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 17 2017-07-30T02:45:38  <Chicago> Mad7Scientist, the most efficient reliable way to build for Windows is to use the Gitian instructions.  https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/v0.14.2/doc/gitian-building.md ( from your question about 12 hours ago )
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 21 2017-07-30T03:57:30  <Mad7Scientist> thanks
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 27 2017-07-30T04:48:42  <molz> i've been using this guide: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/v0.14.2/doc/build-windows.md
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 48 2017-07-30T07:00:12  <eck> achow101: thanks <3
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 88 2017-07-30T16:15:51  <johntosin>  when is PoW change ready?
 89 2017-07-30T16:15:53  <johntosin> or you gonna keep that all private so nobody but blockstream sees it
 90 2017-07-30T16:26:38  <johntosin> did you know that right now BCC is the 4th most valuable coin by market cap in existence?  and it doesnt even exist yet.
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102 2017-07-30T17:39:22  <johntosin> Bitcoin Cash has implemented the necessary protection against replay attacks, meaning TREZOR can support the currency safely.
103 2017-07-30T17:42:51  <arubi> bullshit, it's only implemented for scriptpubkeys with a checksig
104 2017-07-30T17:44:08  <arubi> lots of crap wrong with their bip143 ripoff.  good for us :)
105 2017-07-30T17:45:13  <arubi> funny how segwit is so bad, but no issue with using its sighash method
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110 2017-07-30T18:23:31  <grubles> https://twitter.com/slushcz/status/891599154941759488 <- looks like trezor will support it as BCH
111 2017-07-30T18:24:31  <arubi> they will, but we're at the mercy of when exactly the HF block is mined
112 2017-07-30T18:25:32  <arubi> if p2sh(segwit) transactions are live on the core network, these can be replayed as anyone-can-spend because of their redeemscript
113 2017-07-30T18:25:47  <arubi> not sure if their code requires a hard fork block before segwit is live
114 2017-07-30T18:26:33  <arubi> if it doesn't and they can ride the main chain until it's live and people, even trezor owners, use p2sh(segwit), then redeeming it on the abc chain is just an anyone-can-spend
115 2017-07-30T18:27:52  <arubi> their code tests aren't very easy for me to follow, rules aren't well defined as in proper bips
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117 2017-07-30T18:31:53  <arubi> it /seems/ like a HF block has to be mined after some unix time passes, and then all transactions have to be signed with their fork byte in sighash.  that makes transactions replay protected if the checksig is either in the bare script or the redeem script
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119 2017-07-30T18:33:59  <arubi> so if their rules say that the unix time has to be before segwit is active, then probably everybody should be protected.  if they can change it to be after segwit is live, people could lose their coins on the HF chain
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129 2017-07-30T19:36:42  <waxwing> arubi: i have a vague memory of them requiring the first post-HF block being > 1MB? maybe
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132 2017-07-30T19:46:53  <arubi> yea that's right, but it's not important really. I'm not sure that the HF start time parameter has to be before segwit is active, and that's when the change to sighash is made
133 2017-07-30T19:47:54  <arubi> so it's all okay if it happens before and all transactions paying to segwit scripts are protected, but if it happens after, then payments to segwit scripts will also exist in the abc chain and be spendable once the p2sh redeem script is revealed
134 2017-07-30T19:48:14  <arubi> also bare scripts
135 2017-07-30T19:49:56  <arubi> as soon as the unix time passes, replay protection should be active /and/ a HF block has to be mined where these transactions are allowed.  it all rests on when that time happens
136 2017-07-30T19:51:57  <arubi> their doc says "REQ-2 (configurable activation time)" and "The client shall allow a "activation time" to be configured by the user, with a default value of.." , and there also exists a bitcoind -uahfstarttime option
137 2017-07-30T19:51:57  <arubi> so they can still "decide" to configure it for after segwit
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139 2017-07-30T19:57:02  <arubi> waxwing, we've seen to many bait-and-switch done by some mining pool ops, and abc folks were quoted to something like "the fork will activate if bip148 causes issues on aug 1st".  it's all pretty hazy to me wrt what they're planning on doing
140 2017-07-30T19:58:03  <arubi> these people being very vocal about segwit being insecure etc only adds to this
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142 2017-07-30T20:00:59  <waxwing> yeah
143 2017-07-30T20:01:05  <waxwing> but we have quite a bit of time, no arubi ?
144 2017-07-30T20:01:32  <waxwing> oh sorry didn't read backscroll
145 2017-07-30T20:02:08  <arubi> right, segwit is still away.  if they back out on august 1st, we can start being suspicious I guess
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147 2017-07-30T20:09:26  <joakkinen> Hi. Can someone tell me the url equivalent to 'https://www.bitstamp.net/api/v2/transactions/' in coinbase? I can't find it anywhere. Thanks.
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