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105 2016-10-07T08:32:09  <nazarewk> is there some kind of access management proxy for bitcoind?
106 2016-10-07T08:32:32  <nazarewk> for rpc
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108 2016-10-07T08:40:40  <arubi> nazarewk, bitcoind has a -rpcauth flag now along with a script in ./share/rpcuser/rpcuser.py to generate credentials, and you can set rpcauth multiple times.  not sure if that's what you're looking for
109 2016-10-07T08:41:50  <nazarewk> i mean like giving access to specific commands
110 2016-10-07T08:42:01  <nazarewk> so i could set up read-only node
111 2016-10-07T08:42:24  <arubi> oh, there's the REST api that doesn't require credentials
112 2016-10-07T08:42:57  <arubi> it has some nice stuff, info coming out is public
113 2016-10-07T08:43:45  <arubi> I don't know of any actual access management for specific rpc commands
114 2016-10-07T08:44:39  <arubi> which commands do you want to run through that proxy?
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116 2016-10-07T08:46:26  <nazarewk> it'd be primarily about accessing wallet
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119 2016-10-07T08:47:36  <arubi> for what info?
120 2016-10-07T08:47:54  <nazarewk> basically i need to be able to create read-only server for my application
121 2016-10-07T08:48:35  <nazarewk> i'm the only dev in the project with access to production, which is extremely annoying at a times
122 2016-10-07T08:49:12  <arubi> and what type of info is in the wallet that you'd like to read?
123 2016-10-07T08:50:57  <nazarewk> primarily listsinceblock and gettransaction
124 2016-10-07T08:52:05  <arubi> so you're looking at specific transaction ids that the wallet tracks?
125 2016-10-07T08:54:11  <nazarewk> quite often we want to retrieve all wallet transaction since some time to check how much the data differs from what we have in database
126 2016-10-07T08:55:26  <nazarewk> and right now i'm the only one able to do this
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129 2016-10-07T08:58:18  <arubi> okay, bitcoind has -blocknotify and -walletnotify flags that you can set to run commands when blocks come in, and/or transactions come in
130 2016-10-07T08:58:47  <nazarewk> now that i defined it i can kinda expose endpoint to admin users
131 2016-10-07T08:59:11  <nazarewk> yeah, we already use that
132 2016-10-07T08:59:49  <arubi> ok, so maybe folks shouldn't be really querying bitcoind for this stuff, but rather bitcoind should output the relevant info to some resource that you /can/ easily set access levels to
133 2016-10-07T08:59:58  <nazarewk> we've bitcoind on separate server and sometimes (as in during deploy) we miss those
134 2016-10-07T09:00:18  <arubi> well you do need to run rescan right?
135 2016-10-07T09:00:29  <arubi> these still run in rescans
136 2016-10-07T09:00:34  <nazarewk> then there is listsinceblock "iterator"
137 2016-10-07T09:00:50  <arubi> (maybe not blocknotify, but walletnotify does)
138 2016-10-07T09:00:54  <nazarewk> as a last resort some endpoint exposing raw bitcoind data would be nice
139 2016-10-07T09:01:21  <arubi> thing is bitcoind wasn't designed for this type of access by multiple users
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141 2016-10-07T09:04:47  <nazarewk> now that i think of it i could make a separate table for storing this data in database
142 2016-10-07T09:13:31  <nazarewk> i obviously don't need one right now, but what do you think of a project that would manage access to RPC commands (based on command + arguments number/types), could apply rate limiting etc?
143 2016-10-07T09:15:19  <arubi> I think once the wallet is separated from bitcoind, rpc access management will be very useful
144 2016-10-07T09:16:32  <arubi> I guess you could still run bitcoind without a wallet at all, so yea.  I think it's a nice thing to have
145 2016-10-07T09:18:05  <arubi> but, I think even the most insignificant read access to the wallet degrades by a lot to everyone involved
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147 2016-10-07T09:25:10  <nazarewk> what exactly do you mean by separating wallet from bitcoind?
148 2016-10-07T09:26:27  <arubi> I think it's a long term goal to eventually separate node and wallet functionality, kinda like rpc client was separated from bitcoind a while ago into bitcoin-cli
149 2016-10-07T09:26:38  <arubi> I don't know how much it's actively worked on though
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203 2016-10-07T13:14:00  <nazarewk> overriden blocks get entirely removed from blockchain?
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