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  5 2017-01-07T00:19:57  <cluelessperson> I don't get it
  6 2017-01-07T00:20:07  <cluelessperson> somehow I'm producing invalid 128 bit BIP39 seeds
  7 2017-01-07T00:20:16  <cluelessperson> but valid 256 bit BIP39 keys
  8 2017-01-07T00:20:51  <cluelessperson> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/1bbc514b20a38bac2340404920db1077
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 48 2017-01-07T05:12:39  <achow101> does ckpool (the software) support segwit?
 49 2017-01-07T05:13:54  <luke-jr> I think so.
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 54 2017-01-07T05:25:11  <Lightsword> I use it
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118 2017-01-07T14:40:10  <cluelessperson> Hey guys, am I crazy?
119 2017-01-07T14:40:23  <cluelessperson> can someone please confirm for me if this tool produces incorrect results?
120 2017-01-07T14:40:24  <cluelessperson> https://iancoleman.github.io/bip39/
121 2017-01-07T14:40:41  <cluelessperson> I'm trying to generate my own mnemonics, and used this tool to test
122 2017-01-07T14:40:46  <cluelessperson> but I don't think it's accurate
123 2017-01-07T14:41:12  <cluelessperson> So I tried putting in "my own entropy" from trezor's test vectors
124 2017-01-07T14:41:12  <cluelessperson> https://github.com/trezor/python-mnemonic/blob/master/vectors.json
125 2017-01-07T14:41:21  <cluelessperson> and I think it IS returning incorrect data
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132 2017-01-07T15:11:47  <arubi> cluelessperson, I tried the first 3 test vectors and the tools got them right
133 2017-01-07T15:12:20  <cluelessperson> arubi, seems to be my code then
134 2017-01-07T15:12:57  <cluelessperson> arubi, I'm testing this one, and somehow the last word is off
135 2017-01-07T15:12:58  <cluelessperson> [2047, 2047, 2047, 2047, 2047, 2047, 2047, 2047, 2047, 2047, 2047, 2042]
136 2017-01-07T15:12:58  <cluelessperson> zoo zoo zoo zoo zoo zoo zoo zoo zoo zoo zoo young
137 2017-01-07T15:13:11  <cluelessperson> should be wrong
138 2017-01-07T15:13:13  <cluelessperson> not young
139 2017-01-07T15:14:01  <arubi> I don't understand what you're testing though, I thought you meant that the seed doesn't come out correct from the mnemonic + passphrase?
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141 2017-01-07T15:15:40  <arubi> if the last line in your wordlist is 2047 and is 'zoo', then 'young' seems to be in the correct place at 2042
142 2017-01-07T15:18:02  <cluelessperson> arubi, https://gist.github.com/anonymous/fe8eb1cabcbad1b20cd7cb3b3bc90b02
143 2017-01-07T15:18:07  <cluelessperson> arubi, I'm getting there, slowly
144 2017-01-07T15:19:28  <arubi> nice :)
145 2017-01-07T15:20:17  <cluelessperson> arubi, okay, I think the problem is in my checksum somehow
146 2017-01-07T15:20:31  <cluelessperson> arubi, how the F are they getting 2038
147 2017-01-07T15:20:52  <cluelessperson> arubi, when the checksum is int(10) or binary(1010)
148 2017-01-07T15:21:02  <cluelessperson> that gives,  111 1111 1010 => 2042
149 2017-01-07T15:21:36  <arubi> are you sure that you're using the "password" correctly?  shouldn't it be 'mnemonicTREZOR' ?
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151 2017-01-07T15:22:16  <arubi> I mean, bip39 says that the password field is "mnemonic"+password, where the password for the vectors is 'TREZOR'
152 2017-01-07T15:22:18  <cluelessperson> arubi, you're right, I changed that for testing, however that's calculated *after* the mnemonic is generated
153 2017-01-07T15:22:28  <arubi> ah okay
154 2017-01-07T15:22:47  <cluelessperson> arubi, My mnemonic's last word is off ,because my checksum is wrong somehow
155 2017-01-07T15:22:57  <cluelessperson> arubi, being 2042, versus their 2038
156 2017-01-07T15:23:41  <arubi> mhm, now I understand what you asked in the first place, looking
157 2017-01-07T15:24:02  <cluelessperson> arubi, sha256(entropy_bytes).digest()[0] & (2**checksum_size-1)
158 2017-01-07T15:24:06  <cluelessperson> arubi, I think I found it.
