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11 2017-05-26T01:36:00 <dstadulis> in this lecture (at this time stamp https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lgYYz3y_hY&t=336 ), tdryja mentions that channel exhaustion, in adversarial conditions, is a risk to the receiving party. Is that because the exhausting party has not yet revoked the exhausting payment (by divulging their commitment revocation key)? i.e. the best the receiving party could do is broadcast Commitment_transaction(-1) and they risk losing the
12 2017-05-26T01:36:00 <dstadulis> amount of funds between the last, exhausting commitment and the second from the exhausting commitment? or is channel exhaustion a risk for another reason
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64 2017-05-26T05:31:39 <Agro> when we generate an address from a public key, do we take the hash160 of the uncompressed key, including the 0x04 prefix or excluding it?
65 2017-05-26T05:34:37 <Agro> been reading some docs, if i'm not mistaken, the 0x04 prefix is included
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74 2017-05-26T06:08:34 <arubi> Agro, you take the 0x02, 0x03 or 0x04 as well yes
75 2017-05-26T06:08:44 <arubi> (if you wouldn't 0x02 and 0x03 would be the same)
76 2017-05-26T06:09:14 <Agro> ahh got it, thanks! are there any situations where you'd hash the compressed point? haven't seen any yet
77 2017-05-26T06:09:34 <arubi> almost all software uses compressed keys now
78 2017-05-26T06:09:41 <arubi> there's not reason not to use compressed keys
79 2017-05-26T06:10:09 <Agro> ah, but the address is still generated from the uncompressed public key, right?
80 2017-05-26T06:10:15 <Agro> p2pkh address
81 2017-05-26T06:10:36 <arubi> nope, because again these would become the same address
82 2017-05-26T06:11:02 <arubi> a compressed pubkey and uncompressed one have different addresses because their hashes are different
83 2017-05-26T06:12:17 <Agro> right, the compressed one is 33 bytes (including the prefix), and the uncompressed one is 65 bytes including the prefix. the docs i've been reading derives the p2pkh address from the uncompressed point
84 2017-05-26T06:12:24 <Agro> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/17672696/generating-bitcoin-address-from-ecdsa-public-key http://enetium.com/resources/Bitcoin.pdf
85 2017-05-26T06:12:42 <arubi> these are just examples
86 2017-05-26T06:13:01 <arubi> in reality, nobody uses uncompressed pubkeys for addresses or scripts
87 2017-05-26T06:13:40 <Agro> oh hmm
88 2017-05-26T06:20:27 <Agro> ok i think i got it now, can generate the address from the compressed or uncompressed point. as long as you specify the correct pubkey in the scriptPubkey, it should be fine, yeah? does OP_CHECKSIG expect a compressed/uncompressed key though?
89 2017-05-26T06:20:46 <arubi> it expects a valid public key
90 2017-05-26T06:21:03 <arubi> (and a signature)
91 2017-05-26T06:23:32 <arubi> Agro, really just look at any p2pkh transaction in flight right now. they all use compressed keys
92 2017-05-26T06:23:52 <Agro> will do
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94 2017-05-26T06:26:45 <sictransitgloria> hey all, anyone around? my friend is having an issue w/ 14.1 and I haven't seen this before
95 2017-05-26T06:27:04 <sictransitgloria> basically ran into some rpcworkqueue errors and then he rebooted the node and it's chugging really slowly, last line in debug.log is: Waiting for data... (interrupt to abort)
96 2017-05-26T06:27:20 <sictransitgloria> plenty of space/blocks on drive and CPU/RAM
97 2017-05-26T06:27:56 <sictransitgloria> not sure if it's hardware-layer issue but wondering if anyone else has seen this
98 2017-05-26T06:28:23 <sictransitgloria> sorry, last line is: 2017-05-26 06:24:22 init message: Loading addresses...
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100 2017-05-26T06:30:21 <arubi> maybe move the peers.dat file somewhere and try again?
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103 2017-05-26T06:37:43 <Agro> arubi, yeah, just went through a transaction, uses a compressed key. if i were to use an uncompressed one, would be paying for an additional 32 bytes in fees huh
104 2017-05-26T06:37:53 <arubi> yep
105 2017-05-26T06:39:36 <Agro> thanks for the help, wouldn't have realized that
106 2017-05-26T06:39:45 <arubi> cheers Agro
107 2017-05-26T06:40:29 <Agro> have a good night!
