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9 2017-06-03T00:37:07 <spunky> Is this an appropriate place to ask high level questions about LN?
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73 2017-06-03T07:10:24 <jonasschnelli> spunky: use #lightning-dev?
74 2017-06-03T07:19:04 <Michail1> no such channel.
75 2017-06-03T07:19:20 <Michail1> Well, one person in it. :p
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77 2017-06-03T07:50:15 <jonasschnelli> Oh.. I though it exists...
78 2017-06-03T07:50:40 <jonasschnelli> MOVE ONLY
79 2017-06-03T07:50:44 <jonasschnelli> (oops): https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/lightning-dev/2015-July/000046.html
80 2017-06-03T07:54:36 <arubi> it does exist, I'm on there now
81 2017-06-03T07:54:59 <arubi> Channel #lightning-dev modes: +t
82 2017-06-03T07:55:44 <arubi> also pretty funny, Channel #lightning-dev created on Sun Oct 24 14:07:53 2004
83 2017-06-03T07:56:33 <arubi> there's also #lnd
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119 2017-06-03T15:17:40 <petrkr> yo
120 2017-06-03T15:17:57 <petrkr> something happend on blockchain ? AcceptBlockHeader: block 000000000000000001783dc97a74d75da7f21ebe07d896bb7b43d9b9971eecf0 is marked invalid
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123 2017-06-03T15:27:01 <arubi> petrkr, try `bitcoin-cli reconsiderblock 000000000000000001783dc97a74d75da7f21ebe07d896bb7b43d9b9971eecf0` ?
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125 2017-06-03T15:31:27 <petrkr> 2017-06-03 15:30:47 ERROR: ConnectTip(): ConnectBlock 000000000000000001783dc97a74d75da7f21ebe07d896bb7b43d9b9971eecf0 failed
126 2017-06-03T15:31:28 <petrkr> 2017-06-03 15:30:47 InvalidChainFound: invalid block=000000000000000001783dc97a74d75da7f21ebe07d896bb7b43d9b9971eecf0 height=469509 log2_work=86.534155 date=2017-06-03 07:50:47
127 2017-06-03T15:31:28 <petrkr> 2017-06-03 15:30:47 InvalidChainFound: current best=00000000000000000036a5c8eab437a786dcaa26e2ee038882e4deddec5e957d height=469508 log2_work=86.534122 date=2017-06-03 07:50:30
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129 2017-06-03T15:32:28 <petrkr> https://blockchain.info/block/00000000000000000036a5c8eab437a786dcaa26e2ee038882e4deddec5e957d
130 2017-06-03T15:32:34 <petrkr> https://blockchain.info/block/000000000000000001783dc97a74d75da7f21ebe07d896bb7b43d9b9971eecf0
131 2017-06-03T15:32:44 <petrkr> in blockchain info it says it is right block
132 2017-06-03T15:32:50 <arubi> I know they are
133 2017-06-03T15:33:13 <petrkr> but by DB think it is not... solution like re-index all blockchain I do not wanna do right now
134 2017-06-03T15:33:14 <arubi> I'd try running memtest and hard drive SMART test. if both pass with no errors, maybe worth to open an issue on github and attach debug.log
135 2017-06-03T15:33:42 <arubi> which version are you running by the way?
136 2017-06-03T15:34:30 <petrkr> that "server" is right now 120km from me, can not run anything, but yes, that could be, because old motherboard die so I replaced other with lower RAM and kernel sometims kills random processes, so it could mess DB -- that mean, is there any chance to recover some older DB?
137 2017-06-03T15:34:47 <petrkr> I run now 14.1, first what I thought was update to latest version
138 2017-06-03T15:34:56 <petrkr> before I ran 14.0
139 2017-06-03T15:35:43 <arubi> it's latest, yes. I'm not sure that even if bitcoind is killed, that the DB should fail
140 2017-06-03T15:36:00 <petrkr> sometimes fail sometimes do reorg
141 2017-06-03T15:36:29 <arubi> so really hard to tell if something is recoverable or not. probably best to back up the wallet now again if you didn't before
142 2017-06-03T15:36:42 <petrkr> but now I check dmesg, and no bitcoind was killed
143 2017-06-03T15:36:58 <petrkr> wallet is fine, just DB seems to be broken
144 2017-06-03T15:37:23 <arubi> my suggestion is hardware tests. these failures don't just happen with the software
145 2017-06-03T15:37:24 <petrkr> and wallet is backuped and already imported to other PC, so that I am not afraid of
146 2017-06-03T15:37:31 <arubi> good!
147 2017-06-03T15:37:55 <petrkr> if you know about some cheap good server (tower style) i would buy
148 2017-06-03T15:38:02 <petrkr> this I have just backup and seems not good
149 2017-06-03T15:38:53 <petrkr> I just wonder if that error from bittcoin is not some known one, so if not, maybe HW problem, thx
150 2017-06-03T15:39:13 <arubi> np. I used Contabo for a while. they were pretty good
151 2017-06-03T15:40:06 <petrkr> I need HW one, because I have connected some sensors to it like thermometer and so
152 2017-06-03T15:40:46 <petrkr> and also still space in cloud is so expensive (per month) so it is more cheaper buy 2x2TB drive and do in raid-1 at home for electrics
153 2017-06-03T15:40:48 <arubi> I rented a hardware unit from them, but really didn't ask about arriving on location :)
154 2017-06-03T15:40:59 <arubi> oh yes, now I have everything at home
155 2017-06-03T15:41:25 <arubi> I just use whatever. my needs aren't very demanding
156 2017-06-03T15:42:01 <petrkr> my request is just run bitcoin+electrum fuill node, that is so RAM consuming, and seems 2GB is not much now
157 2017-06-03T15:42:33 <petrkr> before I had 3.5G that was fine, but that motherboard died (capacitors get high and random freezes occurred)
158 2017-06-03T15:42:40 <arubi> maybe look at electrumx for electrum server. I read that it's more efficient
159 2017-06-03T15:42:44 <petrkr> I use that
160 2017-06-03T15:42:49 <arubi> oh okay
161 2017-06-03T15:43:16 <petrkr> but now bitcoin node freezed at sync
162 2017-06-03T15:43:30 <arubi> ouch
163 2017-06-03T15:43:32 <petrkr> in that block which can not verify
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175 2017-06-03T17:19:06 <ProfMac> What is the last version of the standard client that included code to mine the genesis block?
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177 2017-06-03T17:43:54 <arubi> was that ever a feature? anyway, you just need to set prevblock as 0x000.. . everything else but the merkle root is up to you
178 2017-06-03T17:46:25 <arubi> there's no reason to mine the genesis block really.. it's accepted as valid as a matter of fact. blocks can't normally be orphan and still be valid :) validating the pow for the genesis block has the same effect as mining it with a predetermined nonce
179 2017-06-03T17:47:21 <arubi> rather, be orphan /and/ part of the chain at the same time. genesis' prevblock doesn't exist
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233 2017-06-03T23:59:51 <psz> hey guys, I found this thread on bitcoin-dev: https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2016-August/012954.html, any further progress made?