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160 2017-01-07T15:24:23  <cluelessperson> er
161 2017-01-07T15:24:49  <cluelessperson> last_byte & (2**4-1)
162 2017-01-07T15:25:28  <arubi> so, did you find it? :)
163 2017-01-07T15:25:36  <cluelessperson> uh, not yet, but I think I'm staring at it
164 2017-01-07T15:25:38  <cluelessperson> just hasn't clicked.
165 2017-01-07T15:25:57  <cluelessperson> it's that bitoperation, maybe.
166 2017-01-07T15:26:46  <cluelessperson> 15 => 00001111
167 2017-01-07T15:26:48  <arubi> I really wanna implement pbkdf2 now
168 2017-01-07T15:26:58  <cluelessperson> arubi, why's that? :P
169 2017-01-07T15:27:18  <cluelessperson> hash_last_byte & 15 =>
170 2017-01-07T15:27:22  <arubi> so I can implement bip39 :P
171 2017-01-07T15:28:45  <cluelessperson> is my hash wrong?
172 2017-01-07T15:30:32  <cluelessperson> oh, the FIRST bits of the hash
173 2017-01-07T15:30:37  * cluelessperson SLAMS HEAD
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175 2017-01-07T15:30:56  <arubi> hehe oh man
176 2017-01-07T15:31:01  <cluelessperson> wait, those are the first bits.
177 2017-01-07T15:31:08  <cluelessperson> hash[0]
178 2017-01-07T15:31:46  * arubi is trying manually
179 2017-01-07T15:31:58  <cluelessperson> maybe its 1111 0000     instead of      0000 1111
180 2017-01-07T15:35:23  <arubi> so cluelessperson , sha256(ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff) = 5AC6A5945F16500911219129984BA8B387A06F24FE383CE4E81A73294065461B
181 2017-01-07T15:35:51  <arubi> grab the first byte from the hash and append to the entropy:  ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff5A
182 2017-01-07T15:36:00  <arubi> to bits: 1111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111101011010
183 2017-01-07T15:36:12  <arubi> last 11 bits block: 11111110101 == 2037
184 2017-01-07T15:36:21  <cluelessperson> arubi, what's the first byte?
185 2017-01-07T15:36:28  <cluelessperson> arubi,  hash[0] or hash[-1]
186 2017-01-07T15:36:31  <arubi> 0x5A
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188 2017-01-07T15:36:51  <arubi> the leftmost byte, at least how a human would read it
189 2017-01-07T15:38:13  <arubi> then I guess I'm supposed to be left with the last 4 bits that are '1010' ?  not sure what's that for
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192 2017-01-07T15:41:49  <arubi> cluelessperson, I don't know how python's sha256 will place the bytes for the hash.  best is to test if sha256(fffff...) is what I there ^, or 1B46654029731AE8E43C38FE246FA087B3A84B98299121110950165F94A5C65A
193 2017-01-07T15:42:42  <arubi> if it's this second one, then I guess 'hash[-1]', if that one I said at first, then 'hash[0]'
194 2017-01-07T15:43:06  <cluelessperson> arubi, thank you,  I found where I screw up
195 2017-01-07T15:43:41  <arubi> cheers cluelessperson, you made me wanna implement bip39 too :)
196 2017-01-07T15:44:02  <cluelessperson> arubi, I'm doing this to make an easy tool for everyone to use BIP39. ;)
197 2017-01-07T15:44:08  <cluelessperson> and I plan on also doing other BIPs
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199 2017-01-07T15:44:55  <arubi> sweet!  I have my own bunch of tools as well, I like to see how it's done step by step so implementing it works best :)
200 2017-01-07T15:47:25  <cluelessperson> arubi, I'm confused, how are you getting 0101 for the last bits?