108 2017-05-26T06:40:32 <sictransitgloria> does anyone know offhand what position sendmany puts the change address in?
109 2017-05-26T06:40:34 <arubi> night :)
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161 2017-05-26T12:29:38 <afk11> anyone know of a public litecoin insight instance?
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205 2017-05-26T16:58:44 <Chris_Stewart_5> Anyone know travis ci well? Having trouble getting bitcoind installed on travis https://travis-ci.org/bitcoin-s/bitcoin-s-rpc-client/jobs/236438192#L186
206 2017-05-26T17:02:31 <arubi> Chris_Stewart_5, maybe call bitcoind with the full path?
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208 2017-05-26T17:22:45 <Chris_Stewart_5> Hmm, looks like they aren't installing the binary for some reason: https://travis-ci.org/bitcoin-s/bitcoin-s-rpc-client/builds/236451398#L205
209 2017-05-26T17:23:21 <Chris_Stewart_5> I have had isues in the past with travis and bitcoind, but I thought they had whitelisted it.. They claim it is mining software that can be used to abuse their infrastructure
210 2017-05-26T17:23:46 <arubi> well it could in theory
211 2017-05-26T17:24:27 <arubi> but so could any other binary :)
212 2017-05-26T17:24:36 <Chris_Stewart_5> If you look at the request history here you'll see it use to outright reject any pull with a bitcoind dependency
213 2017-05-26T17:24:38 <Chris_Stewart_5> https://travis-ci.org/bitcoin-s/bitcoin-s-rpc-client/requests
214 2017-05-26T17:24:54 <arubi> :(
215 2017-05-26T17:25:18 <Chris_Stewart_5> but it is actually creating the build now (which it didn't use to before I emailed them). Some progress I guess...
216 2017-05-26T17:25:29 <arubi> maybe you could download the .deb and extract it?
217 2017-05-26T17:25:42 <Chris_Stewart_5> Yeah, i'll try that next.
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233 2017-05-26T18:28:19 <fpgaminer> Is there a reason TxOut.value is listed as an int64_t in the documentation (https://bitcoin.org/en/developer-reference#txout)? Shouldn't it be uint64_t?
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239 2017-05-26T18:42:10 <Chris_Stewart_5> fpgaminer: It is an int64_t in the codebase https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/src/amount.h#L12
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246 2017-05-26T19:05:19 <fpgaminer> Chris_Stewart_5: Weird. I assume a negative value is never valid, so I wonder why it's int64 in the code?
247 2017-05-26T19:14:09 <Chris_Stewart_5> Good question, there are some test cases that use -1 satoshis
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250 2017-05-26T19:20:14 <Chris_Stewart_5> For building crediting transactions for the script_tests.json files
251 2017-05-26T19:22:46 <fpgaminer> hmmm, okay. I guess it makes sense if parts of the code end up using negative values. Thanks for the info Chris_Stewart_5!
252 2017-05-26T19:23:11 <Chris_Stewart_5> fpgaminer: I'm not sure if I am convinced -- couldn't it be changed to a uint32_t without a hard fork?
253 2017-05-26T19:24:04 <Chris_Stewart_5> I would imagine there is some consensus rule in validation.cpp that states all outputs must have value > 0
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260 2017-05-26T19:46:22 <fpgaminer> Chris_Stewart_5: Well, it at least needs to be 64-bit
261 2017-05-26T19:49:49 <Chris_Stewart_5> fpgaminer: You wouldn't need the full 64 bits as half of int64_t is negative numbers
262 2017-05-26T19:52:20 <jonasschnelli> coin values in general can be minus and I think it's just consistency (maybe historical) to use int64_t in TxOut/value
263 2017-05-26T19:52:30 <jonasschnelli> can be *negative
264 2017-05-26T19:53:53 <jonasschnelli> And int64_t is sufficient for ~21M-e8
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270 2017-05-26T21:20:24 <fpgaminer> jonasschnelli: Yeah, int64_t is definitely more "convenient" and has many orders of magnitude more space than needed to accommodate. I guess I was just wondering if there was a more technically interesting reason for int64_t versus uint64_t :P
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