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132 2017-06-09T13:02:25  <kekcoin> Hi, I created an address in `M/44/0/0/0/1`, using bitcoin-ruby, using this public key `xpub661MyMwAqRbcEuoAHNJCfb1hkyJgSekW1TtGfMzFv2dLdLb2ArMoajUYKvNVhJ1KGP9phqP856ephUPsVX9AutKQ3pN8wPWQvKqhwi4YeuT`. There’s already 4 confirmations, but I just can’t find it on electrum or in the blockchain (https://blockchain.info/xpub/xpub661MyMwAqRbcEuoAHNJCfb1hkyJgSekW1TtGfMzFv2dLdLb2ArMoajUYKvNVhJ1KGP9phqP856ephUPsVX9AutKQ3pN8wPWQvKqhwi4
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141 2017-06-09T13:34:39  <arubi> kekcoin, did you manually set up this path?
142 2017-06-09T13:34:59  <arubi> bip44 has hardened derivation up to the accounts level, then it becomes non hardened
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145 2017-06-09T13:36:56  <arubi> I mean, I can the 1GwL5tatgxetFZCd7Dkivczzp5seXSZj5E address from that path, but it's not standard bip44
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147 2017-06-09T13:39:39  <arubi> you'd normally use m/44'/0'/0'/0'/0/1 and output the xpub at the last hardened 0', that way the watcher can generate all external and internal addresses for that account
148 2017-06-09T13:41:15  <kekcoin> arubi: Yes, I setup it this way. I used the non-hardened version because I had to import the private key to the server
149 2017-06-09T13:41:38  <arubi> not sure if I understand your reasoning
150 2017-06-09T13:41:56  <arubi> why not use the xpub at the last hardened 0' and be bip44 compatible?
151 2017-06-09T13:41:58  <kekcoin> Then I prefered to use the xpub for increased security
152 2017-06-09T13:42:16  <arubi> this is absolutely no security if you handle both xpubs and private keys
153 2017-06-09T13:42:53  <arubi> if one of the private keys at the lower levels leak, anyone could find the master xpriv
154 2017-06-09T13:42:54  <kekcoin> arubi: oh, then there's something wrong with the lib I'm using, when I try to use the hardened version, it gives me an error: "MoneyTree::Node::PrivatePublicMismatch: MoneyTree::Node::PrivatePublicMismatch "
155 2017-06-09T13:43:19  <arubi> not very descriptive :)
156 2017-06-09T13:44:12  <arubi> I'm betting you're just trying to do public derivation on a hardened path
157 2017-06-09T13:44:33  <kekcoin> https://pastebin.com/xe0FDXFF
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159 2017-06-09T13:45:52  <arubi> I don't have any ruby stuff installed so I can't run it
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161 2017-06-09T13:47:23  <kekcoin> should I be able to be bip44 compatible using only the xpub?
162 2017-06-09T13:48:04  <arubi> yes.  on the account level
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164 2017-06-09T13:48:57  <arubi> so from your xpub's point of view, it only needs to branch to 0 for external addresses, and 1 for change addresses.  (increment a counter one more branch below)
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166 2017-06-09T13:53:13  <kekcoin> weird, it'll always give me this error "MoneyTree::Node::PrivatePublicMismatch" when I try to use the hardened version
167 2017-06-09T13:53:38  <arubi> are you trying to do hard derivation with an xpub?
168 2017-06-09T13:53:44  <kekcoin> yes
169 2017-06-09T13:53:48  <arubi> you can't
170 2017-06-09T13:53:52  <arubi> you also don't need to
171 2017-06-09T13:54:16  <kekcoin> I see
172 2017-06-09T13:54:38  <arubi> m/44'/0'/0'/0'/0/1  <-  output the xpub at the third 0' from the left of the 44'
173 2017-06-09T13:55:04  <arubi> with that xpub you can branch to either /0 or /1 for payments\change addresses
174 2017-06-09T13:55:39  <arubi> so .../0/1..n are for payments and ../1/1..n are for change
175 2017-06-09T13:55:44  <kekcoin> the problem now is that I can't list this specific transaction on my electrum watch-only wallet
176 2017-06-09T13:55:59  <arubi> yea, because electrum uses bip44 :)
177 2017-06-09T13:56:52  <arubi> s/from the/to the ^
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179 2017-06-09T13:58:44  <kekcoin> then I'm gonna have to use bip32
180 2017-06-09T13:59:11  <arubi> bip32 is the bip for HD.  you are using bip32
181 2017-06-09T13:59:23  <arubi> bip44 is a pathing bip, for using with bip32 HD
182 2017-06-09T13:59:45  <kekcoin> sorry, I did not express myself well
183 2017-06-09T13:59:55  <kekcoin> exactly
184 2017-06-09T14:00:39  <arubi> so yea, you can use just bare bip32, but bip44 helps you manage your payments \ change addresses so they're not together on the same path
185 2017-06-09T14:01:27  <arubi> plus it's supported by multiply wallets as watchonly..  from your POV, just use the last hardened bip44 path for an xpub, and branch from there
186 2017-06-09T14:02:58  <kekcoin> should I change my xpub in the script for an xpriv in order to use bip44?
187 2017-06-09T14:03:12  <arubi> not really no
188 2017-06-09T14:03:20  <arubi> do you have the master xpriv key?
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190 2017-06-09T14:03:51  <arubi> the one at m/
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192 2017-06-09T14:06:15  <kekcoin> arubi: nope
193 2017-06-09T14:07:12  <arubi> do you have any of the private keys..?
194 2017-06-09T14:07:27  <kekcoin> yes, m/0/0
195 2017-06-09T14:08:44  <arubi> alright, then you can go back to m and get the xpriv
196 2017-06-09T14:09:16  <arubi> I'm just asking so you can get your money back from that address.  this current key is not usable anymore
197 2017-06-09T14:10:36  <arubi> I don't know of any tools that can do that for you.  I can do it if you trust me not to steal your 0.0001 :)
198 2017-06-09T14:12:42  <kekcoin> I could give it to you if help me setup this gateway, if you don't mind
199 2017-06-09T14:12:59  <arubi> iyou mean pay me a dollar for dev work..?
200 2017-06-09T14:13:07  <arubi> $3 rather :)
201 2017-06-09T14:13:11  <kekcoin> In fact, just take some doubts from me haha
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203 2017-06-09T14:14:57  <arubi> anyway, pass.  I have my own projects too :)
204 2017-06-09T14:16:52  <kekcoin> Thanks a lot for you time mate, I wish I could pay you that btc as a thank you
205 2017-06-09T14:17:36  <arubi> it's cool.  my advise is not to do anything live until you have it working on testnet
206 2017-06-09T14:20:35  <kekcoin> sounds better ;)
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216 2017-06-09T15:04:51  <kekcoin> solved! I just had to pick the xpub at the account level, that is m/44/0/0 -> https://blockchain.info/xpub/xpub6DVjf26AoJYb4CFKKLVyEfxRuZNsYpSdL9aTftukZ5GQrh3G8UJjFKuNkLWjJCryrRxmRRpzaZcKKFJU4eahbweYT8xvMkRZapVKUo2e8S5
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218 2017-06-09T15:05:10  <kekcoin> "account level", hehe
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