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110 2017-08-22T10:12:47 <nazarewk> what is the way to go to retrieve all txids from wallet?
111 2017-08-22T10:12:54 <nazarewk> (so i can separately gettransaction on them)
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155 2017-08-22T11:43:28 <ossifrage> nazarewk, more then what you get from listtransactions?
156 2017-08-22T11:45:00 <ossifrage> I guess listtransactions doesn't include old transactions, only the UTXO components
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159 2017-08-22T11:57:34 <wumpus> listtransactions (at least in bitcoin core) gives you all transactions, new and historical
160 2017-08-22T11:57:44 <wumpus> if you just want the utxo components, use listunspent
161 2017-08-22T12:01:22 <nazarewk> well... listtransactions is extremely slow on large volume
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163 2017-08-22T12:11:36 <ossifrage> listtransactions does not seem to give you historical txns on 0.14.2 just 'active' txns
164 2017-08-22T12:13:44 <ossifrage> I moved all my coins to a new address and all my old mining transactions are not shown on listtransactions
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172 2017-08-22T13:01:55 <wumpus> possibly there's a bug then, I don't know
173 2017-08-22T13:02:42 <wumpus> depends on what steps exactly you followed, did you import any keys into the wallet?
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181 2017-08-22T14:24:24 <ossifrage> What was the reasoning behind limiting the difficulty increase to 4x?
182 2017-08-22T14:27:17 <cdecker> ossifrage, foot-gunning?
183 2017-08-22T14:28:58 <ossifrage> cdecker, yes I would rather not shot myself in the foot. I would imagine people thinking, "a 4x increase that will never happen..."
184 2017-08-22T14:32:37 <esotericnonsense> in the pre-asic days it could avoid an attack whereby someone turns a shitton of machines on for one diff adjustment period and ramps difficulty by a factor of 100 or something silly
185 2017-08-22T14:33:08 <esotericnonsense> (it would be far more costly for them to achieve a similar ramp with the 4x rule as they'd have to mine for multiple periods with diff increasing each time)
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187 2017-08-22T14:35:03 <ossifrage> esotericnonsense, ah yes, I remember that happening with some of the early bitcoin-clone-alts
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235 2017-08-22T18:41:31 <cluelessperson> Hey guys, I'm reading the documentation for bitcoin private keys, and it describes that most keys are 256, and valid between 0x1 to 0xFFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFE BAAE DCE6 AF48 A03B BFD2 5E8C D036 4140
236 2017-08-22T18:41:58 <arubi> yep
237 2017-08-22T18:42:10 <arubi> well, what do you mean by most are 256?
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239 2017-08-22T18:42:48 <cluelessperson> bits, but then it says
240 2017-08-22T18:42:53 <cluelessperson> Newer wallets may use BIP 32 seeds for their private keys, which can be as long as 512 bits.
241 2017-08-22T18:43:15 <arubi> right, you usually use bip39 to derive a bip32 seed
242 2017-08-22T18:43:16 <cluelessperson> is that meaing you can use 512 bit bitcoin private keys? or simply that bip32 may generate bitcoin keys (256 bit) FROM those BIP32 massive keys?
243 2017-08-22T18:43:28 <arubi> so that output is 64 bytes for the seed
244 2017-08-22T18:43:47 <arubi> core uses 32 bytes as the bip32 seed. (actually it uses a valid private key)
245 2017-08-22T18:44:14 <arubi> ah no, those 64 bytes are hashed then you get 32 bytes private key and 32 bytes chain code
246 2017-08-22T18:44:19 <cluelessperson> arubi: That doesn't tell me what this documentation means.
247 2017-08-22T18:44:24 <arubi> private keys are always in that range
248 2017-08-22T18:44:29 <cluelessperson> Ah.
249 2017-08-22T18:44:55 <arubi> bip32 keys are extended private or public keys
250 2017-08-22T18:45:00 <cluelessperson> So, I think it means, "Master Keys" may be larger, as they wind up generating/deriving/hashing to validly ranged bitcoin private keys.
251 2017-08-22T18:45:07 <arubi> so both the private \ public bytes /and/ a 32 byte chain code
252 2017-08-22T18:45:38 <cluelessperson> arubi: What do you mean by chain code?
