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106 2016-05-07T11:45:02 <jonasschnelli> wallet42: yes. I know curvecp. But the BIPs I started to write use a different approach. Curvecp is nice, but it's effect is on a different OSI layer.
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146 2016-05-07T16:49:04 <Moleniorot> Hi guys
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148 2016-05-07T16:49:44 <Moleniorot> I have a problem with my Bitcoin Core: I have a few non-broadcasted transactions that only exist on my Core instance and I don't want Core to try to broadcast them again - how can I remove those transactions?
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153 2016-05-07T17:07:08 <hidden> i found a wallet (applicationdata folder) directory from my old hard drive and its from early 2013. what is addr.dat?
154 2016-05-07T17:08:04 <hidden> nvm
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184 2016-05-07T19:52:34 <Lucifer333> hello
185 2016-05-07T19:53:31 <Lucifer333> I understand the concept of a block locater, but how can your client distinguish between the most likely best branch and and an orphan
186 2016-05-07T19:53:57 <Lucifer333> How does it know it is on an orphan? can someone direct me to the module in the code? I have been digging for some time
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195 2016-05-07T20:48:00 <belcher> Lucifer333 the best branch is the one that has the most work
196 2016-05-07T20:48:27 <belcher> so a node figures out its on an orphan when it receives another branch that has more work than its orphan
197 2016-05-07T20:48:57 <belcher> btw the name 'orphan' is confusing, its called that because they contain transactions which have no parents, so they are orphans
198 2016-05-07T20:49:05 <belcher> a better name for such blocks might be 'stales'
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204 2016-05-07T21:05:48 <Lucifer333> Ok, so this is not an "orphan" problem, that is a seperate issue
205 2016-05-07T21:05:58 <Lucifer333> sorry was afk belcher
206 2016-05-07T21:06:19 <Lucifer333> can I use an message command example?
207 2016-05-07T21:06:38 <belcher> what do you mean ?
208 2016-05-07T21:06:51 <Lucifer333> ok, let me explain
209 2016-05-07T21:06:55 <Lucifer333> i looked int the code
210 2016-05-07T21:07:12 <Lucifer333> and i see it sends "getaddr"
211 2016-05-07T21:07:44 <Lucifer333> then computes its own best branch (accourding to itself) and creates a locator object
212 2016-05-07T21:07:49 <Lucifer333> it sends the locator
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214 2016-05-07T21:08:04 <Lucifer333> and the other node repleys with "blocks" command
215 2016-05-07T21:08:13 <Lucifer333> so far so good?
216 2016-05-07T21:09:10 <Lucifer333> no
217 2016-05-07T21:09:11 <Lucifer333> wait
218 2016-05-07T21:09:18 <Lucifer333> the blocks are inventory items
219 2016-05-07T21:09:29 <Lucifer333> type 2 "MSG_BLOCK"
220 2016-05-07T21:10:19 <Lucifer333> the client sends "getblocks" and the other endpoint replies with "inv"
221 2016-05-07T21:13:03 <Lucifer333> https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Protocol_documentation#block
222 2016-05-07T21:13:05 <Lucifer333> got it
223 2016-05-07T21:13:36 <Lucifer333> ok, so how does it determine "most work", I am not getting that concept, is that just the existance of "more blocks" on that perticular branch?
224 2016-05-07T21:14:02 <Lucifer333> it gets a bunch of inventory vectors, .. and then what?
225 2016-05-07T21:18:50 <waxwing> Lucifer333: the total cumulative work done in all the blocks along that chain back to the genesis (I think)
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227 2016-05-07T21:19:25 <waxwing> note how it would be totally unsound to measure only with block height
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229 2016-05-07T21:26:04 <Lucifer333> waxwing, how is it measured then?
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231 2016-05-07T21:27:34 <waxwing> well the block hash has to be below a target right .. not sure if it measures in terms of the actual hash or the target. sure someone around here will know.
232 2016-05-07T21:28:02 <waxwing> i guess it must be the actual hash value, not the target, that wouldn't make sense i think
233 2016-05-07T21:28:20 <belcher> it means in terms of the target
234 2016-05-07T21:28:36 <belcher> the nBits field in the block header, the miner has to set this before they start hashing
235 2016-05-07T21:28:52 <waxwing> but wouldn't that result in too many ties? since the target is the same for two candidates
236 2016-05-07T21:29:09 <belcher> the tiebreaker is whichever chain ends up longer
237 2016-05-07T21:29:24 <waxwing> ok, that works too, right
238 2016-05-07T21:29:40 <belcher> yep, thats why more confirmations is better
239 2016-05-07T21:30:07 <belcher> so if your tx has one confirmation, theres a chance that some % of the mining power is working on a block that would orphan it
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245 2016-05-07T21:57:51 <Lucifer333> I am just looking at the block relay mechanism
246 2016-05-07T21:58:17 <Lucifer333> and I your answer to my question is not clear, was it an answer to my question?
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