201 2017-01-07T15:48:16  <arubi> after the last 11 bits block there's '1010' left.  hopefully I didn't botch something in copy+paste
202 2017-01-07T15:48:48  <cluelessperson> 11111110101 == 2037
203 2017-01-07T15:49:09  <cluelessperson> arubi, the checksum is the entire key_bits_size //32
204 2017-01-07T15:49:26  <cluelessperson> arubi, for a 128bit key, that's 4 bits,    132//11 => 12 words
205 2017-01-07T15:49:43  <cluelessperson> 12x 11bit word_indexes
206 2017-01-07T15:51:31  <arubi> not sure I follow. I just appended the first byte of the hash of the entropy to the entropy itself, then got the numbers from the 11 bits blocks.  that gives me 12 words + 4 bits that are '1010'
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208 2017-01-07T15:55:54  <arubi> is 1010 the checksum?  is the last word + 1010 the checksum?  bip39 isn't very clear :)
209 2017-01-07T15:56:46  <arubi> oh there's a table.  good thing everything is abbreviated..
210 2017-01-07T15:57:48  <cluelessperson> arubi, that's it!
211 2017-01-07T15:57:49  <cluelessperson> checksum = (hash[0] ^ (2**checksum_size-1)) & 15
212 2017-01-07T15:58:04  <cluelessperson> arubi, the last 4 bits are the checksum
213 2017-01-07T15:58:08  <arubi> right
214 2017-01-07T15:58:14  <cluelessperson> arubi, yeah, I screwed up my bitwise operation
215 2017-01-07T15:59:27  <arubi> I still can't figure out what you're using this operation for
216 2017-01-07T16:00:10  <arubi> I can't see where it's used in the bip, and I didn't need it myself just now
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218 2017-01-07T16:22:13  <cluelessperson> arubi, gahd, now I'm getting incorrect seed
219 2017-01-07T16:23:42  <arubi> cluelessperson, so you have the right words but pbkdf2 returns the incorrect seed?
220 2017-01-07T16:23:56  <cluelessperson> arubi, yes
221 2017-01-07T16:24:09  <arubi> did you remember to change back to 'mnemonicTREZOR' for the password?
222 2017-01-07T16:24:22  <arubi> using hmac sha512, 2048 iterations?
223 2017-01-07T16:24:47  <cluelessperson> arubi,   I thought it was b'mnemonic' + mnemonic  :P
224 2017-01-07T16:25:13  <arubi> not if I read it correctly :)
225 2017-01-07T16:25:50  <cluelessperson> arubi,
226 2017-01-07T16:25:50  <cluelessperson> seed = pbkdf2_hmac('sha512', b'mnemonicTREZOR', mnemonic, 2048)
227 2017-01-07T16:25:51  <arubi> afaict, it's the word mnemonic "+" the password, whatever "+" means in that context//
228 2017-01-07T16:26:12  <cluelessperson> arubi, that contatenates the bytearrays
229 2017-01-07T16:27:21  <arubi> so the mnemonic variable is just a string, why not have the password\salt string behave the same?  why b'...' ?
230 2017-01-07T16:28:44  <cluelessperson> arubi, I got them switched around. :)
231 2017-01-07T16:28:51  <arubi> ohh hehe
232 2017-01-07T16:28:52  <cluelessperson> arubi,   the example python code has the arguments reversed.
233 2017-01-07T16:29:05  <cluelessperson> their pbkdf2 function
234 2017-01-07T16:29:16  <cluelessperson> well it works, lol
235 2017-01-07T16:29:20  <arubi> \o/
236 2017-01-07T16:29:30  * cluelessperson writes arubi in as coauthor
237 2017-01-07T16:29:58  <arubi> haha just put down "cluelessperson & co."
238 2017-01-07T16:31:17  * cluelessperson puts cluelessperson & friends
239 2017-01-07T16:31:19  <cluelessperson> :D
240 2017-01-07T16:31:32  <arubi> nice :)
241 2017-01-07T16:31:41  <cluelessperson> smooth move, mister
242 2017-01-07T16:32:23  <arubi> okay, I'm off to take care of some stuff, cya later cluelessperson
243 2017-01-07T16:32:28  <cluelessperson> later
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