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 93 2016-07-04T10:10:11  <waxwing> am i right in thinking -rescan will add information to a (the) index data, but not alter the data in wallet.dat? i have no idea what wallet.dat contains, does it basically just contain keys and addresses?
 94 2016-07-04T10:11:20  <waxwing> or does it contain history information also like utxos (or references to)?
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139 2016-07-04T15:01:39  <goatpig> hi
140 2016-07-04T15:02:03  <goatpig> can the fee statistics from Core be queried over P2P?
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161 2016-07-04T15:55:29  <achow101> goatpig: no, only over rpc with estimatefee
162 2016-07-04T15:56:14  <goatpig> how do SPV clients get that data?
163 2016-07-04T15:59:39  <achow101> afaik, they don't. Electrum uses its own special protocol which allows it to request the fee estimate from an electrum server.
164 2016-07-04T16:10:19  <goatpig> thanks for the info =)
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197 2016-07-04T19:09:16  <Daiwo> I there, I'm trying to understanding / differentiate the very core definition of a protocole... [Context] I was trying to find the difference between an "Open Protole" vs an "Closed/Proprietary" only... that lead me to some confusion with Source Code vs RFC .... How are protocole developped,maintained ? is there any source code , like an application , or is it a simple ruleset standard on
198 2016-07-04T19:09:16  <Daiwo> which developper will use in order to create protocole-compatible client/deamon/servers?
199 2016-07-04T19:09:49  <Daiwo> NB. im not english native, please forgive my english
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201 2016-07-04T19:19:22  <luke-jr> Daiwo: consensus protocols are very different from network protocols
202 2016-07-04T19:19:32  <luke-jr> for a consensus protocol, the protocol itself *is* the source code
203 2016-07-04T19:19:49  <luke-jr> specifically the code that determines if a block is valid
204 2016-07-04T19:20:04  <Daiwo> luke-jr: and what is a consensus ?? is it like some RFC ?
205 2016-07-04T19:20:15  <Daiwo> some kind of guidelines recipe
206 2016-07-04T19:20:16  <Daiwo> ?
207 2016-07-04T19:20:34  <luke-jr> consensus protocol is a way to get "all nodes come to agreement on a given state"
208 2016-07-04T19:20:50  <luke-jr> in the case of Bitcoin, the nodes all agree on a valid UTXO set
209 2016-07-04T19:23:17  <Daiwo> researching UTXO set
210 2016-07-04T19:23:37  <Daiwo> lets say the IRC protocol
211 2016-07-04T19:24:10  <Daiwo> what makes it Open, I don't see any source code for it, while Bitcoin (another "open" protocole) has
212 2016-07-04T19:26:20  <luke-jr> IRC is a network protocol; Bitcoin is a consensus protocol; completely different things
213 2016-07-04T19:27:30  <Daiwo> ok
214 2016-07-04T19:27:33  <Daiwo> Hmm
215 2016-07-04T19:28:43  <Daiwo> so there are different way of maintaining/updating/modifying a protocole.. ?
216 2016-07-04T19:28:58  <Daiwo> iiuc
217 2016-07-04T19:29:30  <Daiwo> some by a set of rule like those listed on https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2812#section-3.2.1
218 2016-07-04T19:29:48  <Daiwo> other are source-code based ?
219 2016-07-04T19:29:58  <Daiwo> how to define when a protocle is open and not
220 2016-07-04T19:31:10  <Daiwo> know that every serious input you provide me will actually help me understanding , else, leading me to a better understanding
221 2016-07-04T19:31:40  <Daiwo> my current lvl of understanding (and english skill) shouldn't stop you teaching me ;p
222 2016-07-04T19:31:54  <Daiwo> *spongy mode*
223 2016-07-04T19:32:42  <jpe> Is it weird that I built bitcoin with "./configure --with-qt" and make doesn't seem to build bitcoin-qt?
224 2016-07-04T19:34:02  <moli> Daiwo, https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf
225 2016-07-04T19:34:15  <Daiwo> moli: hx
226 2016-07-04T19:36:25  <Daiwo> but im still trying to figure out what exactly makes a protocole to qualify as "open"
227 2016-07-04T19:37:34  <Daiwo> fact that this doc is public..
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232 2016-07-04T20:10:00  <Daiwo> just cuz I care sharing, here's the answer to my earlier question. thanks to those who at least attempted to help by giving some input: http://www.sutor.com/c/essays/osvsos/
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