T02:28:44 <Chris_Stewart_5> pre BIP66 was that was a valid signature wasn't it?
76 2016-03-23T02:30:22 <Chris_Stewart_5> also note that it does not have a "DERSIG" flag
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78 2016-03-23T02:31:02 <Luke-Jr> Chris_Stewart_5: it was an invalid signature
79 2016-03-23T02:31:19 <Luke-Jr> that's why it's in the invalid tests
80 2016-03-23T02:31:50 <Luke-Jr> in the case of what you quoted, notice the NOT at the end of the script
81 2016-03-23T02:31:50 <Chris_Stewart_5> its in script_valid.json
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83 2016-03-23T02:32:00 <Luke-Jr> which inverts the return valid of CHECKSIG
84 2016-03-23T02:32:47 <Luke-Jr> so CHECKSIG returns false because the signature is wrong, and then NOT inverts it
85 2016-03-23T02:32:51 <Chris_Stewart_5> ok, so the BER encoded signature "1" is checked against the public key in the scriptPubKey which results in false which is inverted?
86 2016-03-23T02:32:56 <Luke-Jr> yes
87 2016-03-23T02:33:28 <Chris_Stewart_5> thanks Luke-Jr
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399 2016-03-23T19:20:52 <pharley> i created a 0-fee tx and was running into the "mempool min fee not set" error when trying to send, so i used the workaround of setting prioritisetransaction as described here: https://git.io/vabUJ . but that only works if the mempool is empty, so i have to stop and restart bitcoind before i can send the tx. is there a workaround that doesnt require restarting the daemon?
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