253 2017-08-22T18:45:53 <arubi> it's just another value used to derive the next level and index
254 2017-08-22T18:46:09 <arubi> (in the bip32 path)
255 2017-08-22T18:46:30 <arubi> cluelessperson, disregard bip32 and secp256k1 with its private key range
256 2017-08-22T18:46:35 <arubi> they're unrelated
257 2017-08-22T18:47:24 <arubi> these 512 bits seeds aren't private keys, just some output usually from kdf function of bip39
258 2017-08-22T18:47:28 <arubi> s/function//
259 2017-08-22T18:47:46 <cluelessperson> arubi: got it, the technical writing on the bitcoin wiki is just confusing to bring it up
260 2017-08-22T18:48:12 <arubi> yea seems so
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262 2017-08-22T18:54:37 <meshcollider> arubi: the 512 bit output from the seed in BIP32 is split into two 256 bit halves, one of which is the private key and the other is the chain code
263 2017-08-22T18:55:08 <arubi> right, hmac-sha512'ed and split left and right
264 2017-08-22T18:55:24 <meshcollider> Yep
265 2017-08-22T18:55:59 <arubi> https://github.com/fivepiece/btc-bash-ng/blob/master/bitcoin/bips/bip32.sh :)
266 2017-08-22T19:01:07 <cluelessperson> what is chain code
267 2017-08-22T19:03:47 <meshcollider> It's just a 256 bit value used to generate children
268 2017-08-22T19:03:58 <meshcollider> It's all in BIP 32
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270 2017-08-22T19:08:02 <arubi> yep that's pretty much it. chain code is one input to a hash function used to generate the next level's chain code
271 2017-08-22T19:09:50 <arubi> well and key, but bip32 is better at explaining that part
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302 2017-08-22T21:24:12 <kanzure> hmm i don't like this, https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/robots.txt i would prefer it to have: Allow: /pipermail/* instead of: Allow: /pipermail/
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305 2017-08-22T21:58:37 <cluelessperson> Could someone help me understand what this means?
306 2017-08-22T21:58:39 <cluelessperson> https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Wallet_import_format
307 2017-08-22T21:58:44 <cluelessperson> https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/List_of_address_prefixes
308 2017-08-22T21:59:04 <cluelessperson> Specifically, when I decode the base58 WIF, I get bytes
309 2017-08-22T21:59:40 <cluelessperson> Is there a trick to determining, compressed(true/false),net from the WIF ? or should I be trying to work out some logic table myself?
310 2017-08-22T22:00:01 <cluelessperson> " Drop the first byte (it should be 0x80)" yeah, 0x80 is mainnet
311 2017-08-22T22:00:24 <cluelessperson> "If the private key corresponded to a compressed public key, also drop the last byte (it should be 0x01). If it corresponded to a compressed public key, the WIF string will have started with K or L instead of 5 (or c instead of 9 on testnet)"
312 2017-08-22T22:00:29 <cluelessperson> Jesus
313 2017-08-22T22:00:47 <cluelessperson> so, the last byte will only be 0x01 if it's compressed?
314 2017-08-22T22:01:00 <cluelessperson> or should I rely on the leading symbol to determine compression?
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340 2017-08-22T23:14:40 <ginseng> HD wallets were introduced in core v.0.13.0. Were pre-0.13.0 wallets deterministic in any way or were they just 100 randomly generated keys?
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343 2017-08-22T23:24:31 <esotericnonsense> ginseng: latter
344 2017-08-22T23:24:48 <esotericnonsense> i think there was a flag to set the size, you could pregenerate more if you wanted
345 2017-08-22T23:25:26 <Emcy> is it interesting that my .15rc node is uploading a lot less data than 14.2 did
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347 2017-08-22T23:25:33 <Emcy> like less than half
348 2017-08-22T23:26:19 <Emcy> it was 37gb per day with 14.2, now its 16gb yesterday and 17gb today
349 2017-08-22T23:26:42 <Emcy> banning btc1 wouldnt have that much effect
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352 2017-08-22T23:27:20 <Emcy> would it? Unless btc1 was attacking satoshi nodes to waste bandwidth? idk
353 2017-08-22T23:33:30 <ginseng> esotericnonsense: ty
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